Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention

Newly disclosed emails show that Libya’s plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO’s intervention.

Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi, murdered by Western-backed rebels on October 20, 2011, planned to create a gold-backed African currency to compete with the dollar and euro. (Photo: Jesse B. Awalt/US Navy)
Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi, murdered by Western-backed rebels on October 20, 2011, planned to create a gold-backed African currency to compete with the dollar and euro. (Photo: Jesse B. Awalt/US Navy)

The New Year’s Eve release of over 3,000 new Hillary Clinton emails from the State Department has CNN abuzz over gossipy text messages, the “who gets to ride with Hillary” selection process set up by her staff, and how a “cute” Hillary photo fared on Facebook.

But historians of the 2011 NATO war in Libya will be sure to notice a few of the truly explosive confirmations contained in the new emails: admissions of rebel war crimes, special ops trainers inside Libya from nearly the start of protests, Al Qaeda embedded in the U.S. backed opposition, Western nations jockeying for access to Libyan oil, the nefarious origins of the absurd Viagra mass rape claim, and concern over Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves threatening European currency.

Hillary’s Death Squads

A March 27, 2011, intelligence brief [archived here] on Libya, sent by long time close adviser to the Clintons and Hillary’s unofficial intelligence gatherer, Sidney Blumenthal, contains clear evidence of war crimes on the  part of NATO-backed rebels. Citing a rebel commander source “speaking in strict confidence” Blumenthal reports to Hillary [emphasis mine]:

Under attack from allied Air and Naval forces, the Libyan Army troops have begun to desert to the rebel side in increasing numbers. The rebels are making an effort to greet these troops as fellow Libyans, in an effort to encourage additional defections.

(Source Comment: Speaking in strict confidence, one rebel commander stated that his troops continue to summarily execute all foreign mercenaries captured in the fighting…).

While the illegality of extra-judicial killings is easy to recognize (groups engaged in such are conventionally termed “death squads”), the sinister reality behind the “foreign mercenaries” reference might not be as immediately evident to most.

While over the decades Gaddafi was known to make use of European and other international security and infrastructural contractors, there is no evidence to suggest that these were targeted by the Libyan rebels.

There is, however, ample documentation by journalists, academics, and human rights groups demonstrating that black Libyan civilians and sub-Saharan contract workers, a population favored by Gaddafi in his pro-African Union policies, were targets of “racial cleansing” by rebels who saw black Libyans as tied closely with the regime.[1]

Black Libyans were commonly branded as “foreign mercenaries” by the rebel opposition for their perceived general loyalty to Gaddafi as a community and subjected to torture, executions, and their towns “liberated” by ethnic cleansing. This is demonstrated in the most well-documented example of Tawergha, an entire town of 30,000 black and “dark-skinned” Libyans which vanished by August 2011 after its takeover by NATO-backed NTC Misratan brigades.

These attacks were well-known as late as 2012 and often filmed, as this report from The Telegraph confirms:

After Muammar Gaddafi was killed, hundreds of migrant workers from neighboring states were imprisoned by fighters allied to the new interim authorities. They accuse the black Africans of having been mercenaries for the late ruler. Thousands of sub-Saharan Africans have been rounded up since Gaddafi fell in August.

It appears that Clinton was getting personally briefed on the battlefield crimes of her beloved anti-Gaddafi fighters long before some of the worst of these genocidal crimes took place.

Al-Qaeda and Western Special Forces Inside Libya

The same intelligence email from Sydney Blumenthal also confirms what has become a well-known theme of Western supported insurgencies in the Middle East: the contradiction of special forces training militias that are simultaneously suspected of links to Al Qaeda.

Blumenthal relates that “an extremely sensitive source” confirmed that British, French, and Egyptian special operations units were training Libyan militants along the Egyptian-Libyan border, as well as in Benghazi suburbs.

While analysts have long speculated as to the “when and where” of Western ground troop presence in the Libyan War, this email serves as definitive proof that special forces were on the ground only within a month of the earliest protests which broke out in the middle to end of February 2011 in Benghazi.

By March 27 of what was commonly assumed a simple “popular uprising” external special operatives were already “overseeing the transfer of weapons and supplies to the rebels” including “a seemingly endless supply of AK47 assault rifles and ammunition.”

Yet only a few paragraphs after this admission, caution is voiced about the very militias these Western special forces were training because of concern that, “radical/terrorist groups such as the Libyan Fighting Groups and Al Qa’ida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) are infiltrating the NLC and its military command.”

The Threat of Libya’s Oil and Gold to French Interests

Though the French-proposed U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 claimed the no-fly zone implemented over Libya was to protect civilians, an April 2011 email [archived here] sent to Hillary with the subject line “France’s client and Qaddafi’s gold” tells of less noble ambitions.

The email identifies French President Nicholas Sarkozy as leading the attack on Libya with five specific purposes in mind: to obtain Libyan oil, ensure French influence in the region, increase Sarkozy’s reputation domestically, assert French military power, and to prevent Gaddafi’s influence in what is considered “Francophone Africa.”

Most astounding is the lengthy section delineating the huge threat that Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves, estimated at “143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver,” posed to the French franc (CFA) circulating as a prime African currency. In place of the noble sounding “Responsibility to Protect” (R2P) doctrine fed to the public, there is this “confidential” explanation of what was really driving the war [emphasis mine]:

This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French franc (CFA).

(Source Comment: According to knowledgeable individuals this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than $7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began, and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozy’s decision to commit France to the attack on Libya.)

Though this internal email aims to summarize the motivating factors driving France’s (and by implication NATO’s) intervention in Libya, it is interesting to note that saving civilian lives is conspicuously absent from the briefing.

Instead, the great fear reported is that Libya might lead North Africa into a high degree of economic independence with a new pan-African currency.

French intelligence “discovered” a Libyan initiative to freely compete with European currency through a local alternative, and this had to be subverted through military aggression.

The Ease of Floating Crude Propaganda

Early in the Libyan conflict Secretary of State Clinton formally accused Gaddafi and his army of using mass rape as a tool of war. Though numerous international organizations, like Amnesty International, quickly debunked these claims, the charges were uncritically echoed by Western politicians and major media.

It seemed no matter how bizarre the conspiracy theory, as long as it painted Gaddafi and his supporters as monsters, and so long as it served the cause of prolonged military action in Libya, it was deemed credible by network news.

Two foremost examples are referenced in the latest batch of emails: the sensational claim that Gaddafi issued Viagra to his troops for mass rape, and the claim that bodies were “staged” by the Libyan government at NATO bombing sites to give the appearance of the Western coalition bombing civilians.

In a late March 2011 email, Blumenthal confesses to Hillary that,

I communicated more than a week ago on this story—Qaddafi placing bodies to create PR stunts about supposed civilian casualties as a result of Allied bombing—though underlining it was a rumor. But now, as you know, Robert gates gives credence to it. (See story below.)

Sources now say, again rumor (that is, this information comes from the rebel side and is unconfirmed independently by Western intelligence), that Qaddafi has adopted a rape policy and has even distributed Viagra to troops. The incident at the Tripoli press conference involving a woman claiming to be raped is likely to be part of a much larger outrage. Will seek further confirmation.

Not only did Defense Secretary Robert Gates promote his bizarre “staged bodies” theory on CBS News’ “Face The Nation,” but the even stranger Viagra rape fiction made international headlines as U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice made a formal charge against Libya in front of the UN Security Council.

What this new email confirms is that not only was the State Department aware of the spurious nature of what Blumenthal calls “rumors” originating solely with the rebels, but did nothing to stop false information from rising to top officials who then gave them “credence.”

It appears, furthermore, that the Viagra mass rape hoax likely originated with Sidney Blumenthal himself.


[1] The most comprehensive and well-documented study of the plight of black Libyans is contained in Slouching Towards Sirte: NATO’s War on Libya and Africa (publ. 2012, Baraka Books) by Maximilian Forte, Professor Anthropology and Sociology at Concordia University in Montréal, Québec.

This article was originally published at the Levant Report and has been used here with permission.

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Brad Hoff

Brad Hoff served as a Marine from 2000-2004 at Headquarters Battalion, Quantico. After military service he lived, studied, and traveled throughout Syria off and on from 2004-2010. He is Managing Editor of LevantReport.com and currently teaches in Texas. 

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  • rbdthnfngfnh

    Interesting. Thank you.

  • Sgt. Stedenko

    Vast right wing conspiracy

  • BenjaminGhazi

    The amazing part of all of this is ‘how many times can she commit acts of treason’ against the United States of America before Comey/Lynch INDICT HER!

  • Hai Vuong
  • ramoncramon

    If any of this is true, Hillary should hang.

    • Jamie

      Sarkozy too.

    • cocky Pete

      It’s all true. War criminals par excellénce

      • Areminder

        The Foreign Press covered much of this at the time, but you had to visit their sites and Patriot News Sites to find it.

    • Rome Cruci


    • Ganesh
      • Juan TwoTree

        Thanks Ganesh for the website link!
        This filthy LIEING wasted piece of the female antomy needs to be in a Federal prison, RIGHT NOW! This ‘Boar Hog’ LIAR contines to go on CNN, MSNBC, NBC and lies in every interview. Who’s holding up throwing her in jail for treason and fraud?? Not Trey Gowdy for sure…it is probably that fuking idiot Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) who ignores facts from witnesses, from her testimony to Congress and the thousand of e-mails! She has broken at least a dozen or more Federal Laws.This LIAR b*tch needs to go down HARD and bounce her out of her lieing campaign for President

        Would love to see Trump take on Bernie Sanders!! It would be a blood bath for Sanders!

        • true lies

          I doubt it but there may be enough idiots to vote Trump

          • Cameron Douglas

            Almost all Arabs in the middle east are hoping and praying Trump is elected. They know he is for peace and not a warmonger. He is not part of the US whores/establishment/globalists that have infiltrated our gov’t. The middle east is stunned with wonder over the massive amount of killing of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of troops and civilians. For what? They don’t understand. They can’t believe it can be only for money, gold and oil. They are all hoping and praying.

          • Lisa Gunther

            Do not wish for Donald to be president: he will take us into war again because he is that stupid. He has no understanding of foreign policy, the monetary policy, or any thing else. This is a nightmare for the people of the US.

          • Cameron Douglas

            And you are just a paid globalist/establishment troll. And not a very good one.
            TRUMP 2016 ! ! ! !

          • Vinnie S

            Remember the Hillary campaign pays millions to have her internet trolls , protect her failed polices and denounce Trump.

          • Cameron Douglas

            Yes she does! But there is no way to keep up because most citizens with a brain are finally on to her. A million paid trolls would not be enough. I’m saying
            2016 ! ! ! !

          • John Kneeland

            Vinnie: I think your IQ is drifting somewhere below 80.

          • Dropofclearwqter

            I was thinking the same. Clearly a paid troll.

          • Dropofclearwqter

            Troll Alert!!!!!!!!!!!

          • womanity constancy

            Why would Arabs believe the notorious liar Trumpf wants peace or disfavors war? The brutish carnival barker hates everyone except white people of the 1% class, only white men matter. The Donald flaunts his bankruptcies, corruption and violence from behind the wall of barricaded media and untouchable privilege. How does his rabid anti-Muslim rhetoric please Arab tastes? Actual U.S. peacemakers struggle to be heard, sabotaged by the same warmongers that sponsor Trump and Clintons. Bernie Sanders could help, if anyone can.

          • Cameron Douglas

            You obviously are still listening to MainStream Media monopoly. Get off the poison. Check reality. Even a little research on your part will reveal to you how MSM twists what he says. And why do Arabs believe Trump will bring peace? I don’t know except to say my friend is from Iraq…lost his leg there…and he told me that most of them believe that. And, well, they can see what Hillary had brought to the Middle East…. WAR AND KILLING! That could be the reason. Lol

          • womanity constancy

            MSM *IS* drumpf and h, 24/7 coverage inescapable of both liars with TheDon’T plastered on every screen ceaselessly. It’s that LinkTv on constant default setting that brainwashes me relentlessly with old fogies like Chris Hedges, Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, Ralph Nader, Danny Glover, etc., etc., teaching truth, justice, peace and l.o.v.e. instead of commercial consumer panic. Sorry you disagree, but neither msm-sponsored phony candidate is worth further comment. Good luck.

          • Cameron Douglas

            You don’t know that. I believe you are wrong about Trump. Time will tell. I think you will be eating your word. And many of the people you listed are very biased to liberal view points. To really get the big picture you have to widen listening.

          • John Kneeland

            There’s news reports all over the place contradicting you. And you are stupid enough to believe that anyone is going to fall for your little tale about “my friend who lost a leg says.” What are you, a third grader?

          • Cameron Douglas

            You are ridiculous. You need to first listen to Trump before you spout MainStream Media lies. Get the facts and come back!

          • John Kneeland

            I’ve listened to Trump’s words directly. He is an absolute complete fucking idiot with sociopathic tendencies. And you are a complete fucking idiot who wouldn’t know facts if they smacked you in the face. Trump is now on his way to the biggest rout in a presidential campaign in history. And you will soon have to find something else to troll online about.

          • Caroline Mc Gilloway

            You are STUPID, as all Sanders and Clinton supporters are. I accuse all their supporters of being unAmerican , also socialist communist ideology, never in USA. Wake up womanity

          • John Kneeland

            You are really out there. It is very disturbing when someone holds delusions such as you do.

          • John Kneeland

            You have no idea what Arabs in the Middle east are thinking. You can’t just make up shit. Here’s what they really think, and from a credible source, fool. http://time.com/4140280/donald-trump-muslims-middle-east/

          • Lisa Gunther

            Jebus, we can only hope. He is as dumb as a box of rocks.

        • lolana

          So are you like one of these people who thinks it is OK when Republicans do it, but not Democrats? Why does it even matter? Seriously Trump? The guy who praised the Chinese for shooting protesters at Tienanmen Square?

        • Akin Aina

          This woman Hillary Clinton is heartless, a peaceful country was turned to war zone, the rest is history. She and other conspirators should be charged for war crime, period

          • Cameron Douglas

            Don’t forget….George Bush, Dick Cheney & Donald Rumsfeld too! They did the same to Iraq and Saddam Hussein. Saddam gave in to everything Bush demanded, but Bush was hell bent on going to war in Iraq. In fact Iraq had agreed to give private contracts for everything to NATO/US businesses…health care & health/hospital equipment, pharmaceuticals & many other areas of business….including agreeing to buy 1 million Ford cars a year for 10 years. They had agreed to give almost everything they possibly could to get the false sanctions against Iraq removed. Do a search for “Susan Lindauer CIA whistleblower” if you haven’t heard her side of things yet. MSM has given her story zero coverage.

          • Vinnie S

            Why can’t you liberal assholes ever accept Hillary is a corrupt lying self serving POS without saying well others did it so it’s okay.

          • Cameron Douglas

            First off ..I’m not a liberal or an asshole. And I wasn’t saying “others did it so it’s ok”. I just like to make sure we don’t forget those other assholes! It’s important not to forget what all of them have done. It’s not too late to arrest and prosecute every one of them for war crimes, treason, and God knows plenty more! Try not to read into things. You made yourself look like an asshole by running your mouth off.

          • John Kneeland

            Why can’t under-educated drones like you accept the fact that you haven’t got the slightest idea what you’re talking about? You fantasies do not pass for argument. You’re making a fool of yourself.

          • John Lock

            Silly comment the Bush attack was UN authorized and authorized by Congress.

            There is no Bush did it too here now is there. No Congress and No UN authorization. Hillary lies again.

          • No, the UN did not authorize the US war on Iraq, which was under international law a war of aggression, “the supreme international law”, as defined at Nuremberg.

            Nor can Congress “authorize” the Executive Branch to violate international law.

          • John Kneeland

            The UN reviewed the entire Libyan situation. Read Wikipedia and try to get something resembling even a semblance of an education.

          • Yet it remains true that the UN emphatically did not authorize NATO to engage in a policy of regime change.

            Continued resort to insult on your part will result in you being banned for violating the terms of use of this site.

        • Diana Forsea

          It would be a blood bath for Trump. Trump can’t even handle a debate. He was banned from some media. Trump shows he knows nothing on world issues, when he talks to reporters. Trump has no experience, no record, no agenda, no platform and bad morals. Bernie’s record shows, he works for the people.

          • Cameron Douglas

            That’s funny. Trump is the only one speaking the truth. Listen to the liars if you want. But in the long run you are going to severely regret it if you get your way.

      • Justin C.

        “Page Not Found”. Was it really taken down?

        • Ganesh

          HAAHAHAHA. What scumbags. ‘Freedom of Information Act’ my a$$.

          Fortunately, the WayBackMachine got it. One of the most useful and amazing pages on the Internet.


          • Thank you for the “backlink”

          • Ferit Tuzer

            you can see that this email was written in a non-serious manner, by an unknown person, and those allegations are just his interpretation.

          • Ganesh

            Sounds like a very impartial and serious summary of events to me.

          • Ferit Tuzer

            full of layman speech and simple banal political outlooks. “qaddafi has nearly bottomless financial resources”, referring to people with their first names without prior mention “jabril, jilal and others are impatient”, simply lay adjectives for a philosopher: self-promoter, semi joke figure (Bernard Henri Levy), talking about sweeping rumors (which are false), and doing it with bad grammar: “Qaddafi may be dead, or maybe not”. and then just wild speculations about what qaddafi plans to do with his gold, (which isn’t itself a danger, as a strong currency first needs to have low inflation, which african countries could not achieve), and then proposed motives for france’s intervention, which are only re-iterations of motives that have been thrown all around ever since USA invaded Iraq in 2003. Any guy on the street who has watched the news a bit can tell you the same motives for any military intervention by the western world: oil, influence, internal politics, show of military hardware.

          • Ganesh

            It’s a memo from her close political confidant, directly to her. It’s not written for the Congressional record or something. That doesn’t mean it isn’t serious.

          • Ferit Tuzer

            it could be from a crazy conspiracy theorist for all we know, because it has no real insight, just lay interpretations and unoriginal ideas for france’s motives which have no touch with reality.

          • Ganesh

            Hey, f*cking idiot, it’s by Sidney Blumenthal, a close Hillary Confidant, to Hillary.

          • Ferit Tuzer

            Angry because I don’t buy your crazy talk? How do you know he’s a “close confidant”? How do you know she takes this guy seriously at all? I’m sure she doesn’t because he’s simply crazy, hillary knew the reason for and supported the Nato campaign. You would know too if you weren’t watching Bollywood at the time. Even more stupid is you halfbrains presenting this as the reason for the bombing of Libyan army, whereas it’s only a delusional guy’s blogging, no different than what you guys write here.

          • I’m sure she doesn’t because he’s simply crazy…

            The lengths some people will go to in order to deny information that doesn’t conform to their predetermined beliefs…

          • Ferit Tuzer

            i guess you’re talking about people denying the obvious, stated, world-wide witnessed reasons for the air campaign in Libya. Because there’s no information in this letter. It is simply one man’s idea of what France’s motives are.

          • It’s not just some whacko conspiracy theorist writing, as you seem to have convinced yourself. It’s a journalist and long-time close adviser to Hillary Clinton. It’s not as though it’s that far out that Western powers act out of financial interests when it comes to their foreign policy. Or would you have us believe that they would only wage war on a country with the most benevolent of intentions?

          • Ferit Tuzer

            they did not wage war on libya. secondly, even with the current situation in libya kerry said something must be done. back then it was 10 times worse. but you’re a dumb ignorant sensation seeker so it doesn’t matter for you.

          • they did not wage war on libya.

            Why don’t you return here to Earth from the planet you were living on when the US waged war on Libya and get caught up so we can have a discussion.

          • Moan Humpsky

            why don’t you go take a look at Libya, and see if it got warred?

          • selftorture

            Bush Sr said Iraq was about more than oil. I personably would not believe the person who founded the CIA, who are by far the worlds worst terrorists.

          • Ferit Tuzer

            like denying the scientific fact that vaccines work and are safe? like you do.

          • I’d be more than happy to have a discussion of the facts about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines, if you’d like to set aside your predetermined beliefs about the subject and take that discussion elsewhere. To stay on topic, I reiterate my point about how your statement “I’m sure [Hillary Clinton] doesn’t [take Sydney Blumenthal seriously] because he’s simply crazy” illustrates your willful ignorance of information that doesn’t conform to your predetermined beliefs.

          • Ferit Tuzer

            what is information? him saying i think this is why france bombed them? that’s not information that’s a conspiracy theory that’s divorced from facts.

          • You continue to illustrate my point.

          • Sinan Ferit Tüzer

            “Newly disclosed emails show that Libya’s plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO’s intervention” you are incapable of understanding written word. this is as crazy man’s ramblings about a motive for the air campaign, the letters do not reveal the motive. so if anybody thinks X is the motive for country Y doing something, that “reveals” the motive? what a bunch of idiots you are. oh by the way your whacko web site has blocked me. i guess you idiots like to simmer up craziness among yourselves I should not disturb you.

          • this is as crazy man’s ramblings

            One could say the same thing about your own comment, which would seem clearly to be much more applicable.

          • Tralbry

            Exactly. Ferit’s desperate rambling and denial, was a little amusing at first, but now it’s morphed into something just sad.

          • In any case, 7 bln. near enough to back any currency.

          • Qanni Katifa

            Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine

            The machine that serves this file is down. We’re working on it.

          • Ganesh
      • Anton

        they removed that pdf file, link is broken

      • Ben S

        The link is broken now,. what happened?

      • rollingearthsong

        the documents/info have been removed..

      • Persianized Mongol

        Lol page not found wow

        • Ganesh

          I posted an archive link elsewhere in this thread. If you can’t find it, just copy and paste that URL into archive.org

      • Link’s dead. I suppose it was the e-mail? You have a mirror or picture available?

      • Kim

        Interesting how all this information is now GONE.

      • Ali Mahboub Agha

        page is gone

      • Simon Gunson

        The link you provided has been blocked

    • лидия

      It is true and Hillary is a “credible” candidate to USA prez from Dems. Enjoy.
      On the other hand, as if Obama is not as guilty as her. Just as W Bush is guilty of Iraq criminal aggressive war. Obama did nothing to bring Bush and his cohort to justice, because justice is not for USA prezes or State secs. Kissinger is a “honorable” man too.

      • Francisco Machado

        The Iraq war was a response to Iraq invading Kuwait. The Iraqi forces were driven out of Kuwait and away from the border with destruction of much of their materiel to insure that they would not re-commence the invasion. This part of the U.S. aggression had a specifically target valid purpose, was well executed, succeeded, and stopped once the goal had been achieved. A detente was reached and hostilities suspended based upon agreements with the government of Iraq. Those agreements were violated, there was credible intelligence of the sequestration of weapons, this intelligence believed by all Western powers (and Democrats, Hillary included). The removal of Saddam, perhaps justified, was predictably a mistake since there was no sufficiently powerful stable replacement any better than Saddam to fill the vacuum and the U.S. withdrew, abandoning military gains and letting the whole disaster go to hell – like much of the rest of the Middle east. We also removed, by this action, a counterforce to Iran. They had kept one another entertained, so to speak. After trying to create a similar disaster in Egypt with only temporary success, we did it again in Libya and we’re certainly not exactly guilt free in Syrian events. It is difficult not to see the results of the actions of Obama and the State Department as anything but calculated to sow mayhem throughout North Africa and the Middle East.

        • лидия

          Sure, USA could NEVER commit a crime, maximum a “justified mistake”
          USA had never invaded any state and always (!) punish invaders. USA rulers never lie, so when they told that Saddam had WMD they sure believed in it, and never mind other people who had known better and had told so BEFORE USA aggression. And if USA imperialism is supported by Europe imperialism it is somehow made it better.
          And sure, Hitler had NOT did something bad in purpose, otherwise he would be victorious, but as his deeds turned sour to him it means he had not planned what he did.
          It could be funny to read FM were it not about the millions of murdered by USA imperialism’s crimes and even more hurt, robbed, uprooted and so on.
          A piece of news for FM – the majority of the world population do NOT see USA /Europe imperialism as benign but somehow stumbling – they see it as criminal and aimed to their destruction. And this view is based on hundreds years of bitter experience.

          • Cayman Liu

            Everyone in the world knows what Americans have been always doing. People just don’t say it out loud.

          • лидия

            and when people do say it, capitalist media from which FM clearly took his position of just do not post it, so FM is still unaware of it.

          • лидия

            My web “admirer” is very fond of polls. His (?) favorite piece is a poll of Libyans supporting of their own country bombed by NATO – which, of course, means that NATO was right to bomb Libya – he still claims it.

            And my web “admirer” is still could not get that I am NOT “replying” to him, I just comment his imperialist propaganda.

          • Timm

            >My web “admirer” is very fond of polls.

            Fond of evidence, as opposed to you.

            >His (?) favorite piece is a poll of Libyans supporting of their own country bombed by NATO – which, of course, means that NATO was right to bomb Libya – he still claims it.

            So, the evidence shows what the evidence shows, if you have evidence that libyans would have been happier to have gaddafi bombing them then please present it.

            >And my web “admirer” is still could not get that I am NOT “replying” to him, I just comment his imperialist propaganda.

            Its because you know you cant win a factual argument, so you have to talk around them.

          • лидия

            Yeah, polls. Like a new one in which Saudi citizens (70%) was happy with their state freedoms.

          • Timm

            Hi lidia,

            You accidentally replied to yourself instead of me.

            What poll is this.

            Also your argument relies on the tactics that a teenager would use, this is wrong, therefore this other thing is wrong too.

            You claim to have been alive during the time of the soviet union so you obviously cant be a teenager, instead you must just be quite dim.

            Now please exit this thread in an orderly fashion.

          • лидия

            T my web “admirer” still could not get that I am NOT “replying” to him(!) – I do not usually reply or talk to Zionist-imperialist parrots. I simply comment on their propaganda to let others know what their lies are.
            Funny how T still tries LOL

          • Timm

            Aw shucks, youre breaking my heart lidia.

            But youve kind of ruined this “not replying thing”, by basically “replying” to yourself when i am not around because you know you cant go toe to toe with me.

            Your arguments are just too weak for you arent a very bright person.

            Because of this you try to get in a last say hoping that some people will see this as a sign of victory, unfortunately for you most people arent as stupid as you are.

            They see that your arguments are without merit and that your afraid to reply directly to me.

            Now, move along with your tail between your legs lid, thats a good individual.

          • лидия

            T stalks me all over the net, trying in wain to get my repay to his(?) parroting of imperialist/Zionist propaganda and also calling me names. It sure shows that he is not at all interested in me taking him seriously enough to answer. LOL

          • Timm

            And youve quite clearly shown how ive gotten to you with your feeble attempts to portray it as otherwise.

            If one didnt care one wouldnt say anything, but we see this isnt the case with you.

            Getting to you isnt a goal though, or someone to be proud. But it has been shown nonetheless.

            > LOL

            Like a teenager.

          • лидия

            T sure has a mania granidousa if he(?) imagines that I have never met such Zionist/imperialist parrots. As a matter of fact, I have refutations ready to their propaganda exactly because of a long experience.
            But I must admit, this one is really something – he is stalking me all over the web, even on Russian websites. Not that it makes any difference to me – I see all of his ilk as the same and very predictable.

          • Timm

            >I have refutations ready to their propaganda exactly because of a long experience.

            People reading these threads will no doubt wonder why you are so shy about showing these refutations….

            > I see all of his ilk as the same and very predictable.

            Except for the fact that you clearly dont know “my ilk”, as shown by you calling me an imperialist and Zionist.

            Now shoo along lidia.

          • Timm

            > I have refutations ready to their propaganda

            Youre very shy about showing them.

            So far far we havent seen anything but bold claims.

          • Timm

            Also commenting directly to my comment but replying to yourself on wsws, what an imbecile you are.

            It must tear you up that most people on this planet see the soviet union as a pathetic failure.

          • Timm

            Also commenting directly to my comment but replying to yourself on wsws, what an imbecile you are.

            It must tear you up that most people on this planet see the soviet union as a pathetic failure.

          • SuperTech86

            Everyone in the world except most American’s because most of the countries derives almost 100% of their information on U.S foreign policy from mainstream media outlets. Which means in reality they know next to nothing about everything.

          • Francisco Machado

            Thanks for the unexpected support! I wish I could disagree about the decline of U.S. world prestige, particularly in the Middle east where it could have had constructive effects. The Progressives have certainly mucked things up, and George Bush – while without the dedicated destructive fanaticism of Obama – was certainly and unmistakably a Progressive. Names are sometimes far from descriptive of what is named – perhaps a better name for that political philosophy should be “the Destructives.” While you and I may favorably view the diminishing probability of the continuation of these policies in a Hillary C. presidency, it’s hard to visualize the difficulties confronting the next President reversing the last dozen years of problems.

          • лидия

            FM could not read? I am speaking about the mass-murder and other crimes and FM worries about “decline of U.S. world prestige”.

            Of course, I am NOT “favorably view the diminishing probability of the continuation of these policies in a Hillary C. presidency”. Killary committed enough crimes serving USA imperialism already and sure would continue and commit even more if made a USA prez by USA ruling class, as usual. Of course, I have no illusions about possible alternative ie Sanders.

            But where I write “crimes” FM read “problems” – nice word and no one is to blame, esp USA imperialist rulers.

          • Timm

            >A piece of news for FM – the majority of the world population do NOT see USA /Europe imperialism as benign but somehow stumbling – they see it as criminal and aimed to their destruction.

            Heres some polling evidence on the us:


            Here is russias in comparison:



            Quick lidia, form a counter response and quickly reply it to yourself!

          • corners

            you need to learn to read better. Francisco wasnt saying usa is awesome. He was saying we got our fingers in places we shouldnt, and made thigns messier than theyw ere.

        • womanity constancy

          There was not credible intelligence. Bushies edited the CIA statement, cutting the denial by Oak Ridge nuclear analysts that the “tubes” had WMD capability. The report was quickly and entirely suppressed, though the news did come out enough to activate millions of protesters.

          • Francisco Machado

            Decisions, even our own personal ones, are based not upon truth but upon what we believe. If you awaken at an early hour of the morning with the certainty you’ve left the stove on, you get up and go downstairs to the kitchen. I have telephoned an old friend whom I mistakenly believed to be alive. The world powers acted upon the best and most reliable information they had. Even if conflicting information existed, and even if your husband said “go back to sleep. You wouldn’t have left the stove on” you will still probably go to check it. A police officer recently shot someone who, when confronted, drew an extremely realistic pistol. He was not indicted because, under the circumstances and given what information he did have, he made a reasonable decision. Just as an illustration – there are “facts” about the Iraq WMDs, including the finding of the manufacturing facility and more recent discoveries of secreted weapons, but that is “received truth” and may all be lies. Remember: The Democrat Senate voted in Obamacare – based upon “truths” that Gruber later revealed to be lies. We are now suffering from the results.

          • womanity constancy

            Illogical and irrelevant: Fact is, the truth with absolutely the most accurately informed data on Earth was officially provided and deliberately buried. “Yes, honey, I checked the stove and it was NOT on fire.” Neocons and their anti-altruistic greed and violence are doomed, so please forget that nightmare dogma. As for the requisite swipe at Obamacare, universal, single-payer healthcare is the most proven system to deal with evolving medical concerns. Cheers.

          • Francisco Machado

            But you “checked it and it was not on fire.” You checked it. Why? to determine that it was not on fire. Saddam would not let the inspectors in to check that he was not violating the terms of the ceasefire. Even Hillary Clinton believed Saddam had WMDs. Spoken publicly in a broadcast speech. Reported in mass media. Or was that just another lie motivated by her “anti-altruistic greed and violence?”

          • womanity13

            Of course it was a lie, a monstrous fraud. Weapons inspectors found zero evidence of nukes in Iraq. The Bush-Cheney Crusaders kicked out the authoritative expert Hans Blix immediately before murdering the populace with a heinous bombardment reminiscent of Dresden.

            Did you read the definitive statement (deleted by cherry-picking goons) in which the world’s primary sources on nuclear research declared the so-called tubes were incapable of such armament? The 9/11 Commission had it.

            Well, at least pretend to care about factual reality and look it up for yourself. That google thingy miraculously finds all sorts of data, if a search contains more than half-wit nonsense. I had a Q clearance for a massive nuclear project and have no patience for disinformation and warmonger hysteria. You do not want to know the truth, so far be it from me to indulge your delusions. Good luck.

          • Keith Kapko

            You, being in supporter of the left and its failed administration clearly outlines your propensity to embellish information. Its a prerequisite for being a party member of the left. Their fraudulent elections are one way they win political positions. Support from a completely gullible and dillusional public, spoon fed the feces regurgitated from a gaping hole in the front of their heads, is the other. Hillary is a perfect example of the first way and you fall in to the second. Good Luck

          • lolana

            But the Right doesn’t do fraudulent elections….uh huh

          • лидия

            You are right about single-payer healthcare, but Obama care is NOT such, not even near.
            And not only neocons are to blame for USA imperialism – Obama and Killary are not less guilty, for ex.
            Of course, FM trying to whitewash aggression against Iraq is pathetic, but no one could do it better, because he tries to defend the indefensible

          • womanity constancy

            Agreed. No relief in sight (without a Bernie Sanders miracle revolution) for the criminally corrupt healthcare industrialists that kill, cripple and bankrupt more citizens than other developed nations have in decades. Tragic and part of the grander MIC.

            Clintonian warmongering may be greater than Obama’s, but the old Establishment remains a neoliberal conservative gang unaffectionately dubbed neocon for the rare blend of oblivious arrogance. That Ayn Rand voodoo economics keeps people too poor and uninformed to respond.

            Excuse me for going off point, disappointed in the #BernieBlackout setback that darkens prospects for change.

          • Keith Kapko

            You are clearly delusional in regards to Obamacare. When half of obamacare co-ops have closed their doors, its not exactly a sign of its success. Cheers

        • Mirek

          Before the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam Hussein was cojoled by the US Ambassador into thinking that Washington would treat that incursion at arms length. What ensued was just the opposite, the whole media propaganda machine was set into motion, including the `humidicrib story and babies being thrown to the floor`, a total fabrication, but given the full treatment by the prestitute media. This gave the opening to US imperialism for the whole string of wars of aggression in the Middle East. Much as 9/11 used for the world-wide `war on terror`, a PR stroke of genius`!

          • Francisco Machado

            Why would the notoriously liberal media support any action initiated by George Bush? Indeed, why did Hillary support the WMG intelligence in a speech, saying she was certain of their existence?

          • лидия

            “the notoriously liberal media” is a misname. The proper name is “the wholly imperialist media”. USA imperialism is bipartisan, and both imperialist parties are turning the world into hell. Who was a prez – Dem or Rep in every case of imperialist crime is not important at all.

          • lolana

            NPR reported the yellow cake memo was fake, then stood by and commentators said absolutely nothing about it following GWBush’s State of the Union where he used that memo as evidence to go to war with Iraq. I kept waiting for them to say, wait what. Never happened. Not in the “analysis” afterwards, or any other time. Liberal media, my ass.

          • Timm

            >Saddam Hussein was cojoled by the US Ambassador into thinking that Washington would treat that incursion at arms length.

            Tariq aziz himself pointed out that this wasnt true.

          • Ronda

            So I’m guessing you’ve already seen this? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=incontrovertible+9%2F11

          • william beeby

            I believe you are right in what you say.

        • william beeby

          According to US general Wesley clark ( see youtube videos ) America had/has plans , in his words , to take down 7 Middle Eastern countries . They are well on the way . Saudi Arabia , probably the most brutal , medieval and illegitimate regime on the planet , was not on the list.

        • lolana

          Second Iraq war came after we decimated their country with sanctions and bombed the shit out of them for a decade. Second Iraq war came after Saddam begged US not to strike, agreed to every single demand, plus agreed to buy one million US-made automobiles for the next ten years. Too bad, though, US wanted to bomb, maim, and kill, its own, and theirs too, in their cowboy wars. But hey, Madeline Albright said the sanctions that killed that half a million kids in the 90’s..they were Worth It. Yep..that’s what she said. And here we are.

        • SuperTech86

          “It is difficult not to see the results of the actions of Obama and the
          State Department as anything but calculated to sow mayhem throughout
          North Africa and the Middle East.”

          Except for the fact that the neocons and the CIA had been running ops in those same countries for DECADES before Obama got into office waiting and planning to accomplish exactly what was done.

          You clearly have no idea what the Zionists/neocons/CIA/DOD/MIC has been up to over the past half century.

          • Francisco Machado

            The Unites States has been involved in wars and political intrigues in North Africa since the very beginning of the nineteenth century. It is, however, the actions of the Obama administration to which I refer. The roots of the current situation date back largely to the post WW I period. My reference is to the current situation and the abysmal blunders and miscalculations if from stupidity or treasonable acts against international law if deliberate, made by the current administration. the history of American involvement is not irrelevant to the situation, but is largely irrelevant to the current administration’s disastrous handling of it. More specifically, what has every appearance of a deliberate attempt to engender a state of anarchy in nearly all of North Africa and the Middle East by deposing or unseating controlling elements which, bad though they were, engendered a level of mayhem far below what their removal has created. Yes, Bush bears some responsibility, but the need is to correct the current situation. Iraq was in a (relatively) stable situation until Obama withdrew troops before there was a sufficiently well organized controlling power to maintain order. Our government is also providing financial backing and arms to terrorist groups, by second hand transfer if not directly. We are a major contributor to the actions that are driving millions out of the involved countries, an action that provides cover for terrorists moving into European countries and the United States. Note that the CIA is not now under control of any of the prior administrations. It is under control of the Obama administration. Holding a gun to the head of Bill Clinton or George Bush and demanding they alter the activities of the CIA would get you nowhere – but jail. Deal with now, not a decade ago.

        • Cameron Douglas

          And don’t forget that Saddam Hussein was extremely anti-terrorist. Iraq was a huge source of anti-terrorist intelligence. Saddam had plenty of faults, but he was a huge asset to the US….until it didn’t suit their plans.

      • Timm

        What do you think of isis making gains in areas in which russia bombed?


        Bit odd, no?

        • corners

          the maps not really giving us much for context. Whats it take to lose or gain control of those dots? How long do they have to hold it for it to turn? Where are other collation air strikes? At least be fair.

      • Post American

        I believe that new Presidents get sat down by surviving ex-Presidents and get the facts of life explained to them. All Presidents break the law, at least technically, at one time or another, or defend their behavior in ways that not all would accept. If one Administration prosecutes the preceding President, ALL Presidents will face criminal charges upon leaving office. It will be the end of politics as we know it, and future candidates for the office will be even lower on the food chain than the current mob.

        I would love to see Bush, Cheney, Powell, Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith and others behind bars, but I recognize that it is a political impossibility.

        • лидия

          ” It will be the end of politics as we know it”
          Exactly – so this “politics” is just a chain of criminal rulers, so, sure, it should keep on, right?

        • Keith Kapko

          And not Hillary? The most reprehensible person ever to seek the presidency. She should have been first on that list.

          • corners

            “The most reprehensible person ever to seek the presidency. She should have been first on that list”

            Even though she was only a vp pick, id say sarah palin was the scariest person to ever get close to the white house, followed by clintons/bushs dynastys

    • margsview

      Even with sourced citing, you still qualify and question, unbelievable…

    • lemony1421

      What do you mean “IF”?

    • Houmpheng Phonsavath

      Obombma too.

    • AndrewM.

      Then Trump.

    • lolana

      It didn’t begin with Hillary and won’t end there. This kind of crap goes back decades and no one ever answers for it….for very long..

      • ramoncramon

        Patreus answered for it as well as the guys who outed Valarie Plame

    • dagoof

      We all should hang for allowing our governments to get away with this garbage.

    • Cameron Douglas

      It’s all true.

    • ImaHippyBurning

      Even if it’s NOT True!

    • greyghost1

      The reason for the war is true the email evidence is whats new.

    • John Kneeland

      If you had any brain, you would be actually researching this instead of lounging in the back of a gravel truck and making smug remarks.

    • brenda Peoples

      Its VERY True…Thats why its important to not get her elected. Votew Trump to get the Democrats out of there.

  • Ian Crause

    I’d love to know if those emails touch on the Honduras coup….. she covered up all sorts of shit there, as well. It may well be a US National Security issue, of course…. assuming Chiquita Bananas is a national security concern.

    • Chris Stone

      Well it might well be considering the longstanding historical legacy of The United Fruit company which was essentially a front or body used by the CIA which controlled and influenced various governments in Latin America through it.

    • Benton Marder

      Go back further and see if Hillary put Bubba up to expanding NATO eastward after the fall of the Soviet Reich—despite a formal commitment by GHW Bush not to do so. Bubba himself was then making noises about turning the Black Sea into a NATO lake by getting the Ukraine to force Russia out of the Crimea. Obama later gets into the act, along with Lugar, by conning the Ukraine into getting rid of much of its conventional weaponry by promises they had no authority to make. Charming troublemaking bastards.

  • TrueEyes

    This is all very true. I knew all these things as they were happening back in 2011. The information was all over the Net back then. Videos of Libyans and migrant workers being executed! The war crimes were horrific! To think that this war criminal, aka Hitlary Clinton, is running for POTUS makes me physically ill!

    • Andrew_Nichols

      Utterly evil terrifying demagogue and the DNC will go to any lengths to enthrone her. HRC POTUS – WW3 imminent. Trump is less scary!

    • lolana

      “We came, we saw, he died”

  • jigsaww

    This proves that US has been lying about everything on its intervention and policies.

    • Areminder

      Does anyone else remember When the USA was truly an honorable nation and force for the good of humanity throughout the world?
      Of course that’s when we sent more Missionaries than troops in to change lives.

      • Howard Miller

        Being a Canadian I have not been brainwashed to the same degree that US citizens have been in history lessons. US foreign policy has always been atrocious,citing spreading democracy to the unwashed masses as a cover,while supporting unpopular regimes to further US business interests in said areas. Look at the Banana Republics in the 1900’s where they put the Sandanistas in power,and the El Salvadorians revolted and deposed them within 6 months. They supported the Shah of Iran,another dictator who tortured and murdered at his whim,who was deposed by the populous and ended in created the muslim state it is today which is now a firm enemy of the US and all things “Western”.
        If you want to cite WW1 or WW2, please remember the isolationist policies that the US politicians pursued,saying it was not in the US’s best interests to join with us in the effort. By mid 1917,we had already been soaking the battlefields in our blood for three years. The Germans called Canadians “stormtroopers” because of our tenacity,courage and determination. By 1942,again we had been sacrificing our men for 3 years before the US threw in with us.
        Your government supported Idi Amin for Us mining interests. Noriega in Panama. I could go on and on. I don’t belittle the contribution or sacrifice of your fighting men,some of whom joined the fight well in advance of your government’s whims,but I tire of hearing the US calling themselves the world’s police force.
        George Bush Sr. was a statesman who forged an alliance of UN forces including 6 Arab nations to battle Hussien’s naked aggression in Kuwait.It was still not altruistic as Saddam threatened the world’s oil supply and economic stability.
        George Bush Jr. though destabilized Afghanistan,then Iraq,and even going as far as threatening to do the same as in Iran,leading to the current situation in the world. To boot he insulted Canada’s honour by calling us poor allies when we didn’t join in his folly before the UN asked us to intervene. Hell,any idiot could see he was just doing it because of his failure to relight the US economy heading into the next election.He knew no incumbent President on a war footing ever lost an election.
        Clinton tried a bombing campaign just to distract the media from his affairs.I dare you to name a single conflict involving the US that didn’t first involve US corporate interests.

        • DvBmr

          The US IS a Corporation,

          • Howard Miller

            It is patently obvious to me that both our countries are being led by the nose because of the electorial processes and lobbyists that the corporations dominate. Maybe it is time we took the processes back out of their hands by limiting the amount of money they donate to elections and prevent the swag the politicians can accept. It might also help to reduce their salaries so that more people who looking to improve the country instead lining their bank accounts step up.
            You know, by the people,for the people.

        • ardave

          Good comment…btw, I love your clocks. (smile)

        • lolana

          Word. Yeah, what they taught us in school about History turned out to be a fairy tale.

  • Lalibela Nile

    Nothing nuh new under Babylon’s sun… Relative to foriegn policy, this is business as usual for the West…

  • knowledgeisgood

    Damn these crooked Politicians.

  • david

    she had Amb . Stevens Murdered , and pulled the Muslim angering video card from her sleeve for the media morons to latch onto .

  • Hillary – “We came, we saw, he died.” What an evil witch.

    • David in MA

      Gadhafi knew to much and was getting ready to move on his own, solution: kill the bugger.

  • nubwaxer

    this reeks of right wing extremist propaganda.

    • Your comment reeks of ideologically induced willful ignorance.

      • Rome Cruci

        in other words he, (nubwaxer) knows whats going on and he’s a fuckin liar !

    • Chris Mitchell

      The left-right paradigm is propaganda.

    • Juan TwoTree

      You’re a fuking IDIOT for sure Nubwaxer!! You sound like someone who would ‘wax his nub!!’

  • esqualido

    With no attempt to beatify Gaddafi, he might well have stayed alive had he put the nation’s gold and silver in the hands of his own people instead of some repository begging to be looted. That fact is, no nation today is a friend of the people in monetary matters. A return to honest money is as simple as making the soi called “security strip” in money out of gold, or silver- that would offer them some security!

    • HillaryofArabia

      That’s what he was trying to do with the gold dinar, if you actually read the article you would know this. I am resisting the urge to call you stupid, and am patting myself on the back for not doing it.

  • inkadinkadoo

    Who is going to hang them when everybody is bought and paid for?

  • Oju-Oluwa Nwo-e

    Just like every other interventions, we all know the true motives. I remember the day Gadaffi was killed…Hillary said – “We came, we saw, he died.” What an evil witch.

  • Robert Lettner

    People need to wake up before all this starts over again in Saudi Arabia and Iran!

  • Ganesh
  • Jct: They can’t stop the truth from coming out about Yankee crimes directed by the Wicked Witch of the West herself.

  • Chris Stone

    Am I missing something about this statement here from the article above.

    ‘Most astounding is the lengthy section delineating the huge threat that Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves, estimated at “143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver,” posed to the French franc (CFA) circulating as a prime African currency.’

    The euro banknotes and coins were introduced in France on 1 January 2002, after a transitional period of three years when the euro was the official currency but only existed as ‘book money’.

    So how is this statement from the article above correct or true?

    • Jester1137

      Start Here –
      Sorry, wouldn’t let me link.

      Please search for ” CFA Franc”. It’s a currency backed by the French treasury theoretically exchangeable for Euros at a fixed rate of 100=1.

  • MJ Darling

    There is a peaceful transition going on through many different groups. If you want to become part of it, join. After you watch a video, follow your excitement. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH9q10wsJSGcIgCaymVIgpg Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhOwucw-GRg

  • Arron Frazier

    You people on hear talk about throwing Hilary Obama and other politicians. If you don’t throw in the jail the people who give them their marching orders it will not matter. News flash the America people aren’t giving those marching orders. The bankers corporations and businesses people are giving the orders.

  • Akraim Fowad

    Mr Brad Hoff

    I think the story of gold currency is real Joke, we can add it to Viagra mass
    rape….etc. France, westerns,
    Nato and others has found Libyans in condition of exasperation and indignation
    from the chaos and the destroying of the army and the country’s administration
    and the absurd silly ideas that he imposed on them. It’s not important what the
    western think in, the very important factor is what the Libyans was need and
    feel. Without this factor, nobody : westerns or others can do nothing.

    • Funny how the diplomatic cables, then, show what Mr. Hoff says they show, as opposed to supporting your view that the expressed concerns about the people of Libya was anything more than a transparent pretext.

  • craig klucas

    What happened to Gaddafi’s gold?

  • Tony

    An nothing will happen let alone be mentioned by the media,she will still run for president with plenty of support that puts in question her supporters morals an suggest they actually support these murders an wars.So it’s true big business an criminal politicians are to blame we must also share this blame on the people that consistently vote an support these same politicians after the truth in there actions repeatedly come out time an again.Why are the people in power an there big business masters not being prosecuted for God’s sake there murdering millions of people,man woman children without a care.There destroying countries an getting away with it, there psychotic mass murderers.Hitler was a saint conspired to these people.And were did that gold an silver go no mention of it..

  • Jason Methystine

    If this story is credible she should definitely be impeached after her first or second term as President


  • bonni

    And after all this not only is Hillary allowed to run for office.. her security rating has never been stripped from her?????? What the h3!! does it take for a Dem to get convicted of ANYTHING ????

    • Areminder

      When the demons turn hades into an ice rink, there may be a good chance of that happening on a large scale.
      Remember she’s the daughter of a Major Cog in the Chicago Crime Political Machine. (And sister in more current times.)

  • bjeanfreau7

    France was running some kind of racket with their former currency. Hell, France no longer uses the franc themselves!

    • Areminder

      But the u.n. had sanctioned saddam so that he was ONLY supposed to be able to sell enough oil to buy food and medicine for his people. (Which he sold for weapons.)
      Frank Rich (whom bill clinton pardoned) was the main go between for saddam and sarkosy in their collaboration to get around the sanctions. You can bet SOMEONE was donating to the Clinton Foundation in that mess.

  • Buck

    I did not like kadaffie . But I remember that he had given up his weapons of mass destruction and they said he was helping in the war against al kadia . I think he was afraid we were gonna come after him. Which of course we did. I look at the chaos created since he was killed. Same with the other Arab nations. The tyrants are bad and they rule with an iron hand. But the Muslim terror groups seem to be much worse. We got all these country’s government over thrown and we see today what is happening. Bad stuff.

    • William Sanders

      Actually, the Libyan economy was great under Gaddafi. The people all got a cut from the country’s oil revenues, were paid the highest wages in the Middle East with almost non-existent unemployment, while enjoying a comfortable life style far above that of any other country in the region. Gaddafi may have been a strange bird, but he was good to his people.

    • Areminder

      khadaffie came to NYC to speak to the UN and clinton global initiative his last year of his life. bill and hill helped him get the permits to set up his royal tent in the middle of one of the parks. Then someone leaked the fact that he was to be “served” by a large number of female sex slaves and embarrassed them to the point the tent permit was pulled and he had to move to some prominant building.
      I always figured her effort to get rid of (kill) him was for embarrassing them with the city.

      • Buck

        I remember when he went to New York . Think he spoke at the UN. No doubt about it he was a bad man.

    • Francisco Machado

      Observing the Middle East culture, was it possible to maintain stability in these countries in any other way but to rule with an iron hand? Qaddafi, it appeared, had learned by his past mistakes. Unfortunately for him and for Libya, he stabilized the country and became an economic threat to the Western powers, which they find less acceptable than terrorism.

      • Buck

        These Muslim I think do indeed need an iron hand as the only thing they respect is brute force. The leaders of these country’s killed the enemy’s so they didn’t have to worry about them later. A shame but seems to be the way it is.

  • TEA

    The Apostle Paul wrote about this situation in his time. (64-68AD.) It’s wickedness in high places, powerful evil spirit entities control nations, politics and religion! Eph. 6;12
    In the book of Revelation 9;16 we see 4 evil Angelic beings, unrestrained to slay 2.3 billion in a future war in middle east. In modern times only do we have this destructive power. We need leaders who understand
    the signs of the times? Not ones who are in league? This presidential election is critical for America’s future.

    • JPierre33

      …and a whole bunch of western ‘evangelists’ are anxious for this development towards their perceived rapture…all”… waiting for the miracle to come’.

      • Areminder

        One way or other, IT WILL COME. It’s just that Jesus said it’s Not for US to Know the Times and Seasons, but God ONLY. He told us to “occupy til I come.” and that word means “work” so we’re NOT TO GO OFF AND JUST WAIT, BUT WORK TO HELP ALL THOSE AROUND US FIND HIM AND AN ETERNITY IN HEAVEN AND NOT HADES.

        • Black_Tiberius

          Gods aren’t real, neither are devils and dragons so quit believing in garbage. Every religion from day 1 has predicted the end of the world and guess what? They’re all wrong….life goes on and on and on and will continue to go on until we become extinct and other species will fill in the gap we’ve left behind. Sorry to break your fairytale bubble

    • Karee Bearance

      Thank God we know who will win in the end, thank God I know where I am spending eternity! Praise The Lord Jesus Christ!! Amen!

    • Francisco Machado

      The Biblical writers understood the nature of man. They extrapolated the history of their time into the future, predicting that we would do the same things – over and over and over. And we do.

  • nigger

    The USA is like isis, these Europeans are lucky to be in the usa. They are thieves,

  • CCblogging

    Hillary is a criminal traitor and Bill is a criminal rapist. What a couple!

  • William Sanders

    “We came, we saw, he died, hahahahaha.” ~ Hilary Clinton laughing about and gloating over the death of Gaddafi on national TV.
    The woman is an immoral pig and unfit for any kind of public office … period. Obama and Hilary’s foreign policy has turned Libya into an unstable wonderland for Jihadists, causing untold deaths and misery … This is yet another in your face example of why we should have never interfered in this region of the Middle East. Hilary doesn’t possess the wisdom to be Commander n Chief.

    • Areminder

      You are a master of understatement.

    • lolana

      Yes, I was just thinking about that video, it’s a perfect little illustration of how sick the whole game is.

  • Jeff Z

    Iraq was the same thing – Saddam was planning an ‘oil bank’ payable in gold or Euros to circumvent the petro-dollar.

    Its seems the regime who claims to do all in the name of good is the actual criminals throughout history.

    • Areminder

      Only recent history, once upon a time we honestly did.

  • Moots

    So the $64 question… Where did the GOLD & SILVER GO? The Clinton foundation maybe?

    • gerry d welder

      IMF gold hoard was reported a few years ago 3rd largest of all countries behind USA and Germany. It is suspected that the USA doesn’t have what they report and refuse any audit, Germany can’t get it’s own gold back (because it too is gone?). So where did all that gold stolen from all those ‘regime change’ countries go? Hmmmmm
      Most IMF/UN employees pay NO TAX but Leguard keeps crying about raising your taxes.
      Wiki the UN, the IMF and World Bank are UN agencies of countless agencies, commissions, ‘peace keeping’ forces (really?), and organizations that your taxes are paying for.
      The UN produces nothing and generates no revenues, the UN is a gigantic parasite Trojan horse globalist’s world regulatory tool destroying the sovereignty of countries and freedom of citizens.
      People need to demand dissolution of the UN, keep the hell out of our country and restitution of it’s assets starting with the IMF gold hoard. and the UN’s hundreds of thousands of ‘world ‘ pensions.

    • gerry d welder

      IMF gold hoard was reported a few years ago 3rd largest of all countries behind USA and Germany. It is suspected that the USA doesn’t have what they report and refuse any audit, Germany can’t get it’s own gold back (because it too is gone?).

      So where did all that gold stolen from all those ‘regime change’ countries go? Hmmmmm

      Most IMF/UN employees pay NO TAX but Leguard keeps crying about raising your taxes.

      Wiki the UN, the IMF and World Bank are UN agencies of countless agencies, commissions, ‘peace keeping’ forces (really?), and organizations that your taxes are paying for.
      The UN produces nothing and generates no revenues, the UN is a gigantic parasite Trojan horse globalist’s world regulatory tool destroying the sovereignty of countries and freedom of citizens.

      People need to demand dissolution of the UN, kick them the hell out of our country and restitution of it’s assets starting with the IMF gold hoard. and the UN’s hundreds of thousands of ‘world ‘ pensions.

  • mike

    Criminal to the degree of Nazism. They should all hang at the end of a rope for crimes against humanity!

  • Lantus

    God Help Us, if this woman is elected President and OBAMA is installed as Secretary General of the UN.

    • Areminder

      HE will be the ONLY true help for us, (Even as HE ALREADY IS!)

      • Lantus

        Right Bozo

  • Jack

    So, once again, H. Clinton puts her stamp of approval on a process to eliminate Gaddafi, something she could spin and deny later to the unwashed US sheep, to help foreign interests opposed to the real interests of US citizens. But they do give her donations to her foundation, probably. Normally, assassinating Gaddafi would be cheered by most people in the US but we know she wasn’t bright enough nor brave enough to come up with this idea on her own. Her international handlers, though, do seem to have her dialed in. No wonder she doesn’t bother to try and cover her tracks well enough, the opposition is guiding her and she knows it.

  • Benton Marder

    The gods are dealing with this—by visiting upon Europe and the USA their divine punishment. This is the meaning of the Muslim Invasion and Conquest of Europe and the Wetback Reconquista and the Muslim Invasion of the USA—brought about by the Hubris and Ate of the very people that destroyed Libya. Lady Nemesis usually has the last word. In motre secular terms, ‘Blowback is a b—h.’

  • David in MA

    OK, Now, where does the Clinton foundation fit into all this?

    • Areminder


    • Francisco Machado

      Stay tuned and watch this serial drama unfold episode by episode. The book isn’t finished. You’ll just have to wait for the next chapter to be published – which is being delayed by every effort of the creator. Will all the subplots be tied together in the end? Wait and see.

  • Ron

    The sh*t just keeps getting deeper! I wonder what happened to that 143 tons of gold???????? Our State Dept contains nothing but criminals! And, the biggest one of all is running for President! HRC!

  • 143 tons is not a lot, and won’t be enough to destabilize anything.
    Continental European reserves will be more than 10.000 tonnes.

  • battle

    This is old news. Most of the countries we invade in the middle east is because of them not using the petro dollar to sell oil, not terrorism.

  • womanity constancy

    See “international security and infrastructural contractors”: there’s the fix unthinkable, done. Immediate prosecution should proceed, of course, with substantial evidence. But. But? Clip Clinton’s laughter at getting Gaddafi with W Bush joking about “wmd’s gotta be somewhere” for essence of U.S. foreign policy. What World Court? What UN? Excuse me, only Sen. Bernie Sanders even vaguely addresses the crisis.

  • GeorgeG

    She’s a traitor and criminal and should be behind bars.. she is sociopathic by clinical definition, cowardly and a nasty piece of work….the fact she is a front runner for Dems candidacy shows you how far America has fallen and the principles of the constitution shamefully lost….she climbs and manouuvers and plots in an America where the rule of law is non-existent, and applied with extreme prejudice between the scum elites and the others… she makes her way in a system where the breadth and depth of corruption has crossed the Rubicon….case in point – a financial system that’s too connected and to big to jail.

    Put simply, the whole system is fcked and absolutely destined for a 2nd American Revolution.

  • IHC

    That also explains how Goldman Sachs – who Ghaddafi used to invest 3.5 billion dollars in Gold – conveniently ‘lost’ his money right about the time Hillary started inventing the story of Ghaddafi killing his citizens.
    Remember black op ‘Zero Footprint’ – as the label is self explanatory!

  • Beedogz

    Plus Hillary and Obama violated the War Powers Act with the Libyan combat orders. NO approval from congress. Bush would have been impeached by democrats if he had done the same.

  • Sammaye

    Hmm some of this article, especially the end is a stretch.

    For example, you have no real evidence that a currency announced almost 20 years ago and refused by the AL (hence why Gaddafi never implemented it, because Libya could not hold up the currency on it’s own). All you provide is that they described it in a email. Yes, it was of concern back when Gaddafi pushed for it but that was a long time ago. The email quoted more like makes the case of supporting the Libyan armies with what gold is left.

    There is no direct quote as to why France has an invested economic interest, in fact America seems completely unaware of it too, hence the wording “unseen”. If they believed that Gaddafi’s gold currency was a problem to them I am sure they would have made a threat assessment of it, but they didn’t.

    The email you quote in the last section actually tries to give some credibility to what was proposed as rumours. As for the rape of Misrata, HRW has since been and their verdict was inconclusive, they couldn’t say one way or the other that it did not happen. They noted that women in Misrata had been raped but, to what extent, they did not know; nor could they attribute it with undeniable evidence. So that story might not be totally fake, maybe exaggerated by the rebel forces.

    But you should know that the battlefield is so full of shit at times that you can never truly trust information from it. Most rebels work from hysteria as it is, even now.

    Also the email quoted in the second to last section is a stretch and half as well to your conclusion and requires some inventive thinking.

    Also I think you mist quoted the first quote email about special forces. I believe the English actually states that French and English special forces were only handing weapons and supplies.

    So this entire article seems a stretch at times to a imaginative conclusion.

    • Hmm some of this article, especially the end is a stretch. For example, you have no real evidence that a currency…

      US State Department emails stating explicitly that Gaddafi’s proposed gold-backed currency was a motive for the Western intervention isn’t evidence that this was a motive for the Western intervention?

      • Sammaye

        You must remember that email was an advisor’s belief as to the motivations for France’s intervention. Not only that but they seemed unclear about France’s true economic interest in the area and clearly labelled it as “unseen”.

      • Sammaye

        What is also interesting is that even after this gold was found out “shortly” after, it wasn’t until the LNC said they would reorganise oil contracts to favour those who helped them that the West turned around and said “Hmm, maybe we can get a better deal with these guys, after all it isn’t some small time rebellion, this feels like the one”. Of course, to not make themselves look inconsistent they had to get involved in Syria…

  • Evangelina Aguilar

    time to send this woman to jail, please would the strong stand up adn do something? we know obama wont do a thing, he is afraid of the clinton dynasty ,and machinery, so maybe Trump? i hope she rottens in jail.

  • Justintime

    Libya: Ten Things About Gaddafi They Don’t Want You to Know
    By Global Research News


  • Justintime

    Goldman Sachs: Making Money by Stealing It

    By Stephen Lendman

    Global Research, March 17, 2012

    sjlendman.blogspot.ca 17 March 2012

    Money power in private hands and democracy can’t co-exist. Wall Street crooks transformed America into an unprecedented money making racket.

    Goldman symbolizes master of the universe of financial manipulation (Reuters April 16, 2011) It’s been involved in nearly all financial scandals since the 19th century.

    It makes money the old-fashioned way, through market manipulation, the scamming of investors, bribing political Washington, having its executives in top administration posts, and getting open-ended low or no interest rate bailouts when needed.

    It’s business model and culture assure billions of bonus dollars for company officials, complicit traders, and others on the take.

    Compared to Goldman, Bernie Madoff was small-time.

    Former bank regulator expert on white-collar crime, public finance, economics, and related law, Bill Blackexplained Goldman shenanigans pertaining to earlier SEC charges this way:


  • Justintime

    Press Contact: Kelsey Davenport, Research Analyst; (202) 463-8270 x102

    Updated: February 2014

    On December 19, 2003, long-time Libyan President Moammar Gaddafi stunned much of the world by renouncing Tripoli’s weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs and welcoming international inspectors to verify that Tripoli would follow through on its commitment.

    Following Gaddafi’s announcement, inspectors from the United States, United Kingdom, and international organizations worked to dismantle Libya’s chemical and nuclear weapons programs, as well as its longest-range ballistic missiles. Washington also took steps toward normalizing its bilateral relations with Tripoli, which had essentially been cut off in 1981.

    Libya’s decision has since been characterized as a model for other states suspected of developing WMD in noncompliance with their international obligations to follow. Assistant Secretary of State for Arms Control Stephen Rademaker stated May 2, 2005 during the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) Review Conference that Libya’s choice “demonstrates that, in a world of strong nonproliferation norms, it is never too late to make the decision to become a fully compliant NPT state,” noting that Tripoli’s decision has been “amply rewarded.”

    Tripoli’s disarmament was also a success story for the U.S. intelligence community, which uncovered and halted some of the assistance Libya was being provided by the nuclear smuggling network led by Pakistani nuclear official Abdul Qadeer Khan. At that time, the U.S. intelligence community was being harshly criticized for its failures regarding Iraq’s suspected WMD programs.

    The factors that induced Libya to give up its weapons programs are debatable. Many Bush administration officials have emphasized the U.S.-led 2003 invasion of Iraq, as well as the October 2003 interdiction of a ship containing nuclear-related components destined for Libya, as key factors in Tripoli’s decision. But outside experts argue that years of sanctions and diplomatic efforts were more important.

    they wanted him gone


  • jackedup

    Just another of many examples of wars being run, at the very top, by the private central banks. Look at every country that threatens our worthless dollar, they get invaded quickly.

  • Prelag

    At least she cares about women!

  • Supposidly this is the web cach of the actual email before it was pulled. I found this story here trying to verify it, the only other source I’ve found so far is this: http://anonhq.com/46716-2/


  • Ferit Tuzer

    So France was worried about the gold based currency a 3rd world country leader was maybe thinking of introducing and started an air campaign and toppled its leader because of it? this is the real conspiracy theory, not the campaign itself, as the article claims. The reasons for the campaign at the time were plain and simple, Qaddafi’s offensive on the civilians, especially at Benghazi which he was bombing and moving his armed columns into when the air campaign began. This was shown on CNN. And what is the source for this supposed email from somebody to Hillary about the gold issue? There’s no reference given. Who wrote the email, that’s not even clear. And he talks about “Hillary’s death squads” but the only relevance to a death squad in what follows is that the rebels killed captured foreign mercenaries.

    • Ferit Tuzer

      you can see that this email was written in a non-serious manner, by an unknown person, and those allegations are just his interpretation. https://web.archive.org/…/DOC_0C05779612/C05779612.pdf

  • ReadTagliavini

    The email links don’t work – anyone have them/ can point to them?

    • I’ve updated the piece with links to archived copies of the emails.

  • Jacques Bergier

    this is terrible.

  • david desorcy

    It is true, we have known this since it happened. Only fools get fake news from the propaganda media.

  • JD101

    American stupidity leads to more world chaos and death. What a surprise.

  • wharg

    “page not found” on the foia links. wonder why. so much for freedom of information and transparency of government in “the greatest nation on earth”

  • Persianized Mongol

    First Saddam, then Ghaddafi and now they are pushing for Assad but thank God Russia stepped in.

  • kudus

    link is broken again

  • Sisi Ni Wale Wabaya

    Its the same strategy being employed in Syria and Ukraine, only that this time around, the Russians simply blocked it…..and apparently the west, cannot do anothing about it…..President Putin is simply too smart and sharp for the West’s politicians…. But i think President Trump will find a way of working with Russia, bringing about geo strategic balace.

  • Chronic Pain Coop
  • Vishwas Patil

    No wonder Saudis are puppets of US to save their own skin. But for Russia, Bashir would have met with same fate as Gaddafi.

  • stinkingbadge


  • corners

    After the panama papers, it makes me wonder what gadafi had on western leaders.

  • nmp

    quel surprise. an internet article long on speculation with a tiny morsel of fact.

  • Shay Davis

    We’ve missed so many opportunities in this country to do the right thing. One more symptom of the elitist sickness is having this over inflated sense of entitlement that says its okay to wreck peoples lives for profit. Nevermind what kind it is; money, power, favor, etc.. I can’t help but think if Gore had been elected we might be world leaders in climate change right now instead of deservedly being hated for once again destabilizing the ME. Looks like we’re poised to coronate a U.S. queen who is going to continue to do more of the same. She rightly belongs in big house, not the White House.

  • Drifting Sun

    America thrives in the indulgence of the rest of the world, they know it is now or never; on the other hand, it will take at least two more generations to fully understand how America operates and manipulates the world to their favor, by then ALL the atrocities will be a thing of the distant past and won’t be remembered. America’s new generations will feel fully entitled to the pillage done by their predecessors, claiming there is no evidence of any wrong doings as the government destroys any evidence to avoid the past being brought upon them, it is up to you American and non-American to tell your kids what is going on, one day they will be able to fully take care of this mess, and change the world.

  • Syed Arbab Ahmed

    USA,NATO, UK, Europe etc repeated the Afghanistan chapter with Iraq, Syria &


  • zumaan andrade

    Liberal, conservative, far left,far right. who cares they are all a bloody bunch of murderers. Hillary, Bushes, Obama, Bill yes and Reagan. The whole political system answer to big money. That’s who put them there and big money is insatiable can never be filled hence war. In ashamed to be an American. Alto of ppl will hide their conscience about us. I won’t we suck. As for The Donald he said in 2003 that everybody has a price so im thinking… He will sell us out too.

  • Lisa Gunther

    This really pisses me off to know that our own media can’t be trusted. You are our 5th estate and responsible for keeping the government honest. Major FAIL. What you buy, everything hook, line and sinker? I agree that if this is true, Hillary is one the docket. Ghadiffi (aka, that socialist) was well revered in his country, but since he wouldn’t conform to your puppet systems of leaders, therefore requiring him to die, and that the West used to control the Middle East and Africa (aka, Muslims). Only because of their natural resources. I agree that Hillary should hang for this BS. You take the poorest continent and use it for your own gain? I thought were done with that feudal shit.

    Plus that worked out so well with our Iraqi neighbors; um, who did they give their oil contract to: China. We spent several trillion $ to acquire their oil; because of our dependence on foreign oil, we have created a national security nightmare; we are forced to keep up face for regimes we would not tolerate in other circumstances aka the Saudis. Obviously that didn’t turn out in our favor. Proving once again that you can’t gain anything from invading other people for your own benefit.

    If that is the case, why haven’t we invaded Saudi Arabia for our oil: I’ll tell you why ~ the primary family is ruled by a bunch of religious assholes, who further a command of religious intolerance that we would never put up with; they also create terrorists with their religious concepts. If we didn’t need their oil and we can afford to piss them off, lest we be with out the one thing that keeps this economy running. Both GWB and his dad sucked up to the royal family there; how did you like those $4-5/gallon oil prices? Apparently you can’t control them, even if you suck talking to your own best friends (aka as the Saudis). What is going to happen if they cut us off? I’ll tell you ~ complete anarchy.

    • Cameron Douglas

      You are a fool if you still think our meddling in the middle east is to get their oil! Wake up! Get off MSM! The ultimate goal is global control. Fnck oil…they don’t need it.

  • Cameron Douglas

    Hillary Clinton is a horrible witch globalist criminal and she should be in jail. How long did it take for General Petraes to be prosecuted? Not long at all. And Hillary’s crimes go way way beyond anything he did. Gimme a break!

  • Cameron Douglas

    TRUMP 2016 ! ! ! !

  • Here’s what you people ranting and raving about Hillary need to know about Libya.NATO decided Khaddafi had to go when he demanded payment for his oil IN GOLD. He was also attempting to establish a Pan-African version of the Euro backed by gold. The IMF and the World bank don’t have that kind of money. Since the largest gold deposits in the world are in South Africa and North Korea,NATO had a decision to make.If every African and Middle eastern country demanded gold for their natural resources, the Western paper dollar money system would go bankrupt.Either Khaddafi had to go,or your current lifestyle.Which decision was the right one?

  • arromas B

    all true

  • Teflon KC

    The Western powers literally depend on Africa being broken and disadvantaged. So f****** cruel and evil, Hillary needs to be rotting behind bars

  • winston smith

    As the saying says: Scratch a lie, find a Jew.

  • Rachman Cantrell

    Seems mainstream news will parrot anything people like Hillary and her minions say, whether it is true or not! I doubt that any of this will be on TV or in my local newspaper!

  • veggiedude

    This has always been known as the motive. The emails only verify.

  • Janine

    Let me guess the “Sub-Saharan black Africans” also happen to frequently be Christian?

  • Simon Gunson

    Clearly the real reason for using a private email server was to ensure plausible deniability of illegal interventions in other countries. BTW what has become of that server and why has it not been confiscated yet?

  • John Galt

    How long before the masses wake up?

    • Silverado

      I think it’s happening as we type…

  • Silverado

    Crooked Hillary the traitor and still running for President? This country is F’d up, well at least the left wing criminal neocon part is…

  • Gunnar Forsgren (<- in photo)

    This fundamental Youtube clip of a RT news aired back in 2011 convinced me back then. It all made sense at the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqZfaj34nc

    Hillary alleged email confirming strengthens this further.

    Saddam Hussein wanted to switch from dollar to oil trade in Euro. See what happened to him.

  • phreeman

    ….the New World Order corruption destroys completely…and the NWO’s infiltration of the US Federal Government is alarming – no wonder Obama never filled the Inspector General Positions at myriad Departments and Agencies, and targeted good American “Whistle Blowers”….and instructed an Attorney General to weighs prosecutorial discretion with exceptional political bias…

    …NWO’s Agents and Useful Idiots don’t realize the horror that will be unleashed as they foment a global crisis…

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  • John Kneeland

    You completely ignore the fact that Amnesty International and other human rights organizations documented all kinds of other atrocities against citizens by Gaddafi’s troops and that these findings were sent to the International Criminal Court long before NATO decided to go in. The email you source looks quite phony. No one talks like that in emails, particularly government officials. Oh, and whoops, Libyan factions still control all the oil. France has no hand in there. You are playing on people’s ignorance about what was going on for years before the war and how much Gaddafi was hated in Libya.

  • JoeBagodonuts3

    Transparency and brazen disregard for the law…Nothing will ever happen to the elite

  • The Omnivore