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Testing the Limits of Freedom of Speech: Ernst Zundel Speaks Out

An exclusive interview with one of Europe's most well-known political prisoners

by Kourosh Ziabari

April 30, 2010

Ernst Zundel is a German author and historian who has spent seven years of his life behind bars as a result of expressing his controversial viewpoints and opinions. He is a revisionist who has denied the Holocaust as described by most historians. He has been one of the most prominent political prisoners in Europe and has been jailed in three countries on two continents.

After his arrest in the U.S. in 2003, he was deported to Canada, where he was kept in prison as “a threat to the national security” for two years. After deportation to Germany in March 2005, he was convicted and sentenced in 2007 to five additional years of imprisonment on charges of holocaust denial.  He was finally released on March 1, 2010.

This is the first interview Ernst Zundel has given since his release.

Firstly, I would like to extend my congratulations on your recent release. Were you ever mistreated or subject to any type of mental or physical punishment in breach of international conventions?

Ernst Zundel in a courtroom in Mannheim, Germany on November 8, 2005 (Michael Probst/AP)

Ernst Zundel in a courtroom in Mannheim, Germany on November 8, 2005 (Michael Probst/AP)

My entire treatment these past seven years by those arresting me, trying and convicting me, and keeping me in prison has been in brutal breach of international conventions.  I was arrested in broad daylight on American soil by officials of the U.S. government who acted as hit squads for a nefarious lobby. There was no arrest warrant. I was not read my rights. I was whisked away in handcuffs without being allowed to get my wallet, to call my attorney, to be allowed to make my case before an American Immigration Judge or even hug my wife goodbye.

I was incarcerated in six different prisons on two continents in three countries—the USA, Canada, and Germany—without relief of any kind. In effect, I have had 10 percent of my life stolen from me – and for what “crime”? For having “overstayed my U.S. visa”?

Throughout my imprisonment, basic human rights principles were trampled underfoot repeatedly and with impunity. The worst prisons were the Canadian detention centers at Thorold, Ontario and at Toronto West, where I was held for two long years in isolation cells, ice-cold in the winter, no shoes or socks allowed. The electric light in these cells, bright enough to be able to read, was kept on 24 hours a day. Through a glass slot in the door I was checked every 20 minutes, and my activities were meticulously noted by the guards: one sheet for every day.  No dignity, no privacy. My toothbrush was kept in a plastic bin in a hall. I was not allowed to speak to other prisoners. Bed sheets were changed only after three months. No pillows. No chairs. When I wrote to my wife or to my attorneys, I had to sit on a makeshift pile of my court transcripts. No radio, no television, not even an electrical outlet to sharpen my pencils. No ball point pens, only pencil stubs, cut in half with a saw. No spoons, forks, or knives were permitted; only a white plastic spoon with a fork called a “spork” that had to be returned every time at the end of the meal. With very few exceptions when furtive guards showed me some kindness away from the surveillance cameras, I was treated as though I was the worst of criminals. That’s Canada for you, where I have lived and worked without a criminal record for more than 40 years.

It was somewhat better, but not much, in the United States. In Germany, it was quite a bit better in terms of the basic necessities, but personal mail was routinely withheld – 1,700 letters for up to five years – even after I forced a court to order that it be given to me. My so-called trial in Mannheim was a political show trial in the Stalinist mode in that my guilt was a foregone conclusion. I requested that exculpatory exhibits be allowed as validation for what I believed and had written and said. No meaningful defense was allowed. I could not put on record any forensic evidence, any historical documents, or even expert witnesses, That very request to be allowed to offer evidence was held to be a new offense of criminal behavior and could have resulted in new criminal charges – as were, in fact, lodged against my lawyers during that very trial who tried to overcome these restrictions.

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Kourosh Ziabari is an Iranian journalist and media correspondent. He regularly writes for Press TV, Tehran Times, Media Monitors, Salem News, Opinion Maker, Intifada Palestine, Ramallah Online and Strategic Culture Foundation. He has received the National Medal of Superior Iranian Youth from the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Read more articles by .



61 Responses to Testing the Limits of Freedom of Speech: Ernst Zundel Speaks Out

  1. mike

    May 7, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    According to this mans experience Germany isn’t much better now than in the 30′s. The only difference is they burn people instead of books. Really rather scary. Don’t know if I buy much of the revisionist theory but I sure as hell prefer them to the folks who are undermining freedom of speech. Revisionism will stand or fall on it’s own. Freedom of speech once lost is irretrievable.

    • Benon

      June 30, 2011 at 3:47 pm

      Okay I’m concviend. Let’s put it to action.

  2. Patrick O'Brien

    May 8, 2010 at 8:02 am

    Thank you for publishing the interview with Ernst Zundel . . .

    I found this story disturbing on many levels and — if the reported events are true — the Western countries concerned beneath contempt

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  5. Amin

    May 17, 2010 at 7:10 am

    this is a shame for all human beings.

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  7. PoliticiansAreCriminals

    June 1, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Poor old Ernst .
    Making it illegal to question the Jewish-Holocaust ?
    Why would they do that ?
    To protect the big lie.
    But facts are facts.
    Prisons are a reflection on the country –
    glad I aint a Canadian or American – their prisons are downright hideous.
    Not much better than those Jewish-Bolshevik Gulag-extermination camps.

  8. PoliticiansAreCriminals

    June 1, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Having said that , I still support the Jews.
    The survival of the fittest – the Jews are most excellent in everything they do.
    Sometimes I wish I was Jewish – the most intelligent and determined people
    the world`s ever seen.
    It`s sad to note that I`m part of the stupid,ignorant Aryan peoples-
    who are destroying themselves.
    Respect to Israel .

  9. Normajean

    June 7, 2010 at 8:18 am

    Persecution of scholars who dare to examine the political orthodoxy is usually a sign that there is some fabrication or myth that those in power wish to be upheld. The persecution of Jews, gypsies, homosexuals of a certain type, and communists in Nazi Germany and the territories of the Third Reich during the second world war are documented in the words and memoirs of those who suffered the abuse, directly or indirectly. And now the matter has been frozen into a single form that is a rigid catechism of “facts” enforced by a few gatekeepers who will not allow discussion or exploration of the matter, even in order to seek a way to prevent its recurrence. Sadly, its recurrence is guaranteed thus, by elevating the event to a kind of doctrine of faith with every question being relegated to the level of heresy! A holocaust is a tragedy which involves the persecution of innocent people or groups of people, or the destruction of nature or a region or the wildlife soil or water as has just occurred at the inhuman hands of a corporation in the Gulf of Mexico. It does not pertain to a single race or religion of human beings, or a decade or century or event that can be claimed and touted as the “justification” for a fresh wrong!

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