US Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East?

BEIRUT — Congresswoman Illena Ros-Lehtinen will have her hands full as she makes the political and social rounds at this month’s Republican National Convention.  Illena is the only female committee chair in the House of Representatives and arguably Israel’s most ardent agent.  She is a constant thorn in the Obama administration’s side, regularly castigating the president for playing “political games with U.S. foreign policy” and being “soft on Iran” and undermining the legitimacy of Israel.  Ros-Lehtinen is a congressional cheer leader also for her Jewish voters in Florida—a key battleground in the rapidly approaching US presidential election. Most recently, Ros-Lehtinen helped shepherd through Congress yet another bill tightening sanctions against Iran while calling for US military action against the Assad regime in Syria.

The Congresswoman’s focus will likely not be on pushing the republican’s talking points regarding her party’s nominee, Mitt Romney, the former “moderate Massachusetts governor” who she is aware is unlikely to win the White House. Nor, according to a source at the Democratic National Committee, frantically putting together final touches on their own Convention, to be held the week of September 3 in Charlotte, North Carolina, will Ileana spend much time with or promoting Mitt’s running mate, Congressman Paul Ryan. Ryan, an Ayn Rand (author of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged as well as founder of the Objectivism movement) follower, regularly tells audiences that “Ayn Rand’s teachings have been one of the most profound philosophical influences of my life”—well, except for religion and abortion, as Ayn who passed away in 1982 was an avowed atheist and strongly pro-abortion,  the opposite of  what Ryan tells audiences he is.

Rather, Ros-Lehtinen will be meeting with local, national, and international Jewish leaders in this must win state where she has been assigned the task of reassuring them that the Republican Party is Israel’s best friend and that a recent US government draft report urging a US re-think of its relationship to Israel is the responsibility of none other than Barack Obama, and it reveals his true disdain for Israel.

Helping her smear the White House with the findings in the draft  analysis will be William Kristol, publisher of the neoconservative Weekly Standard and Director of the New American Century, an “Israel first” Washington-based lobby “promoting joint Israeli and American political and military leadership across the globe, while bringing democracy to the Middle East”.

So what is all the fuss about?

It’s a paper entitled “Preparing For A Post Israel Middle East”, an 82-page analysis that concludes that the American national interest in fundamentally at odds with that of Zionist Israel. The authors conclude that Israel is currently the greatest threat to US national interests because its nature and actions prevent normal US relations  with  Arab and  Muslim countries and, to a growing degree, the wider international community.

The study was commissioned by the US Intelligence Community comprising 16 American intelligence agencies with an annual budget in excess of $ 70 billion. The IC includes the Departments of the Navy, Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Defense Intelligence Agency, Departments of Energy, Homeland Security, State, Treasure, Drug Enforcement Agency, Federal Bureau of Investigation, National Security Agency, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency commissioned the study.

Among the many findings that Ros-Lehtenin and Kristol and other unregistered agents of Israel will likely try to exploit politically between now and November 6, by using them to attack the Obama Administration are the following:

  • Israel, given its current brutal occupation and belligerence cannot  be salvaged any more than apartheid south Africa could be when as late as 1987 Israel was the only “Western” nation that upheld diplomatic ties with South Africa and was the last country to join the international boycott campaign before the regime collapsed;
  • The Israel leadership, with its increasing support of the 700,000 settlers in illegal colonies in the occupied West Bank is increasing out of touch with the political, military and economic realities of the Middle East;
  • The post Labor government Likud coalition is deeply complicit with and influenced by the settlers’ political and financial power and will increasingly face domestic civil strife which the US government should not associate itself with or become involved with;
  • The Arab Spring and Islamic Awakening has to a major degree freed a large majority of the 1.2 billion Arab and Muslims to pursue what an overwhelming majority believe is the illegitimate, immoral and unsustainable European occupation of Palestine of the indigenous population;
  • Simultaneous with, but predating, rapidly expanding Arab and Muslim power in the region as evidenced by the Arab spring, Islamic Awakening and the ascendancy of Iran, as American power and influence recedes,  the US commitment to belligerent oppressive Israel is becoming impossible to defend or execute consistent given paramount US national interests which include normalizing relations with the 57 Islamic countries;
  • Gross Israeli interference in the internal affairs of the United States through spying and illegal US arms transfers. This includes supporting more than 60 ‘front organizations’ and  approximately 7,500 US officials who do Israel’s bidding and seek to dominate and intimidate the media and agencies of  the US government which should no longer be condoned;
  • That the United States government no longer has the financial resources, or public support to continue funding Israel. The billions of dollars in direct and indirect aid from US taxpayers to Israel since 1967 is not affordable and is increasingly being objected to by US taxpayers who oppose continuing American military involvement in the Middle East. US public opinion no longer supports funding and executing widely perceived illegal US wars on Israel’s behalf. This view is increasingly being shared by Europe, Asia and the International public;
  • Israel’s segregationist occupation infrastructure evidenced by  legalized discrimination and increasingly separate and unequal justice systems must no longer be directly or indirectly funded by the US taxpayers or  ignored by the US government;
  • Israel has failed as a claimed democratic state and continued American financial and political cover will not change its continuing devolution as international pariah state;
  • Increasingly,  rampant and violent racism exhibited among Jewish settlers in the West Bank is being condoned by the Israeli government to a degree  that the Israel government has become its protector and partner;
  • The expanding chasm  among American Jews objecting to Zionism and Israeli practices, including the killing and brutalizing of Palestinians under Israeli occupation,  are gross violations of American and International law and raise questions within the US Jewish community regarding the American responsibility to protect (R2P) innocent civilians under occupation;
  • The international opposition to the increasingly  apartheid regime can no longer be synchronized with American claimed  humanitarian values or US expectations in its bi-lateral relations with the 193 member United Nations;
  • The Draft ends with language about the need to avoid entangling alliances that alienate much of the World and condemn American citizens to endure the consequences.

Interestingly, it notes Iran as an example of a country and people that have much in common and whose citizens have a real interest in enjoy bilateral associations (here an apparent reference to Israel and its US lobby) not determined by the wishes of other countries and their agents. It also highlights the need for the US to undertake the repairing of relations with Arab and Muslim countries, including the drastically curtained use of drone aircraft.

The coming days will clarity the success of Israel’s in making an issue of the finding in the soon to be published draft report and the degree to which the Republican Party will gain for its findings in the race for the White House.

[Editor’s Note: While this report does not mention the source for the information concerning the alleged draft report, FPJ with permission from the author is able to disclose that the source is a staffer with a certain research unit of the CIA.]

Franklin Lamb

Franklin Lamb
Franklin Lamb’s most recent book, Syria’s Endangered Heritage, An international Responsibility to Protect and Preserve, is in production by Orontes River Publishing, Hama, Syrian Arab Republic. Inquires c/o orontesriverpublishing@gmail.com. The author is reachable c/o fplamb@gmail.com 

306 Responses to "US Preparing for a Post-Israel Middle East?"

  1. peace prize loser  August 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    And yet Obama and Romney both covet Zionist support in the US. As an Asian, why is it the US Presidents are so anti China? China does not support 700 military bases throughout the world, it does not attack 3rd world countries with drones, killing thousands of innocent civilians, it does not seek violent regime changes and does not seek vassal states to encircle the US. Sure it has some civil rights problems, but that is in their own country. They don’t interfere with the way other contries are run. And yet you find vassal states like the UK and Australia behaving like servants to the US. What has China done to them? Both the UK and Australia have serious racial problems but does China tell them what to do? The US does not behave like a No:1 world power. If it is so, why does it need to have so many vassal states to “help” it along? China stands on it’s own 2 feet, with no vassal states a la the US. That is a sign of a true world power. STAND ON YOUR OWN. Depending on vassal states is just cheap skate.

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    • PCMcGee  August 31, 2012 at 6:11 pm

      If China were in the same position as the US, they would act the same way as the US. It is the role of the largest superpower to oppress dissent and promote it’s own interests at the expense of all others, because monetarism is a COMPETITION.

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      • Dr Olamazadeh  September 1, 2012 at 1:50 pm

        Do you promote “Democracy-Human Rights” or “Jungle order” ?

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    • Badman  August 31, 2012 at 10:22 pm

      Look you are morally right, but thinking in justice terms isn’t the way the world is run. Probably you’ve heard the term peak oil. When peak oil comes to reality (according to IEA it already took place in 2006) the commonly know economic paradigma of win-win changes to “i win you die”, becaue in a peak oil world all economic growth is a zerosum game. If China continues to grow it will need more resources especially energy resources which can only be taken away from western (especially US) consumption, which would result in a drastic collapse of western lifestyle. Infact it is already happening. The US has a special problem in this regard, because, as contrary to Japan or european contries, to make the transition from a road based mobility policy to a mass transport based policy, you would have to resettle 200 Mio of 306 Mio. of its inhabitants. That’s due to the low residential density caused by sprawling suburban settlement which are the most common type especially for the working middle class. So you see before that happens the US will prefer to go to war with China over resources. All military operations in Iraq, Afpak, Libya, Somalian coastal waters and so forth are the prepositioning operations to encircle and cut china off from its resource investments, so it will, in its deperation attack Siberia, which cannot be defended with conventional weapons. The same jeopolitical trap was set for Japan before WWII. When that happens Russia will “defend” itself with it full nuclear arsenal and the US will “help” too. For what exact purpose do you think is the missile defence shield? It is too large an too expensive against N.Korea or Iran too weak against the advanced russian arsenal, but just right for the expected few dozen chinese missiles which would survive a nuclear primacy option. Don’t be fooled by the ambiguity of the russians, they know that they could never defend themselves against a chineese resource expansionism. The “collapse” of the USSR was a deliberate internal restructuring operation long before it actually happened. Why was this done? Russia knew back in the 80’s that it will hit its domestic oil peak in 1987, (which it actually did), and that it had fallen behind the western block in key technological areas. Therefore it decided to drop hostilities with the west to access western technology and free up resources for rebuilding the russian economy and to have a strategic option against the chinese behemoth in the making. So communism had to go, and it did. Currently China has not closed the technological gap, when it does the west will have to return to mediaval ages. Therefore we can expect that a major war between the west and China will take place, between 2018 and 2020 at the latest.

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  2. Bill Owen  August 28, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    So where is this “document”? This whole article smells.

    ““Preparing For A Post Israel Middle East”” and who are the authours. Why no links to it? Why.

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    • Doe  August 28, 2012 at 11:05 pm

      You are correct Bill. This FPJ claims it represents all views but in reality it’s chock full of bash Israel articles etc.

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      • Jeremy R. Hammond
        Jeremy R. Hammond  August 28, 2012 at 11:33 pm

        If by articles that “bash Israel” you mean that tell facts, like how the Zionists ethnically cleansed Palestine of three quarters of a million Arab Palestinians, how the claim that the U.N. created Israel is a myth, how all of Gaza and the West Bank including East Jerusalem are “occupied Palestinian territories” under international law, how all Israel’s colonies in the West Bank and East Jerusalem are illegal, how Israel violated the ceasefire agreement with Hamas in ’08 in order to launch a full-scale military assault aimed at punishing the civilian population, etc., etc., then, yes, FPJ is “chock full” of them.

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        • Michael Reinelt  August 29, 2012 at 4:02 pm

          You are absolutely correct, the article states well known but previously hushed-up facts. Obviously, the Zionist-driven holocaust industry no longer can blind the eyes of the world to what kind of repulsive pariah-state this Zionist entity really is.
          One hopes that the name ‘Israel’ vanishes from the map, to be replaced with ‘Palestine’ and which gives aspiration and peace to all Arabs and Jews within its borders. The current situation is truly unsustainable.

          However, I am deeply offended by the horrible English the author is using; this does truly a discredit to the report itself.

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          • Addison Bross  August 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

            For all my hope that this account of a new policy brings me (assuming it’s an accurate report), I share Michael Reinelt’s dismay at “the horrible Enlgish” displayed in this essay.

            The following passage (fourth point in the list) states that ARABS are now free to pursue the EUROPEAN occupation of Palestine — ??

            “The Arab Spring and Islamic Awakening has . . . freed a large majority of the 1.2 billion Arab and Muslims to pursue . . . the illegitimate, immoral and unsustainable European occupation of Palestine . . . . ”

            What is to be made of this garbled prose? Are Arabs really — as a result of their recent uprisings for restructuring their societies — about to pursue a European occupation of Palestine?

    • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 4:13 pm

      Its a draft report that is soon to be published. Geez

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  3. Paul Andrew Mitchell  August 29, 2012 at 3:26 am

    MOving SyStems incorporAteD?

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  4. Adam  August 29, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Why is this article riddled with spelling and grammatical errors? Does FJP have any actual editors? Did the author even read what he wrote? Where are the sources for any of this? Not even one link to the “draft report” this article speaks of?

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    • RaChel  August 29, 2012 at 9:00 pm

      Add my voice to the choir re grammar, typo and spelling mistakes. Whoever clicked “send/publish” ought to be told about Spellcheck.

      To those asking for the article’s source, i.e., a link to the “draft”: the very word “draft” means not-ready-for-primetime. (Doh…) Further, the draft, apparently, has 16 (do we really need THAT many) INTELLIGENCE agencies as authors. Not exactly the type of entities to clamor for an interview with the “news” bimbos.

      Is this an intentional “leak” oopsery intended to gauge the temperature of the public? I hope so. The escalating atrocities perpetrated by the Israeli regime have to stop before the Israeli anti-semitic racists escalate their persecution of the Palestinians beyond the point-of-no-return. Hint: what the UN created in 1948, the UN may have to uncreate.

      The article goes very well with this one from Counterpunch:
      http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/04/20/israels-mental-illness/
      The final paragraph seems to validate all the points of the “draft”, and is all the sourcing needed for both articles.

      Also, check out Yoav Shamir’s 2-hr documentary “Checkpoint” about the horrific daily abuses and humiliations inflicted on the Palestinians by the Israeli border police. The only thing missing is an orchestra at the checkpoints, it would seem.

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      • David Evans  August 31, 2012 at 3:05 am

        While the garbled prose may need correction, and while this article may be a trial balloon, I’ve found Franklin Lamb to be a credible source of information in matters regarding the Middle East.

        Also, it is Israeli propaganda and a lie that the uN gave birth to Israel, as the Partition plan presented by the General Assembly was righteously rejected by Palestinian Arabs. Israel is in fact an illegitimate state spawned by Zionist terrorist violence, and it has ZERO legal standing:

        http://www.countercurrents.org/hart050410.htm

        http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/10/26/the-myth-of-the-u-n-creation-of-israel/

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  August 31, 2012 at 4:29 am

          Ah, I just repeated your observation about the myth of the UN creation of Israel, David, in a comment of my own, before reading yours. Thanks.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  August 30, 2012 at 5:51 am

      That’s “FPJ”. See, you make typos, too. No, FPJ does not have “editors”. There is just one editor (yours truly), who volunteers his limited time to bring articles from great journalists like Franklin Lamb and otherwise share knowledge and important information. I’ve tried to correct errors pointed out by readers. I usually try to carefully review articles before publishing. I did review this article and made numerous edits to it, but obviously missed a number of errors in my haste due to the limited time I have available to manage FPJ entirely on my own. If readers would like for me to have more time to spend editing and such so that such errors do not appear in the final version of published articles, they should donate to help support the effort so I could shift my labor from my job that pays the bills to FPJ, instead of insulting FPJ and complaining about reading articles for free from a totally independent source. Or go read the mainstream corporate media, if that suits you better.

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      • Nabbel Mancheri  September 1, 2012 at 7:46 am

        I 100 percent agree with you Jeremy

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  5. Shahraaam  August 29, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Why where ever it has been quoted they are all identical. Why this news has not been mentioned by other newspapers? Something is fishy!

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  6. Statement  August 29, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Who cares who wrote this? Who cares if the US Government and its intelligence community has been able to muster enough courage to actually face and address such realistic facts listed here that unfold in front of our eyes on daily basis. We see and watch these items listed here everyday on TV or online!! Wake up people!! Who cares what references are or where the links are. WHAT? Do you dispute these issues?? Are they not happening, really? Oh it must be antisemitism right? Give me a break, snap out of it!! The fact is that each of these issue listed here are a reality. The USA is not taken seriously in the world becuase it is viewed as a puppet to a mob like ZioNAZI internal lobby system that runs the US like OZ! THIS PEICE HAS LISTED FACTS! NO ONE DENY ANY OF THE ITEMS LISTED HERE. IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME THAT WE THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT REALIGN OUR NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS OR SUFFER A FATE THAT THE ISRAELI ZIONAZI REGIME OF NETANYAHOO/LEIBERMAN HAVE FORGED TO COMPLETELY ENDANGER THE NATION OF ISRAEL AND FURTHER, MILLIONS OF INNOCENT JEWS AROUND THE WORLD. ISRAEL IS THE #1 INTERMEDIATE TO LONG TERM NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT TO THE SAFETY OF THE UNITED STATES.

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  7. Statement  August 29, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    Professor Israel Shahak about Jewish “Religion”
    Tue, 03/03/2009 – 03:27 — smashdracs
    (Israel Shahak was a Polish-born Israeli Professor of chemistry at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, the former president of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights, and an outspoken critic of the Israeli government. Shahak’s writings on Judaism have been the source of controversy.)

    BOTH PARENTS WERE SURVIVORS OF THE HOLOCAUST. ALSO SEE OTHER SUPPORTERS TO SAVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND STATE OF ISRAEL FROM ZIONISM. READ FINKLESTEIN, CHOMSKIY AND MANY MORE…

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  8. Adnan Hamid  August 29, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Excellent research of what is happening.I see there are many smart-comments that only reflects that Israelis themselves are burying their heads in the sands, and denying historical facts.
    Occupation will never last, and the palestinian people are solid and will never die.If Israelis admit to themselves that their occupation will not endure, may be a solution will be found, otherwise the end is near.
    As usual Mr. Hammond, amazing research and awsome job. One day you may have a nice house on the beach in Haifa. You are even welcome in my house to be in Free Palestine.

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    • jerry  August 31, 2012 at 9:43 pm

      Re: “and the palestinian people are solid and will never die.”

      Be honest with yourself! If the UN, the US and Western Europe stopped financial support to the PA, tells us please what would happen to the Arab population of Judea and Samaria?

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      • gabi  September 1, 2012 at 2:55 am

        remind me, how much does the US give Israel each year? 3 billion? 4 billion?

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      • Adnan Hamid  September 1, 2012 at 7:09 pm

        I agree. If it was not for US support for the PA. Much will happen to what you call Judea and Samaria( which I will never recognize) They are an unbreakable part of Palestine). First Israel will find out that the current crooks running the PA will be gone, and the rest of what will happen Israel is not going to like.
        Also, let me remind you that the palestinian people are not smaller than the Vietnamese, and what you call almighty israel is not bigger than America.
        Iam sure you know what that means. It is only a matter of time. The game is over sooooooner or laaaaater Jerry. Good luck. I hope you have a backup passport.

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  9. Marian Hennings  August 29, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    An interesting article, but at the end the author calls the study “the soon to be published daft report.” I presume they intended to say “draft,” but some readers will consider it to be daft. I do not, myself, as it confirms many things I have read elsewhere by a variety of authors from a whole spectrum of political perspectives. Congress will no doubt take awhile to catch up with public opinion, but this has been true of Congress regarding other issues besides Israel.

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  10. quincy  August 30, 2012 at 6:15 am

    Franklin Lamb, like Gordon Duff, operate off sensationalized accounts, rarely sourced and what amounts to literary ‘name dropping’. Who pays Lamb’s salary? Beirut is very costly. Does he have a govt slush fund?
    This report is just as phony as ‘Ulsterman the Insider’ who gives ‘inside’ baloney on the White House.
    Maybe its from Wayne Madsen. Lamb tried that one years ago by claiming he had inside scoop about the Koleit Airport near Tripoli to be used for US troops- until he was called out for not crediting Wayne Madsen for the information.
    Whole thing smells, as does Lamb generally.
    That said- would be great if AIPAC got taken down but that is as likely as Wall St Kings seeing jail. Both control the zionist implementation and the personnel are the same.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  August 30, 2012 at 6:30 am

      I appreciate the skepticism. However, I’ve collaborated with Franklin Lamb publishing his articles for a long time and know him to be an honest person of high integrity. I do not know who his source(s) is/(are) for this information, and obviously can’t confirm it, but I do know he would not simply invent something like this. My suggestion for readers would be to take the information he reports with a grain of salt, as we all should for any unverified information coming from unknown sources. However, attacks on Lamb’s integrity are without merit.

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    • Jeff Blankfort  August 31, 2012 at 2:03 am

      I know Franklin and he lives very frugally in the Beirut suburbs and gets around on a motorcycle. He has been working selflessly on behalf of the Palestinians in Lebanon for more than 30 years and I have no question about his integrity (something I do have questions about when it comes to Gordon Duff). That being said, I, too, have questions about the authenticity of this document since it reads like the talking points that I or anyone supporting the Palestinian cause would make, that there are no quotes, and that such a commission could not exist in Israeli Occupied Washington without it being known and suppressed. Also, I am curious why none of the former CIA officials who now oppose US policies were not informed of it since they would be among the first to know. I hope that someone isn’t using Franklin for ulterior purposes and would like to be proved wrong.

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      • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 4:08 pm

        Clue is in “soon to be published draft report”.

        He also gave us this scoop:
        3 weeks after being named by President Obama in January 2009 as the 19th Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and during his first day on the job which was February 12, 2009, Leon Panetta, now US Secretary of Defense, signed off on a March 2009 “eyes only” CIA Report that had just been completed by his new agency. As reported at the time, the CIA Report predicted the demise of Israel within 20 years, if present political trends in the region continued. The CIA intelligence analysts concluded that it was unlikely that Israeli leaders would grant even minimal concessions in order to achieve a settlement with their neighbors, which comprise increasingly disillusioned and rapidly growing dignity and justice seeking populations.

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  11. m_s  August 30, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    I can’t see anything new. It is what Yehoshafat Harkabi wrote in Israel’s Fateful Hour. He ought to have known …

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  12. Veteran USAR  August 30, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    …the sentiment of the silent majority of educated american citizens..gives us real hope

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  13. Marc C. Daniele  August 31, 2012 at 2:51 am

    While I find this to be very, very good news, if true, I can not understand why no-one bothers to mention that more than 20 years before the ILLEGAL “state of israel” was formed under a UN Mandate that has been broken by “israel” actually making it illegal, there was another “jewish state” specifically formed, and would not have caused ANY genecide or dislocation of the native population?

    I urge everyone to look up “Birobidjan”!

    From what I understand it is even larger than the current ILLEGAL “state of israel”!

    “Birobidjan” = Problem solved, and the nightmare since 1948 can finally end!

    US Army Veteran
    Marc C. Daniele
    Hercy, Mo.

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    • Marc C. Daniele  August 31, 2012 at 3:00 am

      And before anyone says anything about “Birobidjan” being in Soviet Russia, I would advise you to see for yourself that “jews” made up the VAST MAJORITY of the Bolshevik’s/Communist’s in Russia! So what would the big deal be anyway?
      Besides how many tens of millions (mainly Christians) did these Communist’s (“jews”) murder in Rusia and Ukraine anyway!

      “Birobidjan” = Problem solved!

      US Army Veteran
      Marc C. Daniele
      Hercy, Mo.

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      • Adnan Hamid  September 1, 2012 at 7:16 pm

        Marc…. I looked and read the story of that Jewish state of the soviet union. It is amazing that no one talks about it.
        But there is not as much oil in that region as in the middle east to be gained.The middle east is much more profitable.
        I wish all veterans are as aware as you. Then made be the US military will be more educated and they may refuse to fight on behalf the failing zionist project in the middle east.
        The US’s moral character and its people are totally not refelcted in the US’s foreign policy.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  August 31, 2012 at 4:28 am

      The idea that Israel was created by the U.N. is a myth.
      http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/10/26/the-myth-of-the-u-n-creation-of-israel/
      It is true that the “Jewish state” of Israel was born of the ethnic cleansing of three quarters of a million Arab Palestinians from Palestine.

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  14. John McGrane  August 31, 2012 at 6:10 am

    I think this document is bogus. First off, where did it come from? How did it get out? Was it leaked? Who could have leaked it? Also, it just sounds like a wish list made up by someone who disagrees with U.S. Middle East policy. It doesn’t sound like an intelligence assessment. Lastly, I find it hard to believe that all these intelligence groups got together on one report. I actually wish it were true, but it sounds too good to be true.

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    • Del  September 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm

      Keep in mind that all intelligence agencies–military and civilian–answer to the National Security Agency. I worked and trained with all sorts of people.

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  15. Ken  August 31, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Perhaps it came from the authors of the Protocols of the Elders Of Zion which I’m sure most of you read before bedtime each night to keep up on your ZOG fantasies.

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  16. Jimbo  August 31, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    This site ain’t nuthin’ but Nazi filth and neither are most of its readers.

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    • Memey  August 31, 2012 at 9:09 pm

      In your opinion they are “Nazi filth”. You are just saying that because they are white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

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      • Gregory  September 1, 2012 at 4:15 am

        Yes Memey …

        Any white man with an opinion a jew doesn’t agree with can count on being called anaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

        They say they are anti-racist, but what they really are is anti-white.

        Anti-racism is just a code word for anti-white.

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  17. jerry  August 31, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    Zionism is a rational answer to anti-Jewish sentiment that would leave Jews without place, security, or the ability to be happy among ourselves without being accused of horrific acts that do not represent our world outlook.

    Just one example: Jews who became Marxists and participated in revolutionary atrocities are called Jews only by those who have a need to attack us. What a twisted mind will think of. Those Jews who became Marxists left their Judaism behind in their parents’ homes. They were no more Jews than the Italians of today are members of the Roman Legions. Only Antisemites confuse Jews with race. One can leave Judaism at will and return, if ever, at will. Anyone can become a Jew regardless of race, but Judaism imposes restriction based upon our historical development. We do not kill those who leave the fold and there is no requirement to do so, as there is in Islam.

    Zionism is fully a part of the real world and its unfortunate irrationalities. The Jews are at home in Israel – not Birobidjan. In Israel, we can circumcise our children and eat meat slaughtered without hitting the poor animals in the head with a hammer. You, folks, have our permission to continue your lives in any way you like. Just do us the same courtesy. Geez, what a bunch of bigots.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 1, 2012 at 12:57 am

      Speaking of bigotry, recall that the Zionists ethnically cleansed Palestine of three quarters of a million of its indigenous inhabitants to make way for their “Jewish state”.

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      • sabasarge  September 1, 2012 at 4:33 am

        Yo…try learning real history rather that eithet making it up as you go, or relying on sources such as…..this website.
        The vast majority of arabs (they weren’t calling themselves palestinians in 1948) left of their own volition, egged on by their so-called “leaders”.
        Allow me to educate you just a bit, not that I have any expectations that you’ll let the facts get in the way of you ignorant bigotry ……
        (notice the dates, and the sources)

        In his memoirs, Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948-49, also admitted the Arab role in persuading the refugees to leave:
        “Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return” (The Memoirs of Haled al Azm, Beirut, 1973, Part 1, pp. 386-387).

        “The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies,” according to the Jordanian newspaper Filastin, (February 19, 1949).

        The Economist, a frequent critic of the Zionists, reported on October 2, 1948: “Of the 62,000 Arabs who formerly lived in Haifa not more than 5,000 or 6,000 remained. Various factors influenced their decision to seek safety in flight. There is but little doubt that the most potent of the factors were the announcements made over the air by the Higher Arab Executive, urging the Arabs to quit… It was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades.”

        “The Secretary-General of the Arab League, Azzam Pasha, assured the Arab peoples that the occupation of Palestine and Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade,” said Habib Issa in the New York Lebanese paper, Al Hoda (June 8, 1951). “He pointed out that they were already on the frontiers and that all the millions the Jews had spent on land and economic development would be easy booty, for it would be a simple matter to throw Jews into the Mediterranean… Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down.”

        Even Jordan’s King Abdullah, writing in his memoirs, blamed Palestinian leaders for the refugee problem:
        The tragedy of the Palestinians was that most of their leaders had paralyzed them with false and unsubstantiated promises that they were not alone; that 80 million Arabs and 400 million Muslims would instantly and miraculously come to their rescue (Yehoshofat Harkabi, Arab Attitudes To Israel, Jerusalem: Israel Universities Press, 1972, p. 364)

        “The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live.”
        — Palestinian Authority (then) Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) (Falastin a-Thaura, (March 1976)

        The Secretary of the Arab League Office in London, Edward Atiyah, wrote in his book, The Arabs: “This wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boastings of an unrealistic Arabic press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab States and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to re­enter and retake possession of their country” (Edward Atiyah, The Arabs, London: Penguin Books, 1955, p. 183).

        Who gave such orders? Leaders like such as Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said, who declared: “We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down” (Myron Kaufman, The Coming Destruction of Israel, NY: The American Library Inc., 1970, pp. 26-27).

        The Arab National Committee in Jerusalem, following the March 8, 1948, instructions of the Arab Higher Committee, ordered women, children and the elderly in various parts of Jerusalem to leave their homes: “Any opposition to this order… is an obstacle to the holy war… and will hamper the operations of the fighters in these districts.” The Arab Higher Committee also ordered the evacuation of “several dozen villages, as well as the removal of dependents from dozens more” in April-July 1948. “The invading Arab armies also occasionally ordered whole villages to depart, so as not to be in their way” (Middle Eastern Studies, January 1986; See also Morris, pp. 263 & 590-592).

        One refugee quoted in the Jordan newspaper, Ad Difaa (September 6, 1954), said: “The Arab government told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in.”

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        • AlleyCat  September 1, 2012 at 4:38 am

          tl;dr

          But a picture speaks a thousand words:

          http://palestinianfieldnegro.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/palestinian_land_loss_map.jpg

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 1, 2012 at 5:03 am

          How perfectly hypocritical of you to lecture me on learning real history while repeating Zionist propaganda such as “The vast majority of arabs (they weren’t calling themselves palestinians in 1948) left of their own volition, egged on by their so-called ‘leaders'” copied and pasted from a source like http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org and denying that the Zionists ethnically cleansed three quarters of a million Arabs from Palestine in order to create their “Jewish state”. This fact is uncontroversial.

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          • sabasarge  September 1, 2012 at 5:11 am

            Just as I thought, fools such as yourself never let the truth get in the way of their blind hatred.
            Matters little to me.
            We continue to thrive and invent, helping society along the way, while the arabs continue to tread water in the 7th century.
            Let ‘em choke on sand, we’ll be just fine.

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 1, 2012 at 6:01 am

            I would suggest your denial of the fact that the Zionists ethnically cleansed three-quarters of a million Arabs from Palestine to create their “Jewish state” is wilfull ignorance stemming from your own blind hatred, with is in turn an illustration of your extreme hypocrisy.

  18. john johnson  August 31, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Why do think Israel has nuclear weapons? They will be used.

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  19. sabasarge  September 1, 2012 at 5:39 am

    There’s no arguing with ignoramuses like Jeremy. He probably believes there was once a nation called Palestine.
    I’m guessing he keeps an Arafat doll under his pillow as well.
    As I said, we’ll be fine ( and that’s what really pisses him off)

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 1, 2012 at 5:59 am

      There’s no reasoning with ignoramuses like sabasarge who prefer to create strawman arguments like “He probably believes there was once a nation called Palestine” and making irrelevant comments like “I’m guessing he keeps an Arafat doll under his pillow as well” instead of addressing the fact that the Zionists ethnically cleansed three quarters of a million Arabs from the territory known at the time as Palestine in order to create their “Jewish state”.

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  20. dmgold  September 1, 2012 at 6:21 am

    John Johnson is right. If the world proves to be foolish enough to applaud the destruction of the Jews for the 2nd time in modern history, dont be suprised if you end up breathing radioactive dust, I doubt Obamas anti Jew security experts figured this into their report.

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  21. Winnie the Pooh  September 1, 2012 at 7:03 am

    Jeremy – you are deluded! Don’t know where you received your brainwashing but it was not from a knowledeagable source. This is revised history – you are probably young and definitely gullible. And even if the Palestinians get their state none of those in the camps will be eligible to be citizens, the Arabs need them there to forever claim victimhood. No Islamic state or muslim country will give these people citizenship only the west and Australasia accept them.

    Open your eyes before you are so blinded with hate by those who are just using people like you that you cannot see that you, like the refugees, are just a pawn in the great revision of Islamic history!

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 1, 2012 at 9:16 am

      Since you are the one denying the non-controversial fact that three-quarters of a million Arab Palestinians were ethnically cleansed from Palestine, clearly you are the one who is deluded.

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    • sabasarge  September 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm

      Winnie, you, as am I, waisting your time with these bozos. Truth and facts mean nothing to them, as they only get in the way of the Jew-hatred.
      I gave them quotes with dates and sources, and all this jeremy fool can do is disparage a site that he thought I’d used (which I didn’t BTW), as if that would have changed the facts presented.
      Save your efforts for people worthy of them……you won’t find them here.

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      • Jeremy R. Hammond
        Jeremy R. Hammond  September 1, 2012 at 3:30 pm

        The fact that in the world of sabasarge, speaking truth = “Jew-hatred” says everything anyone need know.

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    • sabasarge  September 1, 2012 at 4:22 pm

      “Western colonial powers had no authority to take land from one people and give it to another.”

      They never had the land you idiot.
      Funny how you have no issue with the fact that arabs, having originated in Arabia, expanded into, conquered, and colonized ALL the other countries they now claim, having zero historical connection to any of these lands, yet Jews coming back to Israel, with over an over 2000 year connection to the land, is the only problem for you.
      Kind of lays out for all to see your abject anti-Semitism.
      What a bunch of losers.

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    • Cory  September 2, 2012 at 3:24 pm

      Wow, the zionists are out in force!! Are you paid to write that propaganda or are you truly that ignorant?

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  22. Denis Vulinovich  September 1, 2012 at 7:06 am

    I’m amazed that those who make the claim of Israel’s “illegal occupation” are so ignorant of international law and history. Specifically, that the Jews were legally granted the title to the land of Israel by two international acts 90 years ago – the San Remo Conference in 1920, and the Mandate for Palestine in 1922. The latter was unanimously verified by all 51 members of the League of Nations, and it fixed the borders of the land from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean.
    Those acts of international law are upheld by Article 80 of the United Nations charter, and have never been revoked.
    So how the Jews can be illegal occupiers of the land that they were legally given by international community 90 years ago is beyond me.

    By the way, if you still insist on Israel’s illegality, what do you say about the nations of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan, which were all established by the same legal process in the 1920’s?

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 1, 2012 at 9:25 am

      Nonsense and lies. Western colonial powers had no authority to take land from one people and give it to another. Nor did they claim to in this case. Both the San Remo conference and the Mandate for Palestine referred to the so-called Balfour Declaration, which expressed the British policy of favoring a “national home” for the Jewish people “in Palestine“. That policy was explained in the Churchill white paper, which characterized the “national home” that the British supported as autonomous Jewish communities within Palestine. Jews legally owned about 6% of the land of Palestine at the time of the Zionists’ unilateral declaration of the existence of the state of Israel in 1948, while Arabs owned most of the rest of the land. The “Jewish state” was created by ethnically cleansing the land of three quarters of a million Arab Palestinians. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan were not established by the same process as Israel. Those Arab states’ independence, unlike Palestine’s, was recognized in accordance with the charter of the League of Nations.

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      • Dahlia  September 2, 2012 at 1:16 am

        By Jeremy:

        “Jews legally owned about 6% of the land of Palestine at the time of the Zionists’ unilateral declaration of the existence of the state of Israel in 1948, while Arabs owned most of the rest of the land. The “Jewish state” was created by ethnically cleansing the land of three quarters of a million Arab Palestinians. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan were not established by the same process as Israel. Those Arab states’ independence, unlike Palestine’s, was recognized in accordance with the charter of the League of Nations.”

        LOL

        I can’t even decide where to start refuting this nonsense.
        May be the “illustrious” Jeremy can shed the light how did approx 27 thousand Jewish fighters and a large portion of them younger then 18 years of age, managed to “displace” 750,000 Arabs while at the same time defending the new Israel from FIVE attacking Arabs armies in 1948, because I haven’t a clue.
        No one is disputing that approx 727,000 Arabs were displaced, but what I dispute is that they were forcefully displaced. Majority left at the urging of the advancing Arab armies with a promise to return and receive the Jews land as well.
        Now may be Jeremy can answer a question. What do you think would have happened if the Jews lost the war? Would there be a single Jew left alive?

        And because you seem to be into history distortions, the Jews are not the occupiers, the Arabs are. If they has stayed put in Arabia in 636 instead of attacking and conquering Palestine, there would have been no conflict today.
        David here already explained to you the the San Remo paper, sanctioned and approved by the League of Nations in 1917 is the last legally binding document establishing Israel has a home for the Jews.
        At the same time yet another Palestinian state was to be established along Israel, even though Jordan came into existence in 1946 as a Palestinian state.
        What did the Arabs do?? Attack Israel instead.

        Are you on Lamb’s payroll? Are you getting paid by the lie??
        Unfortunately for you and others like you history is the solemn testimony to the Jewish entitlement in Palestine.
        Archaeological excavation prove it beyond a doubt. Now you could get elected a Pope if you provide ONE SINGLE artifacts proved to be from a “Palestinian origin”.

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 2, 2012 at 6:58 am

          Dahlia, if you’d like to know how, in great detail and with extensive documentation, the Zionist forces systematically ethnically cleansed Palestine, as well as how most of the fighting occurred in areas designated to the Palestinian state under the U.N. partition plan (which was never implemented) and how the Arab forces only managed to succesfully defend the West Bank and Gaza from the Zionist offensive operations, I suggest you read “The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine” by Israeli scholar Ilan Pappe. He also dispels with the other Zionist propanda lies you are repeating.

          As for San Remo, I defer to my previous comment.

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          • Margie  September 2, 2012 at 10:46 am

            And if Dahlia reads Pappe she will be reading someone who says that facts are not important.

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 2, 2012 at 2:08 pm

            ?

          • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm

            @ Jeremy: I do admire your patience in dealing with these zionist paid up agents who infest the net. You deserve a medal.

          • sabasarge  September 3, 2012 at 12:09 am

            For anybody interested in the “scholarship” of Ilan Pappe, click on the link below.
            It makes perfect sense that the Jeremy Hammond uses him as a source, and see him as a here. As for Margie’s comment, that Jeremy responded to with a “?”, Pappe has been quoted as saying that truth matters less to him as a historian than does the narrative.
            How fitting.

            http://www.tnr.com/article/books/magazine/85344/ilan-pappe-sloppy-dishonest-historian

        • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 3:36 pm

          @ Dahlia: It was in fact 5.5% and since when does owning property equate to making a state from that anyway? Jews own property all around the world so with your logic they can practically annex the whole world.

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        • sabasarge  September 2, 2012 at 7:45 pm

          Dahlia, there is no point trying to argue/debate/converse with these Jew-haters.
          If you look into some of the older responses here, you’ll find that I posted plenty of proof, in the Arabs’ own words and with dates and sources, to show exactly why most of the Arabs left their homes in 1948.
          Truth and facts mean nothing to these bigoted ignoramouses.
          Your time is much too valuable to waste it debating with Himmler wannabes.

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          • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 9:51 pm

            Ethnically cleansed under the barrel of a gun is not leaving their homes voluntarily hence the RIGHT OF RETURN is international law.

          • sabasarge  September 2, 2012 at 11:19 pm

            Hey stupid, did you bother to read those quotes? Nobody made those up, and There’s plenty more. Even the Arabs at the time admit to it, but your Jew-hatred blinds you to it. What else is new? As it is, they’ve been offered their own country three times, though for the life of me I can’t figure out why, as they have zero sensibility as a “Nation”.
            It matters little as they hate the idea of a sovereign Jewish nation much more than do they value a country of their own, and they have proven it time and again.
            This you can take to the bank…there will NEVER be a (so-called) palestinian State.

          • Blake  September 3, 2012 at 6:04 pm

            Whatever you whine about sarge Palestinians never consented to you being there. Period.

    • David  September 1, 2012 at 7:01 pm

      Denis
      Nonsense.

      I remind you that the 1922 League of Nations British Mandate for Palestine was a Class A Mandate, i.e., Palestine was to be administered by Britain AS A WHOLE until its citizens were able to assume democratic self-rule. By incorporating the Balfour Declaration the mandate did facilitate Jewish immigration to “secure the establishment of the Jewish National Home,” but it did not call for the creation of a Jewish state or homeland in Palestine or any form of partition. Nor did the illegal (i.e., in violation of the established legal maxim “Nemo dat quod non habet-nobody can give what he does not possess) Balfour Declaration which “favour[ed] the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish peoples.” A “national home” is not a state or homeland. As Chaim Weizmann observed, “The Balfour Declaration of 1917 was built on air.” As declared in the Churchill Memorandum (1 July 1922)regarding the mandate, “the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status.”

      Furthermore, regarding the British Mandate, as approved by the Council of the League of Nations, the British government declared: “His Majesty’s Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State.” (Command Paper, 1922). This was reiterated in the 1939 White Paper.

      Hence, Article 80 of the UN Charter is utterly irrelevant.

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      • Denis Vulinovich  September 2, 2012 at 6:16 am

        David,

        The legitimacy of international agreements cannot be overturned simply because the mandatory (Britain, in this case)has a change of heart concerning the matter. They were under a legal obligation from the League of Nations to acts as a trustee (just like the trustee for a will) to help the Jews establish their own nation within the prescribed boundaries – from the Jordan to the Mediterranean. The failure of the British to fulfill that obligation is what has led to the current situation.

        Now if the League of Nations didn’t intend the ancestral homeland of the Jews to become a nation, then what exactly did they intend? The whole purpose of League of Nations mandates was to establish nations for people who at the time weren’t able to do it themselves.

        So should we also dissolve all the other nations that were established as a result of those mandates, such as Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Samoa, and New Guinea?

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 2, 2012 at 7:04 am

          There was no such “international agreement” as you are suggesting, and Britain didn’t have a change of heart concerning the matter. There was no such “legal obligation” from the League of Nations “to help the Jews establish their own nation … from the Jordan to the Mediterranean”. For more, I defer to my previous comment on San Remo.

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          • Denis Vulinovich  September 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm

            Jeremy,
            Your comment – “There was no such “legal obligation” from the League of Nations “to help the Jews establish their own nation … from the Jordan to the Mediterranean” – reveals that you probably don’t know much about the League of Nations Mandate system. I suggest you read about it further.

            One thing you repeatedly mention in your article is the Jew’s “illegal occupation” of Palestinian territories. How is it illegal?

            I’m from New Zealand, where the laws of the land are set by our national governing body, the Parliament. But on the international stage, laws are set by global bodies such as the United Nations Security Council, and its predecessor the League of Nations. The Mandate for Palestine was an act of international law that has never been revoked, and is supported by Article 80 of the UN Charter.

            As that act of international law gave the Jews the right to all the land from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean, how is their presence in that land illegal?

        • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 3:40 pm

          @ Denis: You are Slavic how is the Middle east your ancestral homeland?

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  23. anonymous  September 1, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Anonymous applauds the Central Intelligence Agency for making public what we have known for years.

    Israel is a hostile and dangerous entity which has brought nothing but disappointment, brutality and destabilization.

    It is no longer in the best interests of America, or indeed global Jewry to support this indefensible Rogue State any longer. We wish the very best of luck to President Obama and our diligent Intelligence agents in the coming time of upheaval.

    This was always going to happen.

    We do not Forgive

    We do not Forget

    Expect us

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  24. downtown dave  September 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    God gave the land of Israel to the Jews as an everlasting inheritance.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 1, 2012 at 3:29 pm

      Religious argument have no place here. However, even within that framework, I must point out that the Hebrews repeatedly violated their covenant with Yahweh.

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      • Jimmy  September 1, 2012 at 3:44 pm

        Jeremy – You are just awesome!

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        • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 3:44 pm

          I second that motion

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      • Umjibreel Malik  September 1, 2012 at 6:56 pm

        Thank you Mr.Hammond for your work. It is appreciated by those most affected by the zionist entity, and Americas unfortunate alliance with it. “Always speak the truth, though it may be displeasing.”

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    • Hadassah Gubermann  September 1, 2012 at 7:13 pm

      That’s just plain silly.

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  25. james storm  September 1, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Jeremy, three-quarters of a million Arab Palestinians were ethnically cleansed from Palestine?

    From the 1948 Israeli War of Independence, “Palestinian Arabs” have been sacrificed as pawns by all other Arab countries as they are to this day. No other Arab country has ever offered to accept any of these people into their own countries even though they are well able to do so. To the Arab countries and the rest of the anti-Semitic world, the “Palestinian Arabs” are useful only as a tool to exterminate Israel and the rest of the Jews in the Middle East. Otherwise, their welfare is of no concern to the rest of the Arab world.

    What about the ingrained notion that the Palestinians are fighting for their ancient homeland annexed by the Jews? The truth about this matter has been so deliberately obscured that even to raise the issue seems strange to many people.

    In the 1967 war, also known as the Six Day War, did Israel annex territory from a “Palestinian nation? No, Israel did not take a single inch of territory from Palestine. That is because there is not, nor has there ever been, a Palestinian nation. Israel captured the West Bank and Eastern Jerusalem from Jordan’s King Hussein and the Gaza Strip from Egypt, after they declared war against the Jewish State. It was only following the Six-day War in 1967 that Arab refugees living in these territories began identifying themselves as the “Palestinian People” because the global media labeled them as such. One cannot help but wonder why these Palestinians suddenly discovered a national identity after Israel won the war, but not during the “Jordanian Occupation” or the “Egyptian Occupation”?

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    • David  September 1, 2012 at 7:18 pm

      James Storm

      Reality:
      Between late 1947 and early 1949, Jewish forces and the IDF dispossessed and expelled 800,000 Palestinians (according to Walter Eytan, Director General of the Israeli Foreign Ministry), destroyed about 500 of their towns and villages (including churches, mosques and cemeteries) and seized 78% of Palestine. (400,000 Palestinians were driven out before the state of Israel was declared effective 15 May ’48 – e.g., 60,000 from Haifa in late April; 70,000 from Jaffa in early may and 60,000 from West Jerusalem in March and early May). Just before and during Israel’s first invasion of Egypt in 1956, a further 25,000-30,000 Palestinians were expelled as were an additional 250,000 during and after the war Israel launched on 5 June 1967.

      THE 1967 WAR
      At 7:45 AM on 5 June 1967, Israel attacked Egypt and thereby Jordan and Syria who each shared a mutual defense pact with Egypt. The attack took place just hours before Egypt’s VP was to fly to Washington for a prearranged June 7th meeting with the Johnson administration to defuse the crisis between Egypt and Israel based on an agreement worked out in Cairo between Nasser and Johnson’s envoy, Robert Anderson. In a cable sent to
      Johnson on May 30, Israel’s PM Eshkol promised not to attack Egypt until June 11 in order to give diplomacy a chance to succeed. However, on June 4, when it heard about the June 7th meeting and the distinct possibility that it would rule out war, Israel’s cabinet order its armed forces to attack Egypt the next day. In short, the war was another massive land grab by Israel.

      To wit:
      Prime Minister Menachem Begin, Minister without portfolio in Eshkol’s cabinet, while addressing Israel’s National Defence College on 8 August 1982: “In June, 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.” (New York Times, 21 August 1982)

      Prime Minister Eshkol: “The Egyptian layout in the Sinai and the general military buildup there testified to a military defensive Egyptian set-up, south of Israel.” (Yediot Aharonot, l8 October 1967)

      Meir Amit, chief of Israel’s Mossad: “Egypt was not ready for a war and Nasser did not want a war.” Mordechai Bentov, an Israeli cabinet minister at the time: “All this story about the danger of extermination [of Israel in June 1967] has been a complete invention and has been blown up a posteriori to justify the annexation of Arab territory.”

      Robert McNamara, U.S. Secretary of Defence: “Three separate intelligence groups had looked carefully into the matter [and] it was our best judgment that a UAR attack was not imminent.”

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      • Dahlia  September 1, 2012 at 11:58 pm

        “In short, the war was another massive land grab by Israel.”

        These Jews must be the worst colonialists in the history of the world.

        What did they “grab” in 1967? A desert with a few nomads in it?? And all that only to give the entire “enterprise” back in 1979?

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 2, 2012 at 7:13 am

          Ah, yes, a reiteration of the well-known theme, as declared by Zionist leader Chaim Weizmann in a letter to Lord Balfour in May 1918 of how the “present state of affairs would necessarily tend towards the creation of an Arab Palestine, if there were an Arab people in Palestine”; and from Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir’s later remark that, “It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.”

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          • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm

            Golda Meir later admitted to Alan Hart it was the most stupidest thing she had ever said.

    • David  September 1, 2012 at 7:35 pm

      James Storm

      For your further edification:

      The region between the Jordan River and the Med. Sea was first referred to as “Palestine” by the Greek historian Herodotus, “the father of history,” during the 5th century BCE.

      100 years later, in the mid-4th Century BCE, Aristotle made reference to the Dead Sea in his Meteorology. “Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine….”

      Jewish historian Josephus’s (c.37-100 CE)”The Jewish War, Antiquities of the Jews” contains copious references to both “Palestine” and “Palestinians.”

      To quote the renowned historian/anthropologist and “Holy Land” specialist, Professor Ilene Beatty: “When we speak of ‘Palestinians’ or of the ‘Arab population [of Palestine]’, we must bear in mind their Canaanite origin. This is important because their legal right to the country stems…from the fact that the Canaanites were first, which gives them priority; their descendants have continued to live there, which gives them continuity; and (except for the 800,000 dispossessed refugees [of 1948 along with the 25,000 expelled just prior to and during Israel’s first invasion of Egypt in 1956 and the additional more than 250,000 driven out during and after the war Israel launched on 5 June 1967]) they are still living there, which gives them present possession. Thus we see that on purely statistical grounds they have a proven legal right to their own land.” (“Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan,” 1957)

      When the Muslim Arabs arrived in Palestine in the 7th century CE (and liberated its Jewish population from Byzantine oppression, as they would do later in southern Spain by freeing the Jews from Catholic oppression), they retained the administrative organization of Palestine as it had been under the Romans and Byzantines and referred to it as Filastin (no “P” in Arabic). European tourist books of the nineteenth century refer to “Palestine,” as did Theodor Herzl in his correspondence as well as the 1917 Balfour Declaration and the League of Nations Class A British Mandate.

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      • sabasarge  September 1, 2012 at 8:34 pm

        “When we speak of ‘Palestinians’ or of the ‘Arab population [of Palestine]‘, we must bear in mind their Canaanite origin………”

        ROTFLMAO!
        There isn’t a SERIOUS historian or anthropologist that agrees with this.
        One more reason to laugh this site off as loony Jew haters.
        What a joke.

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        • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm

          Name one that does not! Every historian calls Palestinian people the indigenous people because that is what they are!

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 2, 2012 at 7:02 am

      Yes, James Storm, three-quarters of a million Arab Palestinians were ethnically cleansed from Palestine in order for the Zionists to create their demographically “Jewish state”.

      As for the ’67 war, every inch of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, is under international law “occupied Palestinian territory”.

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      • Dahlia  September 2, 2012 at 4:24 pm

        Nonsense.

        There has never been an independent Palestinian “nation”, therefore there could not be Palestinian land.
        Before 1948 the Jews purchased and owned approx 12% of land, there was and still is 5% Arab ownership and the rest was Government Mandate land.

        By the way, you answered none of my questions which proves beyond a doubt that you can’t.

        Now may be you could tell me what to do with the 850,000 Jews FORCEFULLY removed from the Arab countries at approx the same time, “wearing” their property. Ya think ya can find some stupid and credible excuse??

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 3, 2012 at 12:44 am

          The minority Jews owned only about 6% of the land and majority Arab Palestinians owned most of the rest of the land in the territory known as Palestine. The Zionists ethnically cleansed 750,000 Arab Palestinians from Palestine in order to create their demographically “Jewish state”.

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    • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm

      Independence from whom?

      Now some facts:
      “The BBC monitored all Middle Eastern broadcasts throughout 1948. The records, and companion ones by a United States monitoring unit, can be seen at the British Museum. There was not a single order or appeal, or suggestion about evacuation from Palestine, from any Arab radio station, inside or outside Palestine, in 1948. There is a repeated monitored record of Arab appeals, even flat orders, to the civilians of Palestine to stay put.” Erskine Childers, British researcher.

      Benny Morris, Israeli historian, went to special archives in Reading, England where the British had monitored every broadcast that was made in those days since 1936 and he found, as did Ilan Pappe, in fact they all know for sure NO such proof and no such call by Arabs for the Palestinians to flee. That is another Zionist Israeli propaganda myth.

      Benny Morris, the Israeli historian, in an interview with Haaretz: “In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves. A Jewish state would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population.”

      213 Palestinian village/towns (pop 413,794, 52% of refugees) were “cleansed” while under “protection” of British mandate; that is before start of Arab-Israeli war on May 15, 1948. 264 localities with 339,272 inhabitants (42%) were vacated during 1948 War. After signing Armistice Agreements, 54 localities were ethnically cleansed (52,001 people or 6% of refugees). Usually, the cleansing (“Nikayon,” a word used frequently in Zionist terrorist communications at the time) was initiated by massacres.

      According to Benny Morris & other Israeli historians, the reasons Palestinians left their localities were:
      1.Expulsion by Zionist ⁄ Jewish forces – 122 localities,
      2.Military assault by Zionist ⁄ Jewish forces – 270 localities,
      3. Fear of Zionist ⁄ Jewish attack, or of being caught in the fighting, influence of the fall of neighboring town, and psychological warfare – 12 localities,
      4. Abandonment on Arab orders – 6 localities,
      5. Unknown – 34 localities

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  26. bogu  September 1, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    siege warfare in the west bank

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/27/israel-palestinian-water-dispute

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  27. Umjibreel Malik  September 1, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Why is it always referred to as “Jew hatred” whenever anyone dares to speak out against the crimes of Israel? Israels actions only hurt the decent Jewish people, as much as militant Muslim actions hurt decent Muslims. It is time we evolve beyond that which we have allowed ourselves to become.

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    • Hadassah Gubermann  September 1, 2012 at 7:35 pm

      Thank you for articulating a very basic observation which most people miss. “Anti-Zionism” is not the same as “anti-Semitism.” It’s not a subtle distinction, but many people can’t seem to understand or even perceive it.

      I often find myself embarassed to be Jewish, as people assume I’m a Zionist. I consider Zionists the Nazis of our time: a “chosen” and “superior” people pursuing their racist agenda by any means, and damaging themselves in the process.

      Another basic truth people seem to miss (or ignore) is the presence of the Palestinians before the creation of Israel. Many Palestinians were (and sometimes are) nomads, with no set boundaries to their territories. A visitor’s saying that the land was “unoccupied” would have been ignorant and myopic. As many Palestinian families had been farming olives, dates, oranges, and livestock for generations, calling it “unoccupied” is further unsupportable.

      In many cases, the Zionists forced the Palestinians from their land and into concentration camps, and did not allow the farmers back on to their land. They simultaneously passed the “Non-Cultivation of Lands Act,” which allowed Zionists to “annex” the “abandoned” land.

      Not a very neat trick, nor one which inspires trust and/or respect. Please observe that one could switch out “Nazis” for “Zionists” and “Jews” for Palestinans in this account and it would still be true.

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      • Dahlia  September 2, 2012 at 1:18 am

        You are either a Neturei Karta drone or a fake Jew.

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        • Anonymous AntiZionist  September 2, 2012 at 4:23 am

          All Khazars are ‘fake Jews’ – including you!

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  28. David  September 1, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    In fact, even the mainstream press has been publishing reports that the “special relationship” between Israel and the US is deteriorating.

    To wit:

    Ha’aretz, 8 May 2009
    According to a high official with Israel’s government, the Obama administration “no longer seems to see Israel as a ‘special’ or ‘extraordinary’ state in the Middle East, with which the U.S. must maintain a different dialogue than with other states. ‘The feeling is that the dialogue and coordination with the Arab states and with Europe is today no less important to the U.S. and perhaps more so than with Israel,’ the official said.”

    The bombshell briefing by senior military officers to Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Michael Mullen in 2010. The team was dispatched by Commander General David Petraeus to brief the Pentagon on intelligence that Israeli intransigence in the peace process was jeopardizing American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and America was perceived as weak, ineffectual, and unable to stand up to Israel.

    Ha’aretz, January 13, 2012:
    “‘Israel is supposed to be working with us, not against us,’” Foreign Policy quoted an [American] intelligence officer as saying. ‘If they want to shed blood, it would help a lot if it was their blood and not ours. You know, they’re supposed to be a strategic asset. Well, guess what? There are a lot of people now, important people, who just don’t think that’s true.’”

    Ha’aretz, July 28, 2012
    “Former U.S. officials say CIA considers Israel to be Mideast’s biggest spy threat”

    EXCERPT:

    “…despite statements from U.S. politicians trumpeting the friendship, U.S. national security officials consider Israel to be, at times, a frustrating ally and a genuine counterintelligence threat.

    “In addition to what the former U.S. officials described to AP as intrusions in homes in the past decade, Israel has been implicated in U.S. criminal espionage cases and disciplinary proceedings against CIA officers and blamed in the presumed death of an important spy in Syria for the CIA during the administration of President George W. Bush.

    “The CIA considers Israel its No. 1 counterintelligence threat in the agency’s Near East Division, the group that oversees spying across the Middle East, according to current and former officials.”

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  29. hinckleybuzzard  September 1, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    Since Mr Lamb spent much of 2007 enjoying the hospitality of Palestinian terrorists while being properly indoctrinated in one of their “refugee” camps (Nahr al-Bared), it is not surprising to see anti-Jewish hate masquerading as commentary and even spread among non-Jewish advocates of Israeli sovereignty. On the credibility scale from 1 to 10, this screed rates about 1.2.

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  30. DavidLS  September 2, 2012 at 3:39 am

    I am not a big fan of Bill Clinton…except when PLO dearleader Yassar Arafat claimed at Camp David that the Jews had no claim to Israel…President Clinton pulled a historical reference book from the shelf and turned to the Arch of Titus…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_of_Titus which showed : The south panel depicts the spoils taken from the Temple in Jerusalem. The Golden Candlestick or Menorah is the main focus and is carved in deep relief. Other sacred objects being carried in the triumphal procession are the Silver Trumpets and the Table of Shew bread.[2] These spoils were originally gilded with gold, with the background in blue.[2]

    ’bout 70 A.D. not CE
    …Nuff said.

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    • sabasarge  September 2, 2012 at 3:51 am

      David, don’t you know better by now not to bring facts to the table here…..silly you!

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    • Anonymous AntiZionist  September 2, 2012 at 4:30 am

      And what would that have to do with the current specious claims and land-theft of the usurping Israeli Khazars, the ‘Ashkenazim’, a Turkic people who were much later converts to Judaism?

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      • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 3:48 pm

        Precisely. In a word: ZILCH

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  31. jerry  September 2, 2012 at 4:36 am

    Re: Jeremy Hammond’s perpetual meme: instead of addressing the fact that the Zionists ethnically cleansed three quarters of a million Arabs from the territory known at the time as Palestine in order to create their “Jewish state”.”

    I am certain that Mr. Hammond is aware of the ethnic cleansing by Muslim countries of their Jews. Over half the population of Israel hails from Teheran, Baghdad, Cairo, etc. and amounted to close to one-million men, women and children. Had these countries been benign in their treatment of their Jews, Israel would have half the population it has today. It is the hatred of the Muslims that has strengthened Israel. Remember that the next time you open your stupid mouth.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 2, 2012 at 7:11 am

      Is that a tacit acknowledgment of the fact that the Zionists ethnically cleansed three quarters of a million Arab Palestinians from Palestine?

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    • Mike Thompson  September 2, 2012 at 11:10 am

      The Balfour Declaration included to proviso “It being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine”. Ignored by Zionists and supporters of Israel then as now!

      Iran has some 30,000 Jews, who have guaranteed representation in Iran`s Parliament, they all prefer to live, and worship, in Iran, despite the $60,000 offered to every Iranian Jew by Israel, as an inducement to emigrate to that Country.

      I have often wondered how supportive US citizens would be of Israel, if it were a land of Druids!

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  32. Jerome Von Phifer  September 2, 2012 at 5:28 am

    The truth is that Israel knows its mortality vis-a-vis Iran by sheer geography, I live in a county called Maricopa in Arizona that is 1200 square miles larger than Israel, a county mind you, Iran is two thirds the size of the U.S., it will take maybe two Hiroshima sized nukes to completely Erase all of Israel. How many for Iran????, a first strike by Iran and there will be no response, and if the U.S. supports Israel, our soldiers, ships and bases in the Middle east will be at risk, and think about this if the Saudi and Iraq oil fields are hit with nukes and radiated, the oil will be useless forever. Now sleep on that.

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  33. US Taxpayer  September 2, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    I’m tired of seeing my tax dollars being given to the most corrupt, murderous police state in the world. Israel will start WWIII and get us ALL killed.

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    • Anonymous AntiZionist  September 2, 2012 at 1:56 pm

      You’re absolutely right! See ‘The Plan For Three World Wars’ on the ‘net, the infamous letter from Albert Pike to Mazzini in the late 1800’s, telling him that three world wars had been planned – the third between the Jews and Muslims in the Middle East would be so horrific that the world would cry out for disarmament and world government. The Talmudic Khazars, so besotted with the idea of their own ‘superiority’ and their goal of grabbing a ‘Greater Israel’, are enthusiastically advancing this. These Turkic converts to Judaism have no more right to claim the land of Israel than a bunch of Japanese converts to Judaism would have, but again and again they try to pursuade us that it was THEIR ancestors who lived there 2,000 years ago. Liars and thieves, and bloodthirsty to boot!

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  34. Arthur Borges  September 2, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Long overdue conclusions but deserving of a warm welcome: overhaul into a viable one-state solution is in Everyone’s best _long-term_ interests.

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  35. QTmcwhiskers  September 2, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    All of this is academic posturing… The UN and League of nations has always been a joke. Throughout all history only power has made an action legal or illegal. Did the Romans worry about legality when they conquered most of Europe? Oh they had debates in the senate for sure, and that little dust up with Caesar over illegal warfare in Gaul, but overall history has shown that if a nation has the power to take land they will do so, and damn the legalities… even AGAINST the dictates of thier own religion. The Jews wants a home, they take Israel/Palestine or whatever. The Arabs fight back, and lose and lose and lose and lose, but keep fighting, believing that they HAVE to win sometime, and only have to win once. Meanwhile the Israelis spy on us and manipulate our political processes for their own gain. Our evengelicals support them, others don’t blah blah blah. And the author of this site and those that accuse him of “Jew Hatred” are simply spouting propaganda from both sides. Do I have a hate on for Israel? Nope. Do I have a hate on for Arabs? Nope. I’m not to keen on Muslim religious practices and some middle eastern cultural practices make ma a little queasy, but what another culture does in their homeland is their business. I also don’t enjoy ‘jewish’ or ‘zionist’ or ‘israeli’ meddling in our political process, though I can’t say I blame them, we allow it to happen and set up our political process that way. If the USSR had won the cold war, the Israeli’s would be in Moscow trying to find a way to get support for Israel. The BLUF is, the Israeli’s won the wars, the Israeli’s annexed it and the Palestinians have to deal with that until they can find a way to win a war. IMHO, the best possible outcome would be for the Israeli’s to find a way to stand on their own without US aid (because we are likely to be bankrupt in a few years anyway) and find a decent solution to living within a greater islamic middle east, but I seriously doubt that because #1 too much blood has been spilled #2 islam is incompatible with Democratic or parlimentary or republican or hell ANY kind of rule that isn’t SHaria, and #3 because the Israelis will NEVER live in a nation where they don’t control their own destinies. (ever heard of the samson option?) So, in a few years when the US withdraws from the mid-east and the new arab caliphate forged from the remnants of the countries that were toppled during the arab spring close in, you’ll probably find Mecca, medina, Baghdad, Jerusalem, Tel aviv, Cairo, Damascus and Amman to be nearly indistiguishable pools of fused glass.

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  36. Anonymous AntiZionist  September 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    None of this is really surprizing – it fits the devious Zionist mindset perfectly. Read “Zionism In The Age Of The Dictators”, by Lenni Brenner (Zionism’s close pre-war cooperation with the Nazis to steal Palestine); “The Nameless War”, by Captain Ramsay and “The Controversy Of Zion” by Douglass Reed and you’ll understand the murderous Khazar ‘imitation Jew’ mindset much more clearly. All of these books are now freely available to read and download from the ‘net (try archive.org or just Google them). And for more on the Khazars and their conversion to Judaism and bogus ‘claims’ to Israel, read “The Thirteenth Tribe” by Arthur Koestler.

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  37. Marvin Howell  September 2, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Israel’s land is Israel’s! History many times over shows that it is the nature of man to increase his territory at the expense of others. The giant continents of the America’s were taken by the English, French and Spanish! So, according to you Arabs, those of Incan, Mayan and American Indian decent should be killing and removing the non endogenous populations from the tip of South America to the top of Canada and all of the Islands in between. Get real! Israel is a tiny speck of real estate. Leave them alone! They will kick your a$$ as they have done since their inception.

    The title of the article is an absolute joke. I am a Protestant American and I will stand with my Jewish brothers with my last breath. By the grace of the 2nd Amendment of the American Constitution, as a nation, we are armed beyond your wildest imagination. As a people, we are quickly learning that the political correctness as inflicted upon us by the Obama party of cowards, socialist and anti-American’s is not correctness but stupidity. Where American Marines are punished for urinating on bodies of muslim enemies who behead innocent men and women who do not share their beliefs. We are growing very, very tired of muslims period!

    It is not Israel that will vanish. It is the enemy of Israel that will vanish!

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    • Anonymous AntiZionist  September 3, 2012 at 1:33 am

      Marvin, it’s sad to see that you are brainwashed and proud of it. You are defending criminals, liars and thieves. They brutally stole another people’s country and dispossessed them. They are NOT the descendants of the Old Testament Jews (they are Khazars, a Turkic people who converted to Judaism and moved into Russia and Eastern Europe). They have no right to that land and they pose more of a threat to Americ a than the Arabs ever will!

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  38. jerry  September 2, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    I see that my comment about Jewish refugees from Arab countries has been “cleansed” from the comments. How telling is that!

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  39. Adnan Hamid  September 2, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    SABASARGE……
    You are nothing but a real idiot. OH I stand corrected, you are not an idiot, but a moron who still repeats the same old dirty zionist song and dance that no body listens to anymore.
    The zionist terrorists of yesteryear tried very hard to distort the whole history Of glorious PALESTINE, which was one of the most prosperous areas in the whole middle east, and not a desert with no people, as you dirtbags claim.
    The Zionist lie is over…. MORON.

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    • sabasarge  September 2, 2012 at 11:28 pm

      It must be very hard for an anti-Semitic fool such as yourself to see a vibrant JEWISH Nation thriving, while the (so-called) palestinians continue to choke on their hatred. Call me what you want, but the truth remains, we’ll keep thriving (and continuing to help humanity with our inventions) while you and your friends will continue to wish you’d have taken up the offer in 1947.
      Too late now chump. Too bad you hated us more than you wanted a country.
      The only ethnic cleansing done in these parts are the Jews and every other religion in the Arab countries that have been conquered and colonized….which by the way is every single arab country other than Arabia.
      Should’ve stayed there.

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      • Adnan Hamid  September 3, 2012 at 12:12 am

        Sabasarge….
        Brag all you want.Most of the world knows that no help from a zionist state will come to humanity if there was no price attached.So, please no bleeding hearts.
        The fact remains that your technolgy is stolen from the US and other advanced countries. You give nothing for nothing.
        Again, here I see in you another Zionist( Notice I did not say Jew), because Islam respected and protected all religions and you know it.
        Distort all you want, but Israel is being discovered and the biggest sham of a country, that was illegally grabbed after all the well documented massacres by you zionist gangs.
        So, all rational and just people in the realize do not buy your zionist garbage anymore.GAME OVER.

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      • Anonymous AntiZionist  September 3, 2012 at 1:25 am

        ‘Thriving’ with untold billions of dollars extorted in ‘aid’ by your US co-religinists from the USA each year and a massive flow of fake ‘reparations’ from the German people. Israel ‘thrives’ because it is a leech state! It lives off the money it extorts from the gentile nations.

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  40. harry moldovan  September 2, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    I don’t hear any mention of the hundreds of thousands of Jewish people who were evicted from their homes in the Arab countries. The people in Israel are neither saints nor sinners, just people who for the mostpart, are trying to have a home.

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    • Anonymous AntiZionist  September 3, 2012 at 1:40 am

      Just like the Palestinians were ‘trying to have a home’ before the thieving Zionists came and stole their country from them!

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  41. harry moldovan  September 2, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    I dont’ hear anymention of the hundreds of thousands of Jews who were evicted from their homes in the Arab countries

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    • Blake  September 2, 2012 at 9:49 pm

      Despite being cheap political point scoring by Ashkenaz Jews and mostly untrue(Arab jews say as much, who you racists call the derogatory word kooshim) it had nothing to do with the Palestinians.

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    • Jack Smith  September 3, 2012 at 2:01 am

      Harry Moldovan, it’s downright Christian of you to remember “the hundreds of thousands of Jews that were evicted from their homes in Arab countries”.

      Do you also remember the 60 million Russian Christians that were murdered by Bolshevik Jews.

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      • Swiss chocolate  September 6, 2012 at 6:51 am

        Where have you taken this ” historical fact” from? Something like Chess Goebels Propaganda.

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    • Moshe  September 4, 2012 at 9:19 am

      Where’s your data? Did you know Jews and Christians in Iran are treated quite well for example?
      Send your own kids to fight for those lies, idiot.

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    • Robert  September 4, 2012 at 12:19 pm

      Harry, those expelled Jews need to take up their issue of expulsion with those countries.

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    • Imed Chihi  September 4, 2012 at 7:29 pm

      Dear Mr Moldovan,

      Assuming that mass expulsions did take place, have you wondered why they started in 1948 precisely? The creation of “the state of Israel” has brought enmity between the native Jews and Arabs. It was a purely political project which benefited a few at the expense of the peace and cohabitation of millions of others.

      ..not to mention that some of the “immigrations” were triggered by malicious fabrications: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950%E2%80%931951_Baghdad_bombings
      -Imed

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    • Irwin Graulich  September 5, 2012 at 1:58 pm

      All of Israel, parts of Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran also belong to the Jews. Every time the Muslims start a war with tiny little Israel, they lose more and more land. This is how God works to give back the land of the Bible to the Jews.

      If the US did not intervene to stop Israel in the 1973 war, Damascus and Cairo would now be part of Israel. Did you see how a large part of the Egyptian army of 400,000 soldiers were crying and surrendering to a few thousand Jewish soldiers in 1973. It was pathetic watching the Arab armies with their hands in the air and the big white flags, begging the Israelis on their hands and knees not to hurt them.

      Nasrallah called the war in Lebanon a victory, yet Beirut looked like Hiroshima after Israel left. An Arab victory means that there is one Arab left. Hopefully, the pathetic Muslim countries will keep fighting with Israel, (Iran–you are next) and then most of the Middle East will belong to the Jews…and gas will be 99 cents a gallon. God Bless Israel and America.

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      • arthurdecco  September 27, 2012 at 7:00 am

        Irwin Graulich @ September 5, 2012 at 1:58 pm

        “All of Israel, parts of Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran also belong to the Jews…”

        No they don’t. Those lands belong to the people who live there.

        And then you went on:

        “If the US did not intervene to stop Israel in the 1973 war, Damascus and Cairo would now be part of Israel. Did you see how a large part of the Egyptian army of 400,000 soldiers were crying and surrendering to a few thousand Jewish soldiers in 1973. It was pathetic watching the Arab armies with their hands in the air and the big white flags, begging the Israelis on their hands and knees not to hurt them.”

        What was pathetic was watching the Israelis MURDER soldiers who had already laid down their arms in surrender. The Israeli army was confirmed that day as brutal, psychotic murderers – a reputation they have only built on since with their continued assaults on unarmed women and children.

        And then you gloated:

        “Nasrallah called the war in Lebanon a victory, yet Beirut looked like Hiroshima after Israel left. An Arab victory means that there is one Arab left. Hopefully, the pathetic Muslim countries will keep fighting with Israel, (Iran–you are next) and then most of the Middle East will belong to the Jews…God Bless Israel and America.”

        So Beirut looked like Hiroshima after Israel left…and that was a good thing?!?!?

        Irwin, you are a “Poster Boy” for Psychotic Hate-Filled Monsters from anywhere. You just happen to be a particularly odious Jewish version – a version the rest of us sane people seem to be inundated with these last few years. In fact, I’ve noticed you’ve got almost a whole fake country filled with bat-turd crazy versions of yourself, haven’t you? …if Israeli poll results can be trusted to be accurate, that is…

        Please crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of before you started lying about everything here on this site. No one needs any more proof of your utter lack of honesty, good sense and upright morality. You’ve laid your inner workings bare for everyone to see in your post.

        One reading of your opinions was all I needed to realize that you are a sick, twisted husk of a human – not worth the food it takes to sustain you.

        phhtttt!

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  42. jerry  September 2, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    You folks can support the coming Caliphate by pressuring Israel or you can utilize Israel as a wedge into the Muslim world that will bring about change that will permit coexistence.

    As we write, Arabs and Israelis are asleep in their own homes in Israel, including Samaria and Judea. They work together, eat together, study together, share the same commercial and recreational facilities. This peace, that is admittedly imperfect, you would disturb and make the Muslim world monolithic. Israel is the world’s last best hope for Muslims to outgrow Islam’s worst qualities. Don’t screw the world just because you do not like Jews!

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    • Adnan Hamid  September 2, 2012 at 11:59 pm

      Jerry…..As much as your garbage propaganda makes sensse to you, it is nothing but the lies and misinformation that had been fedd to you. This misinformation was tried on the rest of the world, but failed.

      Your throwing in the “hate” word of the Jews does not work.
      Islam was and remains the only true religion for all of humanity and remains that way since 1433 years, and has not changed or bent despite all the attempts made to dostort it and give it a bad name.
      The proof is in the hundreds of thousands of converts in the western word who saw Islam once they have been exposed to it with an open mind and open heart.
      Iam not trying to ask you to convert, because I assume you much more about your own religion and its distortions and hatred of anything or anybody who does not follow it.
      Finally(historical fact). If it was not for the Islamic armies offering safety and protection, they would have been no Jews in the whole middle eastern region.Also, go back and check Israels history of the terrorist actions against Jews themselves to force to immigrate to Israel from Other Arab countries.If you deny these historical facts, then you are living in a vaccum or in a closed world of your own.
      Good luck.

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      • SCB  September 5, 2012 at 4:42 am

        Just remember this… Israel will be here for Christ’s return and for the millennial kingdom. So if you want to try your best to eliminate Israel, you go right ahead. In fact, I know you will try. For your own benefit, I strongly suggest you read Ezekiel 38 and 39, Daniel 12 and Psalm 83 before you take this leap of faith in your god and your human abilities.

        As you watch your nations take these leaps of faith, follow along through these passages and just remember SCB told you so…

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 5, 2012 at 6:28 am

          Woe to you, hypocrite! You invoke the scriptures to justify Zionist repression and theft of Palestinian land, but you ignore the broken covenant with Yahweh!

          “You shall therefore keep all My statutes and all My judgments, and perform them, that the land where I am bringing you to dwell may not vomit you out.” (Leviticus 20:22)

          “But if you do not obey Me, and do not observe all these commandments … but break My covenant … I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it. I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you; your land shall be desolate and your cities waste … You shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.” (Leviticus 26: 14, 15, 32-33, 28)

          “Therefore Yahweh was very angry with Israel, and removed them from His sight; there was none left but the tribe of Judah alone…. So Israel was carried away from their own land to Assyria, as it is to this day.” (2 Kings 17:18, 23)

          “And I said, after [Israel] had done all these things, ‘Return to Me.’ But she did not return. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it. Then I saw that for all the causes for which backsliding Israel had committed adultery, I had put her away and given her a certificate of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear, but went and played the harlot also.” (Jeremiah 3: 7-8)

          Woe to you, hypocrite! You invoke the scriptures to justify Zionist repression and theft of Palestinian land, but you have neglected the more important matters of the law.

          “You shall not murder.” (Exodus 20:13)

          “You shall not steal.” (Exodus 20:15)

          “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house … nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” (Exodus 20:17)

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        • iesa  September 5, 2012 at 6:33 pm

          your all wrong,,, you owe all your religions to the oldest recorded origional spiritual religion of the aryan druids of aria land (ireland)the bible you accept as scripture, ha ha,,is a roman church empire copy of the old irish bible,do your homework,, hebrew is an irish word.. and the language is old irish.. the old land is ireland and the seat is tara.(would i remind you of a group of official israelis that came to tara to find the arc of the covenent) CHECK OUT conor macdari. it will give you some food for thought. or are you afraid of the thruth. or to quote another fellow spiritual irishman,, “where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to put one wise:

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    • Bob Roberts  September 3, 2012 at 12:17 am

      jerry – wise and reasonable words, yet look at what response you get from Adnan Hamid – a hate and propaganda filled rant which accuses YOU of repeating garbage, propaganda, lies and misinformation.

      Though you never once mentioned HATE he did and falsely accuses you of doing so.

      And as for “closed mind”, here is a quote from his rant:

      “Islam was and remains the only true religion for all of humanity”

      In fact Islam was a result of what I refer to as the original televangelist. For example, look at modern day televangelists – they establish universities or theme parks, timeshare operations and other things which are designed to encourage religious pilgrimage in order to line the pockets of those same televangelists.

      Isn’t that what Mohammed (curses upon him and his name) did? Isn’t it an actual requirement for Moslems to do their best to travel at least once if not annually to Mecca and other “holy” sites?

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      • Mannstein  September 3, 2012 at 2:22 am

        How would you like it if at 2:00 o’clock in the morning while sleeping with your family a bulldozer came and destroyed your home? This is what Palestinians face in the West bank day in and day out. Or how would you like to wait for hours on end at an Israeli Army check point to go from one part of your country to the next. This is what Palestinians have to put up with day in and day out. That is fact on the ground not propaganda and no amount of spin about the so called holocaust nor Jewish victimhood can justify what is happening in Palestine.

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        • dannykid  September 5, 2012 at 3:17 pm

          Are you also concerned that Hamas, in Gaza, is demolishing hundreds of homes of their fellow Arab citizens because they were “illegally” built on “government” land? And when those houses are demolished, what are they replaced with? Why, grand villas for the boys, what else?

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        • Sam  September 8, 2012 at 1:47 am

          Why didn’t you explain that bulldozer was actually used to destroy homes of terrorists that killed peaceful Israelis?

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          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 8, 2012 at 7:45 am

            Ah, defining Palestinian civilians as “terrorists”. The usual.

      • Blake  September 5, 2012 at 12:58 am

        Bob Roberts: Wonder what name is going to be on your tombstone. It won’t be Bob Roberts that’s for sure. Anywho, Palestinians are not the ones occupying your lands and terrorizing your people into submission. 64 years of that! So please the hate is all one sided and it ain’t from the Palestinian side!

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    • Adnan Hamid  September 3, 2012 at 12:18 am

      Jerry…. You are giving us nothing but more Israeli lies.
      ISRAEL IS ONLY A DEMOCRACY FOR JEWS.JUSTICE IS ONLY FOR JEWS, SOCIAL SERVICES ARE ONLY FOR JEWS.
      ISRAEL IS NOTHING BUT A RACIST APARTHEID STATE, AND THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THAT.
      ARABS AND ISRAELIS DO NOT DO WHAT YOU CALIM.
      THE ONLY INTERACTION THAT ACTUALLY TAKES PLACE IS WHEN YOU COWARDLY ARMY FACES KIDS. THERE ARE AMILLION DOCUMENTED PICTURES OF THAT.
      THIS ONLY SHOW YOU A PALESTINIAN CHILD COURAGEOUSLY FACES A HEAVILY ARMED COWARD ISRAELI SOLDIER. This by itself tells of what is to come.. hope you will be around to witness.Game over liers.

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      • Abu Abu  September 3, 2012 at 12:34 am

        Adnan,
        The judge who sentenced the ex-president of Israel to a jail term was an Arab.

        How does that fit into your anti-Jewish, anti-Israel screed?

        You may want to do a bit more fact checking of your own.

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        • Israel S.  September 3, 2012 at 5:55 am

          Abu Abu: “Anti-Jewish”. “Anti-Israel”. I was wandering for years when AIPAC, the employer of you and your numerous colleagues would command you to avoid the use of the fighting word “Antisemite”.

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      • jerry  September 3, 2012 at 10:53 am

        You’ve got an agenda! It keeps you from considering other points of view. Too bad! It’s people like you that cause wars.

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    • Anonymous  September 4, 2012 at 4:05 pm

      What’s wrong with a monolithic Middle East? What was wrong with a monolithic Europe? Jews like Barbara Lerner Specter and the ADL push diversity for ALL European-descended countries so much that you get the impression that they object to the existence of a white majority anywhere on the planet, but then don’t say a word about internment of Africans in Israel.

      The “do as I say not as I do” hypocrisy is getting too hard to ignore.

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  43. frankinnc  September 2, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    Propping up Israel is a useless waste of time and only makes the world hate us(Americans) even more. It’s time for Israelis to pack up and move out. You tried, you failed, so move on. We need to stop kidding ourselves: There’s no hope for Israel’s long term survival because all of the middle-east despises them. Give up already! There are countries all over the world that will allow you to emigrate.

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    • jerry  September 3, 2012 at 2:02 pm

      Unless you are a Muslim, you too will have to find another place – like Mars or the Moon. Frankly, the only logical choices are to support Israel or become a Muslim. Take your pick.

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      • Pavelina  September 4, 2012 at 1:54 am

        Thank you. Stated succinctly and accurately. That’s what it will boil down to in the future (after I’m dead, I hope) when Islam rules the world, — unless all Muslim immigration to the West is stopped. They have a way of winning.

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    • Blake  September 5, 2012 at 1:05 am

      Jerry: ALL civilized human beings no matter their persuasion do not support “Israel”. It’s that simple. I am not going to waste any more time on you.

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      • jerry  September 7, 2012 at 12:50 pm

        You must live under a rock. I am not going to waste anymore of my time with you! The Jews are the cradle of civilization and you are primitive in your use of the word “all”! “All” does not exist in the world except in arithmetic.

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        • arthurdecco  September 27, 2012 at 7:21 am

          “The Jews are the cradle of civilization.”

          Uhmmm…no they’re not. No remotely. But one thing Jews can take the credit for is the fact that they are the original propagandists – self-promoting liars since the beginning of their recorded fake history.

          The cradles of civilization were their more cultured middle eastern neighbours and then the Egyptians, Greeks, Chinese, Scandinavians and Western Europeans. Not a Jew amongst them.

          Jews never invented anything worth knowing beyond their incredible ability to re-write history self-servingly. And even during their “based on a true story” bible-writing days they could only brag about their preference for plunder and murder.

          Just like right now.

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    • Nilimel  September 5, 2012 at 10:38 pm

      Well then, ‘Anonymous’, if you don’t mind having a monolythic Middle East and Israel, thanks to folks like you supporting the islamist fascism agenda with quickly appeasement, will finally be made judenrein, then I hope you have in the meantime orgainzed a burqa for your girlfriend/wife and registered your children in quran school. The only consequence of your nice nice pragmatism is that not one western country will survive after Israel’s fall…

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  44. jedson  September 2, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    Is this report available anywhere? If this is true it represents a major shift in US policy — or at least a major conflict among the 1%.

    jedson

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  45. Bob Roberts  September 3, 2012 at 12:11 am

    I keep seeing mention of Israel as “belligerent” and “oppressive”, yet these labels would be more accurately applied to Islamists, Arabs and the so-called “palestinians”.

    How, exactly, does one justify calling Israel “belligerent”?

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  46. Mannstein  September 3, 2012 at 2:30 am

    How about the IDF dropping white phosphor munitions and bombs on Palestinian civilians which the last time I checked is a war crime? Is that belligerent enough for you?

    Maybe you are one of these right wing nut jobs that claim Palestinians don’t exist like Newt Gingridge or Rick Santorum.

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    • David Ish Shalom  September 5, 2012 at 9:40 pm

      Since 1917 the Israelis were willing to compromise with the “Palestinians” but always got a total rejection. Israel always and even now was ready to sacrifice so much of its smallest territory compared to a match box in a foothball field to the Arab territories. But Palestinian prime drive was the dedtruction of the state of Israel and genosiding its Jewish inhabitants from the initial days. Remember their first leader Haj Amin el Husseini an ardent fan of Hitler and the Final Solution. for your education sea a brief of The Palestinian National covenant core articles: ARTICLE 15: The liberation of all Palestine… is a national duty to repulse the Zionist, imperialist invasion from the great Arab homeland and to purge the Zionist presence from Palestine from the river to the sea. ARTICLE 19: The partitioning of Palestine in 1947 and the establishment of Israel is fundamentally null and void,.. ARTICLE 20: // Jews are not one people with an independent personality, they are rather citizens to the state to which they belong. ARTICLE 21: The Palestinian Arab people…, rejects every solution that is a substitute for a complete liberation of Palestine. The Arab territories are 6000 times biger than whole Israel and all the brainwashed ignorants blaming the victim instead of calling the terrorists what they are.

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      • Jeremy R. Hammond
        Jeremy R. Hammond  September 6, 2012 at 12:07 am

        Nonsense. You define “compromise” as permitting Palestinians to keep some of their own land in a framework of rejection of the right of the majority inhabitants who owned most of the land to self-determination. Palestine was not partitioned in 1947, and there was no legal basis for the Zionists unilateral declaration of the existence of the state of Israel. The Arabs wanted recognition of their independence and proposed a democratic state with a constitution guaranteeing and protecting the rights of the Jewish minority and guaranteeing them representation in the legislative assembly. The Zionists rejected the democratic solution, rejected the right to self-determination of the Arabs, and turned to violence and ethnically cleansed Palestine of three quarters of a million of its indigenous inhabitants.

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      • rachel in jerusalem  September 9, 2012 at 7:14 pm

        Thank you for your sane and historically correct comments, David Ish Shalom. I am astounded at the level of ignorance of most of the commenters herein. Do you think they know they’re been brainwashed?

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  47. Dave  September 3, 2012 at 7:57 am

    ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

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    • Pavelina  September 4, 2012 at 1:57 am

      You are so smart! I need a friend like you who has figured the situation out and states it so well.

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      • Blake  September 5, 2012 at 1:06 am

        Palestine for the Palestinians, not eastern Europeans. Basic common sense.

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        • Sam  September 8, 2012 at 1:56 am

          There is no nation called “Palestinians”. These are arabs, period. Learn the history.

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          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 8, 2012 at 7:46 am

            There is also no nation called “Americans” or “Israelis”, which, as a student of history, you must surely know.

  48. SLA-mdunk  September 3, 2012 at 8:24 am

    Interesting to see if Obama or Netanyahu will be the US president, because if Romney wins, Netanyahu will rule.

    SLA-mdunk in Oz.

    Get your PM phyz.

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    • jerry  September 3, 2012 at 10:48 am

      If Netanyahu ran for US President, Americans of both parties would elect him in a heartbeat.

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  49. David Judah  September 3, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    This article makes me laugh. Israel…..we are going no where, we occupy our homeland, our promised land. Cry and moan, weep together, because you cannot destroy or move us. One small nation stand against many nations, through war, yet Israel remains…..weep for the destruction of the earth, but not for Israel.

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    • Seanoamericano  December 13, 2013 at 5:52 am

      Waging war against civilians and being a true welfare state not to mention hiding behind America is nothing to brag about and is in no way a threat to anyone.

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  50. dannykid  September 3, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    The three concluding paragraphs do not make sense. “Interestingly, it notes Iran as an example of a country and people that have much in common and whose citizens have a real interest in enjoy bilateral associations (here an apparent reference to Israel and its US lobby) not determined by the wishes of other countries and their agents”. This is barely English. A translation from Arabic by someone for who English is not a mother tongue maybe? It sounds like one of Amadogofjihad’s or Assad’s rambling gibberish speeches. Judging by the language, the poor grammar and content, just like The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion, it’s a HOAX

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  51. dannykid  September 3, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    Hamid, I cannot remain silent while you wax lyrical about islam being the answer, bringing peace to a troubled world while Israel is the evil warmonger.
    Iran-Iraq war 1980s – muslims kill 1,000,000 muslims. Israel?
    Sudan civil war since 1983 – muslims kill 2,000,000 muslims and christians. Israel?
    Somalia since 1991 – muslims kill 450,000 to 1.5 million muslims. Israel?
    Darfur 2009 – muslims kill 400,000 muslims. Israel?
    Iraq-Kuwait war 1990 – muslims kill thousands of muslims. Israel?
    Iraq civil war from 2005 – muslims kill over one hundred thousand muslims (still killing). Israel?
    Lebanon civil war from 1970s – muslims kill 220,000 muslims and Christians. Israel?
    Afghanistan civil war from 1980s – muslims kill up to 3,000,000 muslims (still killing). Israel?
    Syria civil war from 2011 – muslims kill 20,000 muslims (still killing). Israel?
    Since WWII, Muslims have been killing muslims at an average rate of 3,000 per week. Israel?
    Meantime, muslim deaths by Israelis in Gaza and West bank since 1948: less than 10,000 (see Palestinian Centre for Human Rights – Gaza). That’s average 3 per week.

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  52. Liz  September 3, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    This “article” is a catalogue of all the desired results of anti-Israel propaganda. It’s a catalogue of the feckless cowardice and stupidity that underlies U.S.foreign policy in the Middle East. It’s a rodmap to the hell that awaits all Western nations that think getting rid of Israel will keep them safe from the Islamofascist goal of destroying the West from within. Here is what disgusts me most about those who believe and support what this author asserts: the self-centered arrogance and shameless dishonesty at the bottom of it all. These people are arrogant enough to believe that in the sixty or seventy years since WW II, they have overcome fifteen centuries of the embedded Jew-hating culture that led to Hitler’s war on the Jews in the first place. They buy, hook-line-and-sinker, every cockamamie fantasy the Arabs have come up with to nullify long-standing, legal and binding international agreements based on what the world had known for thirty centuries–that Israel/Palestine was the homeland of one People only; the Jews–but they insist their support of those lies, and the violence perpetrated to enforce them, is rooted in a search for justice and human rights for those who spread the lies and violent hatred all around the world. The West needs Arab oil and wants Muslim markets to hawk their products. But oil-producing nations need to sell their oil as much as we need to buy it. It is greed, laziness and cowardice that underlies a foreign policy formulated on the stupidity catalogued in this FP article. Many have recognized the mistakes of the past in blaming and condemning the Jews as the cause of its problems. Sadly, much of the world remains as stupid as ever on the Jews, and are choosing to play out the same old story.

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    • rachel in jerusalem  September 9, 2012 at 7:22 pm

      Thank you for your sane and historically correct comments, Danny kid and Liz. I am astounded at the level of ignorance of most of the commenters herein. Do you think they know they’re been brainwashed?

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  53. Denis Vulinovich  September 3, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Franklin,

    It looks like you have a reputation for quoting “unsubstantiated” reports:

    http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news/iran-uses-fake-cia-report-kill-israel

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  54. Lani Mann  September 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Thank you to Danny Kid for his roster of Muslims killing Muslims… which they are not supposed to do, according to the Q’ran.

    WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, EVER, IS A MAP SHOWING THE MIDDLE EAST IN ITS ENTIRETY. ISRAEL BARELY SHOWS, IT IS SO TINY ! Its name usually appears in the Meidterranean, because it does not fit into its tiny space on most globes or maps. The entire problem of Arabs historically hating the Jews was exacerbated by the giant Arab nations not letting in the few Arabs who voluntarily chose to leave Israel when it was formed, instead of staying there as full citizens, as they were offered. Many of those who stayed are now serving in the parliament ! Their only exemption is from military service, so that they are never faced with having to kill their own brethren. Unlike the major Arab states who allowed their brethren to live for decades in the squalor of the camps they created for them on the frontier. Those big Arab ‘states’ were themselves only formed by the Turks and English with the help of Lawrence of Arabia and have no singular history of their own as such before then.

    We don’t need to suppose what the Islamists want. Their leaders brag about it. They want to take the entire world over and kill us ‘infidels.’ Those who survive will have to live under shariah law. They make no secret of it. Yet we practice political correctness, not to offend them, while they breed like rabbits and infect the world, which is too polite to restrict their immigration. Their leaders kill their own people with impunity, don’t enrich them, educate them or otherwise care for them with the proceeds of the oil, (which turns US into pimps for their violence), and line their pockets with secret accounts abroad. The occasional surviving despot who is deposed, moves into obscene comfort in Paris.

    Compare what Israel has contributed to the world in science, in medicine and in the arts, with what the Moslem world has contributed in the same 64 years of Israel’s existence. NOTHING.

    It is perhaps unfortunate that Judaism is the only religion which is not arrogant enough to proselitize. There are not enough of us in the entire world to be a “problem.” Only a problem for those ignorants, (like some of the above writers,)who are jealous of our achievements and seek to eliminate us again.

    WAKE UP. Israel isn’t the problem. It is what extremist Islamism hides behind while they sneak in and take over the rest of us !! Lani

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    • jerry  September 4, 2012 at 3:44 am

      Lani Mann wrote, “Unlike the major Arab states who allowed their brethren to live for decades in the squalor of the camps they created for them on the frontier.”

      Unfortunately, it was not the Arab states that created the long-standing problem with the refugees. It was the West. Western Europe and the US have supported the addiction to refugee status of the Muslims, because of their barely hidden animus and jealousy for the Jews. Their perennial support of the refugee camps sprouts from their perennial smirk that covers their discussions regarding Israel.

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  55. Rehmat  September 4, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Dr. Franklin Lamb is an honest Christian scholar. He would not lie about Israel as his fellow Christian Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper cook-up lies about Israel’s ao-called “enemies.

    The truth is – after learning the true nature of the state of Israel hiding behind the ‘Jewish facade’ – more and more Jewish intellectuals are searching for their ‘Jewish identity’. Rabbi Michael Lerner (Beyt Tikkun synagogue in Berkeley), Gilad Atzmon, Roger Tucker, Israel Shamir, Hilda Silverman and Professor Richard Falk being among them. Incidently, all of them have earned the title of ‘Self-Hating, Israel-Threatening (S.H.I.T)‘ Jews from Israel lobby groups.

    http://rehmat1.com/2012/06/29/israel-and-jewish-identity-the-search-goes-on/

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  56. garysgary  September 4, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Hooray, Hooray, Hooray. I’ve said for years that our relationship with Israel was killing us. Literally. Things are changing. A report or an analysis like this would have been unthinkable just a few short years ago.

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  57. Ben  September 5, 2012 at 10:52 am

    We seem to have gotten off focus from this post, which is: the author (FLamb) has a history of citing papers that turn out to not exist and trying to speak for individuals who have no fucking idea who he is. The sad thing is that he’s not really even trying to be a good liar anymore: the section about common interests between the U.S. and Iran is so transparent it’s embarrassing (and ironic, because Iran’s citizens WOULD be a great partner for any nation, including the U.S. or Israel, because of their long history of education and tolerance and democratic ideals; it’s the failed, vile mullah-led central government that isn’t worth knowing or having more than a bare relation to). FLamb may have been worth something earlier in his career, but now he’s nothing but a lying bitter Hezbollah shill.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 5, 2012 at 10:56 am

      We seem to have gotten off focus from this post, which is: the author (FLamb) has a history of citing papers that turn out to not exist…

      You don’t know that. It is good to be skeptical and question his source, but Franklin Lamb is a person of high integrity and would never simply lie to make something like this up.

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  58. Jeremy R. Hammond
    Jeremy R. Hammond  September 5, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    People are welcome to state their opinions and to comment, including criticism of the author and the article. However, comments consisting entirely of personal attacks and insults will be deleted.

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    • Ben  September 5, 2012 at 5:57 pm

      You made one good point before, about personal insults and attacks. I can’t say that FLamb is actually bitter so I would withdraw that (he doesn’t sound happy in anything he writes, but hell, that could be triggered by many causes). As for the parts about “lying”, “Hezbollah” and “shill”, I’m sorry but that’s part of his record. The alleged “Israel will be gone in 20 years” CIA report was never proven to actually exist; FLamb was asked “where is this report?” and he directed the respondent to links that, well, didn’t lead to the report. He also speculated about SECDEF Panetta giving Israel ultimatums that didn’t appear anywhere outside of his writings and didn’t appear to be facts either. If you can’t back up what you’re writing then it’s counterfeit, and for all of your mentions of FLamb’s admirable characteristics, he keeps making statements he can’t stand behind.

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      • Jeremy R. Hammond
        Jeremy R. Hammond  September 6, 2012 at 12:01 am

        Like I said, that the alleged report was never made public doesn’t make Franklin Lamb a liar, as though he simply invented the whole thing. Such reports aren’t often intended to be made public, after all. He has his sources, in this case a staffer for a CIA research unit. Does the report exist? I don’t know. I can’t verify that. How trustworthy is this source? Again, I don’t know. It is perfectly reasonable to be skeptical, but personal attacks like calling Lamb a liar are unwarranted.

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        • Ben  September 6, 2012 at 10:51 am

          Well, it’s clear that you and I are never going to see eye to eye on this matter because we have different views of FLamb. I’ve seen nothing to convince me he is (or generally tends to be) telling the truth, you’ve seen nothing to convince yourself he hasn’t, so there’s no point in any more posts on this matter. Also we fundamentally disagree about the entire ME conflict, judging from your previous posts and my own views on the matter, but I am glad I had the chance to exercise my 1st Amendment rights here and hope that you get to continue to exercise your own in the future.

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          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 6, 2012 at 12:24 pm

            Well, you don’t have any “right” to comment here. I allow you that privilege. I don’t know what there is you could possibly “fundamentally disagree” on, as the only comments I have made about the ME conflict have been to point out the fact that three quarters of a million Arabs were ethnically cleansed from Palestine, which is not a matter of opinion or open for debate. It’s an uncontroversial fact.

  59. United with Israel  September 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    ISRAEL BELONGS TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE
    JERUSALEM IS THE CAPITOL DON’T MATTER IF THE US DOESN’T AGREE

    GOD SAYS SO

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  60. David Ish Shalom  September 5, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    where is my comment? I hope you are not censoring pro-Israel replies.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 6, 2012 at 12:07 am

      I use page caching. Sometimes comments do not appear for a time as a consequence.

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  61. Hurricane Isaac  September 6, 2012 at 1:01 am

    I recommend everybody, especially those who dream to eliminate Israel, to read about “Samson Option”.
    One of the sources is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

    The sooner the whole world will understand what the use of this option might bring, the sooner people of good will stand up to the plate to fight the potential perpetrators of another ‘final solution’.
    This solution might be final not only for Israel, but rather for the whole world.

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    • NYJ  September 7, 2012 at 5:27 pm

      It’s amusing (though not surprising) that you think blackmail is the way to gather support…not as amusing as your belief that the rest of the world would ever allow Israel to get that far.

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      • Hurricane Isaac  September 8, 2012 at 2:35 am

        The whole idea of the “Samson Option” is just to remind the world that Jews will never again face annihilation without huge consequences not only for the perpetrators but also for the countries who helped them. Here is again General Moshe Dayan’s quote: ‘Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.’
        Please read again the article on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
        and then decide if it’s a blackmail, or just a “friendly” reminder about NEVER AGAIN.

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      • SM  September 24, 2012 at 5:12 am

        That is not blackmail but facts of life, Israel does not need the permission of the world to create Armageddon, read the Bible. There is no world post Israel!!!

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    • Zhw  September 8, 2012 at 11:59 am

      Even if such crazyness happens… do you realize that, after that, there will be massive pogroms against the remaining jews living outside of Israel ? That the jews will face definitive extinction ?
      Everyone in the world would turn antisemite and would be eager to lynch jews.

      And even if the “plan samson” is applied: the human race will survive, you can’t eradicate 7 billions humans, even with nuclear devices. So humanity would survive. But jews wouldn’t.

      If the plan samson is really designed to prevent jewish massacres, then it is the worst plan ever, haha.

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      • Hurricane Isaac  September 8, 2012 at 9:36 pm

        People who might survive the world nuclear war will be envy of people who perished.
        Israel will never use nuclear weapons first, but if attacked, will respond in kind and nobody would be able to stop them.
        Therefore, it’s better for the whole world to use any possible means to prevent such an attack on Israel. Don’t you understand this?
        As regarding your concerns about the attacks on the surviving Jews (if anybody will survive), here is the quote by the King of France Louis XV (1710-1774): “Après moi, le déluge” (“After me, the deluge”).
        So, the best possible scenario is prevention.
        Please do not forget: NEVER AGAIN.

        j

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        • Truthrat  September 9, 2012 at 6:47 am

          “Never again” has been rendered to be tragic and simple minded naivete because of Jewry’s concerted attempt to ethnic cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.

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          • Rube Howard  September 11, 2012 at 6:20 am

            I am hoping Iran obtains the bomb, Only then,
            there will be true peace. regards, Rube

          • Philip Kirschner  September 14, 2012 at 3:21 pm

            Truthrat, never again became a jewish slogan because of the world not stopping HITLER until it was too late. Jews are justified. I never want to see that option used, but understand why they will. ALl of this is bible prophecy, the difference is, you will have no MAHDI to save you. Accept Christ before its too late.

        • rachel in jerusalem  September 9, 2012 at 6:59 pm

          Thank you for your sane and historically correct comments, Hurricane Isaac. I am astounded at the level of ignorance of most of the commenters herein. Do you think they know they’re been brainwashed?

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          • Hurricane Isaac  September 9, 2012 at 11:23 pm

            Rachel, I’m convinced that the majority of the visitors to this website and the author of the article himself are haters of Israel and the Jews. To put it simply: they are just regular, banal anti-Semites.
            Their biggest problem is that they are still dreaming in technicolors to get rid of the Jews without any consequences for them. This approach they had been using for 2,000 years. But the times have changed.
            Can they destroy Israel and the Jews in the other countries? The answer is: it will be tough for them, but possible. But even if they succeed, G-d forbid, they will be destroyed as well. The sooner they will realize that NEVER AGAIN is serious and not a “naivete” (see Truthrat’s comments above), the better are their chances to get rid of their hate and join people of good will all over the world in the fight of preventing the nuclear attack on Israel.

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 10, 2012 at 8:41 am

            Ah, the old “anti-Semite” accusation card. Facts be damned! People with half a brain understand that criticism of Israel’s criminal policies is not anti-Semitic. Fortunately “the majority of the visitors to this website” have half a brain.

          • Blake  September 14, 2012 at 9:09 pm

            Brainwashed people live in homes that belong to another and believe it belongs to them Rachel in Jerusalem. Nuking the world is sane and justified to the squatters in Palestine. Zionists have swallowed the antonym dictionary of course and are contrary to all men.

      • SM  September 24, 2012 at 5:16 am

        It amazes me that are still people like yourself in the world, how imprudent. You try to feed 7 billion people when there is acid rain, scorched earth and nuclear fallout for 100 years.

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    • Philip Kirschner  September 14, 2012 at 3:16 pm

      This plan is by design. The only armagedeon that will happen is to the ARAB nations that try to eleminate Isreal. The children of ISHMAIL must wake up and see their behavior will result in nothing more than death and destruction. Why take us to the brink? Please wake up.

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      • Blake  September 14, 2012 at 10:51 pm

        Delusional and clinically insane. Nuke the ME and you nuke yourselves or do you perhaps think Lucifer will save you because you are His chosen?

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      • Carolyn  September 15, 2012 at 2:07 am

        I think we’re listening to the wrong Jews. The Zionist in Israel are no different from any other nation which seeks to usurp God’s power & authority by a worldy force of arms.

        This includes the whole-world. I think God is looking down on us; shaking His head-wondering -what was I thinking.

        From the official Naturei Karta web page:

        The only time that the People of Israel were permitted to have a state was two thousand years ago when the glory of the creator was upon us, and likewise in the future when the glory of the creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him, then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on Divine Service. However, a worldly state, like those possessed by other peoples, is contradictory to the true essence of the People of Israel. Whoever calls this the salvation of Israel shows that he denies the essence of the People of Israel, and substitutes another nature, a worldly materialistic nature, and therefore sets before them, a worldly materialistic “salvation,” and the means of achieving this “salvation” is also worldly and materialistic i.e. to organize a land and army. However, the true salvation of the People of Israel is to draw close to the Creator. This is not done by organization and force of arms. Rather it is done by occupation to Torah and good deeds.

        SECOND — Because of all of this and other reasons the Torah forbids us to end the exile and establish a state and army until the Holy One, blessed He, in His Glory and Essence will redeem us. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah because arising from the exile itself is forbidden, and we are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as is explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. If we transgress this injunction, He will bring upon us (may we be spared) terrible punishment.

        THIRD — Aside from arising from exile, all the deeds of the Zionists are diametrically opposed to the Faith and the Torah. Because the foundation of the Faith and Torah of Israel is that the Torah was revealed from heaven, and there is reward for those who obey it and punishment for those who transgress it. The entire People of Israel is required to obey the Torah, and whoever doesn’t want to, ceases to be part of the congregation of Israel.

        FOURTH — Aside from the fact that they themselves do not obey the Torah they do everything they can to prevent anyone they get under their power from fulfilling the commands of the Torah, the claims to freedom of religion are lies. They fight with all of their strength to destroy the Faith of Israel.

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        • SM  September 24, 2012 at 5:18 am

          Israel does not live by the pages of Neturei Karta

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    • ita  September 19, 2012 at 4:08 am

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    • Gal  September 24, 2012 at 2:19 pm

      Lets just ignore this madness?
      It has never been the mission of the Jewish people to annihilate humanity. just the opposite, in fact. Such disconnection from our soul should be a lesson to the madness of our capacity for religious extremism.
      The way to respond to this report is with reasonable repudiation of its blatant lies, not with a head-on threat.

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  62. Mike Thompson  September 6, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    I`m struck at how the majority of pro-Israeli comments are filled with such hate, justified with statements aimed to show how evil Palestinians, and Arabs in general, are.

    David Ben-Gurion summed it up back in 1948 when he said “Let us not delude ourselves, We (The Israelis) are the aggressors, they (The Palestinians) Fight to defend their Land”.

    I`m not surprised that Israel is dismissive of World opinion, The deluded US supporters of Israel, allows Israel to get away with murder, literally.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 7, 2012 at 11:49 pm

      Normally I would delete comments containing nothing but hate and prejudice, but in this case I’ll let them stand because I think it’s useful for people to see the attitude of people who can defend Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians.

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      • Edohiguma  September 8, 2012 at 11:31 am

        What crimes and what “Palestinians”? You’re just repeating the same old anti-Semitic lies. What’s next? The genocide in Gaza? The strangest genocide ever, where the population actually increases? What are “Palestinians” anyway? There is no such thing. There never has been, but then again, you’re American, so your default setting is “stupid”.

        Your beloved “Palestinians” follow islam, which is a fascist ideology, nothing else. Under this ideology oppression of women, gays and people of other faiths is allowed, encouraged and supported.

        Heck, you people praise the Arab Spring and Islamic Awakening, which has led to what? Freedom? Democracy? Or more islam, more sharia, more fascism? Oh yeah, more islam, more sharia, more fascism, more oppression. Of course, and why is that?

        Because islam is not compatible with democracy. Democracy is based on the idea that every voice is equal, no matter what skin color, gender or religion people have. That idea violates islamic law. An infidel under islamic law (aka sharia) can never be equal to a “muslim” (which really just means “true believer” anyway.) Islamic law forbids such equality, just like it forbids freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of thought.

        But then again, you islam-apologizers ignore such little facts because they don’t feel into your warped world view.

        Islam is the “religion” under which you can get put in prison for saying “god doesn’t exist” on facebook (as happened in Indonesia.)

        There’s a reason both Hitler and Himmler really like islam, and why there was even an islamic SS division and why Hitler’s vile little book is a top seller in many islamic countries.

        Iran needs to be dealt with. Iran with a nuclear bomb is like Hitler with a nuke and it’s really the last thing the world needs. In fact, we should simply ban islam. Islam is the root of the problem, always has been. 1,400 years of constant aggression against everything that was/is not islamic. Millions of dead in the name of the great mass murdering, pedophile prophet. Kemal Atatürk was right when he called islam a “rotten corpse that is poisoning our lives.”

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 8, 2012 at 12:08 pm

          If you want an example of Israel’s crimes, from the beginning of its history, take the ethnic cleansing of three-quarters of a million Arab Palestinians, and from this end of the timeline, it’s 22-day massacre in Gaza from December 27 2008 to January 18 2009 and continued collective punishment of the civilian population. There are lots more crimes in between, but it would be superfluous to list more.

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          • rachel in jerusalem  September 9, 2012 at 7:47 pm

            Most of them ran away because Arab leaders about to attack Israel told them to do so, so that when the Jews were massacred, they would not be in danger. There are tapes of these broadcasts in Arabic, urging them to leave. The Arab world has preserved their ‘refugee’ status to use them as pawns in their strategies against Israel. These ‘refugees’ are kept separate from the Arab populations and not allowed to integrate into the community. This makes them ‘martyrs’ whether they want to be or not. This helps their anger simmer and they are told it is Israel’s fault. A fantasy of reconquest from within is fed to them. Generation after generation is molded by hake and gets sicker and sicker. How manipulative and murderous to use people this way. I call on all Arab leaders. Tell them the truth: they will never return. Let them begin their lives.

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 10, 2012 at 8:38 am

            No, Rachel. Three-quarters of a million Arab Palestinians were forced from their homes or fled out of fear of massacres like he one that occurred at Deir Yassin. You are just repeating the Zionist propaganda narrative, which no credible scholar takes seriously.

          • lenny  September 14, 2012 at 1:05 pm

            Dear Sir,

            Can you provide a documentary evidence for your claim that “Three-quarters of a million Arab Palestinians were forced from their homes or fled out of fear of massacres”? It will help me in my arguments with my wife. Please give me some real material, say Chomsky is not good enough because he is quoting other sources, and she does not respect Finkelstein too.

            All the best,

            Lenny

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 14, 2012 at 1:45 pm

            Sure. Read the book “The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine” by Ilan Pappe. He documents this tragedy extensively.

          • Philip Kirschner  September 14, 2012 at 3:27 pm

            Dec 27, 2008 a result of islamic terror against isreal. You bomb school, shoot katusha rockets and hit farms with tourists and jewish school children. Do you expect ISRAEL to sit back and allow its citizens to be killed? Wake up, the trillions are fueling this.

            Jeremy R. Hammond Reply

            September 8, 2012 at 12:08 pm

            If you want an example of Israel’s crimes, from the beginning of its history, take the ethnic cleansing of three-quarters of a million Arab Palestinians, and from this end of the timeline, it’s 22-day massacre in Gaza from December 27 2008 to January 18 2009 and continued collective punishment of the civilian population. There are lots more crimes in between, but it would be superfluous to list more.

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 14, 2012 at 4:08 pm

            Nonsense. The ceasefire between Hamas and Israel was violated by Israel, not Hamas. Hamas offered to renew it upon its six-month expiration, but Israel rejected peace in favor of violence.

        • Jennifer  September 9, 2012 at 1:53 am

          The “stupid” Americans have provided more than $91 billion and counting in aid to the Apartheid Abomination settler colony that is Israel since 1949.

          However, the “stupid” American tax-payers are waking up by the droves and demanding that this aid and support of the Zionist colony cease ASAP!!

          Hey people, see this site and you will be appalled at the cost the “stupid” American taxpayers have born for Israel:

          http://www.wrmea.org/special-topics/5696.html

          We’ve realized that there has been no benefit to supporting this failed “democracy” and that on the contrary, our support of Israel has been a dangerous and expensive enterprise that has degraded our standing in the world, drained our economic resources and places precious American lives at risk both at home and abroad.

          Yes, it is past time to cut off that parasite and begin to repair relations the 57 Arab/Islamic nations and begin again to work with the 193 member nations in the UN body rather than just using our veto power to oppose any and all policies that Israel demands!

          When you refer to “the rotten corpse that is poisoning our lives”, a good portion of the world would think you’re describing Israel!!!!

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          • Lucille  September 10, 2012 at 10:09 pm

            Do you have any idea how much $$ we have given in aid to the Palestinians, etc? not just aid but ‘nation building”= colonization everywhere on the globe.The “stupid” button, is glowing red hot, and will implode in any case. US is circling the drain.
            As far as US/Israel/PLO/Arab states govts are ALL corrupt, every one.
            Yahweh will answer and He will not be mocked. Its His covenant land, He will have the last Word.

          • Blake  September 14, 2012 at 10:54 pm

            Lucille: Not 1 dime pre-1948 and your occupation of their self sufficient land. You zionuts have zero logic or rational thought.

          • Just a watchmen  September 26, 2012 at 4:07 am

            Jenny,

            I understand your misunderstanding regarding the truth of the Israeli and Palestinian question. I will endeavor to explain to you the truth of the matter so your eyes could separate the truth from the error. However..first i would like to ask you about the history of the United States and the lands it has. How did they obtain them? What about Russia, France,or Germany? How did the empire of England become what it did? Did it take over Wales, Scotland and Ireland? How did they all obtain the land they currently have today? Think on that. Think also on the vast Arab lands and countries, How did their borders derive? Given to them, or by conquest? What is the truth? What is the lie?

            As for Israel and the Palestinian issue:

            If only Israel would “return” the land it “stole” from Palestinian Arabs there would be a new Palestinian state: that’s the world’s simplistic view of how peace can be won in the Middle East. Despite the continuous repetition of this theme by media, diplomats, world leaders and Arabs, it disregards one foundational truth: Israel does not possess or “occupy” today any land that ever belonged to Palestinian Arabs.

            Furthermore, there was never a “Palestinian Arab” until 1993 and the Oslo Accords. It was then that the United States crowned Yasser Arafat as the leader of a new pseudo-state and dubbed its citizens “Palestinians.” Now the world treats the Arabs who live in Israel as if they are citizens of a separate state, giving them multimillions of dollars each year in financial aid. These same world leaders also keep demanding that Israel give back or “return” to the “Palestinians” the land they supposedly took from them in the 1967 Six-Day War.

            The world, quite frankly, is on the wrong side of history.

            The world seems to forget that during the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel captured the territories of Judea and Samaria, often called the West Bank, from Jordan; the Golan Heights from Syria; and Gaza from Egypt. There was never an Arab Palestine nation. What has other countries done to land it obtained in an act of aggression against them, in an act of war? The USA was the aggressor with the American Indian nations. Have they given back any of the lands taken? How about Russia? How did any of the worlds countries find it’s borders? Was it through common agreement and mutual satisfaction with it’s neighbors? People who rail upon Israel and it’s tiny sliver of land forget that the Arab countries purposefully abandoned the settlers that were known as Trans Jordanians and Egyptians. Jordan was to take in the displaced peoples and then refused to do so becasue it was strategically effective to “USE” them instead.

            In 1947 the United Nations voted to divide the land west of the Jordan River into two states, about half of it for an Arab state and half for a Jewish state. The Arabs refused the offer. The Jews accepted, declaring nationhood in May 1948. Five neighboring Arab armies immediately attacked the new Jewish state, and the God of Israel, along with the courageous Jewish people, miraculously defended the existence of the new Israel. Jordan took sovereignty over Judea and Samaria and Egypt over Gaza. 1948: No Palestinian Arab state or Palestinian Arabs on those lands.

            The 1917 Balfour Declaration designated the British-controlled area of what is now Jordan and Israel as “a homeland for the Jewish people.” In 1922, however, Britain gave 80 percent of the territory (all the land east of the Jordan River) to the Arabs for a state, which they called Trans-Jordan. Still no Palestinian Arab state; no Palestinian Arabs.

            From 1900 to 1948, The Zionism movement brought some 650,000 Jews from European and Asian countries to populate the ancient Jewish homeland. For some 400 years before World War I, the Ottoman Empire controlled the land in question. Before that, the Byzantine Empire ruled the area. Even then, no Palestinian Arab state existed on this land.

            Why not go back even farther yet? Accurate historical reports in the Torah and Tenah inform us that this land belonged to the Jewish people for some two thousand years. These Scriptures behold what is called the Biblical Mandate, where the God of Israel promised all this land to Abraham, the father of the Jewish people and nation, and to his seed as an “eternal possession.” Interestingly, Prime Minister Netanyahu often claims this Biblical Mandate is still in effect today.

            Yielding to world pressure, several previous Prime Ministers of Israel, under the slogan “Land for Peace,” offered to give the Arabs the land they are demanding. Although Israel has not given full sovereignty to the Arabs over the West Bank and Gaza, they have given them self-government and a great deal of independence. However, these efforts of “land for peace” have not produced peace, but instead continuing Arab terrorism and warfare.

            Meanwhile, Israel and her Jewish people continue to hope and strive for peace with their Arab neighbors. Someone has said, “If the Arabs would lay down their arms, there would be peace and no warfare, but if Israel laid down its arms, there would be no Israel.” That is the reality for Israel today, as it has been for all of its 64 years as a restored nation.

            How would you feel if your country was besieged on all sides and threatened with annihilation? The threats backed up by numerous attacks by those same neighbors over the course of over 60 years? If you put yourself into the shoes of that tiny sliver of a country outnumbered 1,000 to 1 with enemies hell bent on “wiping out your country from the pages of history” you mights see things differently. However, there is an evil in this world that is determined to wipe out the Israeli peoples and will use all means and excuses to try and do so. However jenny this is the truth of the matter…

            Muslims have concurred many lands and have subjugated peoples throughout history and have grown their national boundaries through warfare and bloodshed. How come they are not required to give those lands back? THINK.

            Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Bible passages predict the return of Israel to the land of Palestine. Here are a few.

            Ezekiel 20:34 – “I will bring you from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been scattered — with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with outpoured wrath.”

            Isaiah 11:11-12 NIV – “In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea. He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth.”

            Israel, a nation that had not really existed as a separate nation for nearly 2,500 years, was declared a new sovereign state by an act of the United Nations on May 14, 1948. The nation was born in a day.

            Isaiah 66:8 NIV – “Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labour than she gives birth to her children.”

            Palestinian claims

            Palestinian claims to be related to the Canaanites are a recent phenomenon and contrary to historical evidence. The Canaanites disappeared from the face of the earth three millennia ago, and no one knows if any of their descendants survived or, if they did, who they would be.

            Sherif Hussein, the guardian of the Islamic Holy Places in Arabia, said the Palestinians’ ancestors had only been in the area for 1,000 years.

            Even the Palestinians themselves have acknowledged their association with the region came long after the Jews. In testimony before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, for example, they claimed a connection to Palestine of more than 1,000 years, dating back no further than the conquest of Muhammad’s followers in the 7th century. And that claim is also dubious.

            Over the last 2,000 years, there have been massive invasions that killed off most of the local people (e.g., the Crusades), migrations, the plague, and other manmade or natural disasters. The entire local population was replaced many times over. During the British mandate alone, more than 100,000 Arabs emigrated from neighboring countries and are today considered Palestinians.

            By contrast, no serious historian questions the more than 3,000-year-old Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, or the modern Jewish people’s relation to the ancient Hebrews.

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 26, 2012 at 6:49 pm

            Israel does not possess or “occupy” today any land that ever belonged to Palestinian Arabs.

            It is completely uncontroversial that all of Gaza and the West Bank, including east Jerusalem, are under international law “occupied Palestinian territories” and that the settlements are illegal. The only nation on the planet that rejects that international consensus is Israel.

            Furthermore, there was never a “Palestinian Arab” until 1993…

            The idiocy of that statement speaks for itself.

            In 1947 the United Nations voted to divide the land west of the Jordan River into two states, about half of it for an Arab state and half for a Jewish state.

            UN General Assembly resolution 181 did not partition Palestine. The idea that the UN created Israel is a myth.

            The Arabs refused the offer. The Jews accepted, declaring nationhood in May 1948. Five neighboring Arab armies immediately attacked the new Jewish state…

            Yes, of course they rejected the partition plan. Naturally, since they were the majority population and owned most of the land, while the minority Jews legally owned less than 6% of the land, and yet the plan called for taking land from the Arabs and giving it to the Jews, such that the “Jewish state” would consist of 55% of the land and the Arab state only 45%. No self-respecting people on the planet would accept such an injustice.

            You also neglected to mention the fact that the Zionist forces ethnically cleansed Palestine of three-quarters of a million Arab Palestinians. About 300,000 had already been cleansed BEFORE the Zionists unilaterally declared its existence. You also neglect to mention that most of the actual fighting that took place occurred in the land that the unimplemented partition plan had assigned to the Palestinian state. Jordan’s Arab Legion, for example, was the most significant military force on the Arab side, and it only DEFENDED the West Bank.

            The 1917 Balfour Declaration designated the British-controlled area of what is now Jordan and Israel as “a homeland for the Jewish people.”

            That is a lie. It called for “a homeland for the Jewish people” “IN PALESTINE”, meaning autonomous Jewish communities within the greater state of Palestine.

            …the God of Israel promised all this land to Abraham, the father of the Jewish people and nation…

            You should read the WHOLE Bible. Including the parts that tell how the Hebrews continuously violated their covenant with Yahweh.

          • Seanoamericano  May 14, 2014 at 5:36 am

            The difference between israel and England France America is that only israel used genocide and ethnic clensing for 60 years and interfered with the govts of other nations so that real wealth can be stolen.

        • Truthrat  September 9, 2012 at 7:01 am

          Edo, it seems to me that Turkey is an example of a country with a predominantly Islamic population, that established a democratic society. Correct me if I’m wrong. It’s even more commendable to the Turks for consciously deciding to adopt a democracy, starting from Islamic roots. If I’m right about this, Israel would do well to take the example and form a true secular democracy. I know they claim to be a democracy, but I’m one of the minority of Americans who see through those lies.

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        • rachel in jerusalem  September 9, 2012 at 7:01 pm

          Thank you for your sane and historically correct comments, Edohiguma. I am astounded at the level of ignorance of most of the commenters herein. Do you think they know they’re been brainwashed?

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      • Hurricane Isaac  September 10, 2012 at 9:52 am

        Call it whatever you want: blackmail, playing old anti-Semitic card, etc. It doesn’t matter.
        First of all, the whole article by your guru Franklin Lamb is a fabrication. His referrals to sources at CIA are baseless and he will never be able to prove that they are not.
        And even if he really did dig out some ‘true’ info from CIA or any other ‘reliable’ sources, he and people like him and you have to understand that it won’t be a post-Israel Middle East. It will be no Middle East at all and maybe more… Please don’t kid yourselves and insult your own intelligence. Face the reality.
        I repeat one more time: NEVER AGAIN.
        I suggest you read this article by Joe McCain:
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663163/posts
        It might help you to change your mind. And if not, so be it.

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 10, 2012 at 10:37 am

          By the same logic, you will never be able to prove that Franklin’s source provided him with a fabrication.

          I once again urge readers to take the report with a grain of salt, as one should with any unconfirmed and uncorroborated information. Charges of “anti-Semitism” and other such personal attacks, however, will not be tolerated, and I once again warn readers that comments consisting entirely of personal attacks will be deleted and the user banned.

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          • Hurricane Isaac  September 12, 2012 at 3:03 am

            Jeremy, are you the moderator of this site? And even it’s so, how can you ban anybody? Isn’t it a free country with free speech? Please don’t shoot yourself in the foot.
            As regarding the hate you are accusing commentators who are pro-Israel, let me remind a quote by Richard Nixon: Those who hate you don’t win, unless you hate them and then you destroy yourself.

            I’ll just summarize my comments before I’m ‘banned':
            – All Jew haters and enemies of Israel should remember about Samson Option for their own sake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option.
            – Jews in general and Israel in particular won’t go down again as it had happened in the last 2,000 years without taking with them the perpetrators and their supporters. Thus, they should think at least twice before attacking Israel with nuclear weapons.
            – NEVER again means NEVER AGAIN.
            And now I close my case.

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 12, 2012 at 7:31 am

            Are you kidding me, Hurricane? This is my site. You do not have a right to comment here. I allow you that privilege, and I can take it away.

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 12, 2012 at 7:37 am

            BTW, you might be interested to know I just revoked someone’s privileges by deleting a comment that began “Jewry by definition is a psychopathic hate cult…” So far I’ve been lenient with your “Jew haters” and other remarks. Your final warning.

          • Hurricane Isaac  September 12, 2012 at 11:10 am

            Jeremy R. Hammond, I did not know that it’s your personal site. And sorry I made you so angry.
            For some reason (but I have a pretty good idea what it is) you don’t shut up people who are writing on your site terrible anti-Israel and anti-Jewish comments. BTW, your personal comments are not very far from their views. But people, who try to defend Israel or just comment about realities of the ME situation, you are ready to ban. So be it.
            If you are unbiased, you would publish on your site articles written by people like Dr. Pipes, Alan Dershowitz. But I’m sure you never will. Therefore, as I mentioned in my previous comments, I close my case and promise never again visit your site full of hate, lies, fabrications, etc. I’m sure you are a very intelligent person. Thus, please try to get yourself a more honest and honourable life. It’s up to you to publish these comments or “ban” them. It will be a test for your integrity…

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 12, 2012 at 11:57 am

            you don’t shut up people who are writing on your site terrible anti-Israel and anti-Jewish comments

            Actually, the last comment I deleted began “Jewry by definition is a psychopathic hate cult…”, which was why I deleted it. If Daniel Pipes or Alan Dershowitz would like to submit articles to FPJ, I’d be happy to consider them. Of course, pointing to these fellas as examples of objectivity is perfectly laughable.

      • Just a watchmen  September 26, 2012 at 4:32 am

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_ceasefire

        also:

        “There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity… yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel”.

        – Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council –

        “You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people”.

        – Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 26, 2012 at 6:56 pm

          What is it I said you are trying to challenge? I repeat, the 2008 ceasefire between Israel and Hamas was violated by Israel.

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    • Garry Rudd  September 11, 2012 at 6:21 am

      Your use of that quote is outside of reality. What you think they were fighting against a small group of farmers and tradesmen and such? They were taking the battle push as far back as possible so as to have a better chance of mere survival. There were and still are more than a few armies for them to contend with. Don’t ya think? Besides, what is a Palestinian ? What language do they speak? Where does their great grand parents come from? more than a few Muslim nations. Even Arafat was Egyptian. Besides, all those offended at the idea of rendering destruction on those destroying you is not a concept unknown to nations. Most nations probably feel the same.

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  63. Yuval Brandstetter MD  September 7, 2012 at 8:49 am

    What is truly surprising is that in the midst of the Arab Jihad awakening, where Jihadi forces are overwhelming the so-called pragmatic Arab institutions that such antisemitic drivel is being pushed by Foreign policy
    The assumption is that should the US forsake israel, Israel is sure to be overwhelmed. Thats a typical Muslim supremacist ideology
    Now, that has been tried three times. Once in 1948 with US arms embargo, Once in 1957 over the Sinai campaign and once in 1967 again an arms embargo, and now a fourth time versus Iran. Israel prevailed in the past and will prevail again.
    Even more suprising, at a time when Arabs are killing each aother a t a rate of 500-1000 a day that Israel should be put on the spot for being the most peaceful place in the middle East. under Jewish power, even arabs desist from killing each other so profusely.
    but the real explanation for this outpouring of judeocidal emotion is the fact that the US is poised to shift away from the ME due to enormous deposits of shale gas and shale oil in North america. Thus no need to uphold the arab position nor need to keep forces keeping the Arabs from killing each other. israel, without the US to hold then back will finally drive the invaders away from the Jewish homeland, to Eurabia, which is already being taken over by thge arabs, which is fine with me.

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    • Jennifer  September 9, 2012 at 2:39 am

      Yuval,

      I think you have it ass backwards – it’s the Ashkenazi Jew invader/occupiers that the Arabs should drive back to Europe from whence they came 60 short years ago!!!!

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      • Philip Kirschner  September 14, 2012 at 3:33 pm

        Jennifer,

        And why did the ASHKANAZI jews have a need for a homeland? What justifies a mentality like that? The death of 6 million perhaps? Wake up, Christ will be coming real soon. Enemies of israel will lose.

        September 9, 2012 at 2:39 am

        Yuval,

        I think you have it ass backwards – it’s the Ashkenazi Jew invader/occupiers that the Arabs should drive back to Europe from whence they came 60 short years ago!!!

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  64. Francine  September 10, 2012 at 4:16 am

    The enemies of Israel can rewrite history but cannot change the truth. Israel was never a Palestinian State. They never had a government, a monetary system or legal system. They were part of the many tribes that traveled throughout the middle east. Many settled in what is now and was historically Israel to find work.The Jews have had a connection to Israel throughout history. They had a government,laws, culture, religion and monetary system. They were driven from their homeland multiple times, but always tried to return. In spite of the difficulties, there was always a Jewish presence there, The Palestinian Arabs characterize themselves not as a distinct people, but as part of the Arab nation and know that their national identity is a contrivance to help the Arabs to eliminate Israel. A spokesman of the Arab League revealed that Pan-Arab policy is to refuse Palestinians citizenship in Arab. countries in which they have been resident for decades, so as to artificially preserve their identity. The Palestinian Arabs have much better lives living in Israel than those living in Arab countries. The nazis said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will think it is true. The Arabs were pro Nazi during WW2 and learned their lessons well.

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    • malak  August 4, 2013 at 5:00 am

      Have you seen the Palestinian stamp, or coin cause you might want to look into that before sounding ignorant!?

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  65. Renard  September 10, 2012 at 4:25 am

    I mean how can you publish such BS? Are you people so dumb that they can’t see blattant disinformation?

    Seriously? Are you that stupid?

    Anybody with half an active brain can see this “report” for what it is: pure BS.

    If you don’t you are probably VERY retarded.

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  66. Fran  September 10, 2012 at 4:27 am

    The U.S. State department was against the U.N. vote for a Jewish State. President Truman overrode them. The State Department continues to be anti-Israel today.

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  67. Rog  September 11, 2012 at 2:09 am

    Normaly i don’t pay attention to stupid and ignorant comment by those who deny the Palestinian rights to their home land and their state of Palestine. I, as a 1000% Palestinian has every right to have my own state in Palestine and to live free in the land of my father, grand father, to the day earth was created. Those Zionist Jews who came from Europe, Rassah and else where have no place in my country. Jews have the right to live through out the Arab world free as they did since the days of our prophit Ibranim. To deny us our right will not change the fact that we will be here and we will stand firm and fight for our justice and do what ever it takes to gain our freedom as other nations did after the horible occupation of the middle east by the British, French, Spainish, italians,etc.. We will win at the end. As for the negative comments from all the zionist lovers, that won’t change the fact that the days of their living in my country is limitted. Israel will not survive for too long no matter who stand in its support for simple reasons of money, voting, pressure of any kind. Israel would black mail anyone to get what its want right or wrong. it is a fact. So you all negative people betteopr understand that the Paletinians are there to stay regardless of all the murder, humilation, destructions and occupation your eyes are closed about. We Palestinians, Arabs and all Muslims around the world are people of God and not anti humans. All the lies about islam are lies about God who created all the prophets including Moses, Jesus and Mohammad (God’s prophets.). Wake up all anti Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs. we are 1/2 the world population. Does that means anything to you. We are for peace, justice and freedom that God allowes us to have, and not you.

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  68. aarroozz  September 11, 2012 at 10:05 am

    I try to keep things in the realistic realm. If Mexico was sending rockets into Los Angeles on a daily basis, would America sit back and take it with almost zero retaliation?

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    • chapultepec  September 11, 2012 at 9:20 pm

      there is a little mistake in your analogy: mexico is not under illegal military occupation

      “…It is useful to bear in mind that Israel understood at once that its settlement projects in the occupied territories, and anything related to them, are illegal. Israel’s top legal authority on international law, Theodor Meron, a distinguished international lawyer and a leading figure in international tribunals, informed the government in September 1967 “that civilian settlement in the administered [occupied] territories contravenes the explicit provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention,” the core of international humanitarian law. The cabinet had already been informed of that by Justice Minister Ya’akov Shimshon Shapira. A few weeks later Defense Minister Moshe Dayan, who was in charge of the occupied territories, informed his fellow ministers that “we must consolidate our hold so that over time we will succeed in ‘digesting’ Judea and Samaria [the West Bank] and merging them with ‘little’ Israel,” meanwhile “dismember[ing] the territorial contiguity” of the West Bank. This would have to be done by expropriating land from Arab owners, under the pretense “that the step is necessary for military purposes,” a subterfuge that had also worked quite well to deprive Israeli Arabs of the rights accorded to Jewish citizens, as in the notorious case of the town of Carmiel. The settlement and dismemberment policies have since been followed systematically, and still are. Throughout, a leading role has been played by the official “doves,” notably Shimon Peres.

      Dayan had no illusions about the criminality of the enterprise he was recommending. “Settling Israelis in occupied territory contravenes, as is known, international conventions,” he observed, “but there is nothing essentially new in that.” He evidently expected the paymaster in Washington to object formally, but with a wink. That too has been the regular practice, even as the criminality has been underscored by Security Council resolutions and more recently by the International Court of Justice, with the basic agreement of U.S. Justice Buergenthal in a separate declaration… (Hopes and Prospects, N. Chomsky”

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      • chapultepec  September 11, 2012 at 9:23 pm

        here is the corresponding footnote to the excerpt quoted above:

        “…Gershom Gorenberg, The Accidental Empire (New York: Times Books, 2006). On the carefully planned and systematic execution of the project, and the leading role of Peres and others honored in the West as “moderates” and “peacemakers,” see Idith Zertal and Akiva Eldar, Lords of the Land (New York: Nation Books, 2007); also on the shameful behavior of the courts, along with Moshe Negbi, Kisdom Hayinu (Jerusalem: Keter Publishing House, 2004, Hebrew), the most prominent legal commentator in the Israeli media. For quotes from his harrowing account of what passes for law in Israel, and from other leading Israeli analysts who bring forth similar material, see Failed States. Ibid. on the ICJ and Buergenthal…”

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    • chapultepec  September 11, 2012 at 11:24 pm

      Your analogy would be far more better indeed if you say something like this:

      Suppose that back in the early 19th century (i.e. before 1848) the mexicans that once lived in California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and the southern part of Colorado had been expelled from their homes by european invaders by means of military force. They are now living in a small territory in southern California surrounded by european military outposts that harass them on a daily basis, destroy their remaining homes and keep on annexing more fertile territory and water sources and make their life impossible.
      http://www.addictedtowar.com/book/addictwarnew10.jpg

      Do the mexicans have a right to resist the ongoing occupation in order to keep at least a part of their former territory?

      Which means of mexican resistance would be legitimate? (this is the real question!)

      I don’t think rocket attacks are a legitimate mean, but that they would have a right to resist is out of question

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  69. chapultepec  September 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    there is a little mistake in your analogy: mexico is not under illegal military occupation

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  70. Patrick Henry  September 11, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    Post-Israel world?………hahahahaha, better check with Yaw-weh first.

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  71. Moses  September 14, 2012 at 5:54 am

    Why u discuss this piece of shit article it is clear by now that American interests are making another bucks. America is starting to sound kind of Muslim to me I would say. U better wake up cause Israel will be forever no matter what, but if u thing only about money as your interests, then u are going down for sure. Shana tova and please America replace Obama before its too late..

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  72. Mike  September 14, 2012 at 8:23 am

    I am a Jew… Firstly, to all of the bloggers please refrain from using G-D’s name Y-A-H-W-E-H. Its very holy and should not be used carelessly, or at all. I vehemently disagree with any idea to wipe out the rest of the world if Israel goes down. Soon very big things will happen and the Messiah will come, and everything will become clear. Purely politically, I believe that Israel is a great asset to the American people because it keeps many of the unfriendly Arab countries in check. Also the Palestinians were offered by Prime Minister Olmert 97% of Judea and Samaria including a fair part in Jerusalem several years ago. Olmert had a special session with Condezzelina Rice about it, which she wrote about in her new book. The arabs in Israel have Full rights. In fact an Arab judge on the supreme court just sentenced a former Israeli president to prison time (lets think about Apartheid…) and their are arab political parties, within the Kenesset that commit treasonous acts and cooperate with terrorist groups like Hizbullah (which the US calls terrorists also). Acts that politicians in the US would be imprisoned for, without any court takingany action against them. And 50% of the ISraeli ARabs are proud of ISrael.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm

      “arabs in Israel have Full rights”

      That is patently false.

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      • Aaron Roll  September 14, 2012 at 9:11 pm

        true, Israeli-Arabs have no equal rights in Israel. they are enjoying over-civil rights much beyond the Jewish citizens…open facts books and learn.
        Sir, it is obvious that you have no idea about what you are talking about. you are missing many facts regarding the conflict. you are relying on a false, auto-Semitics researchers (Papa, Homsky)and it is obvious that you are antisemitic by yourself which bring false statements to cover his own Jews hatred.
        You can ban anybody as you like, you will never be able to shut up other opinions. by stating your ability to ban others you are pointing at your low-life self.

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 14, 2012 at 11:06 pm

          Whoa. You say Arab Israelis “are enjoying over-civil rights much beyond the Jewish citizens” and then say to me “it is obvious that you have no idea about what you are talking about”? That and the rest of your comment pretty much speaks for itself.

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        • Blake  September 15, 2012 at 1:08 am

          Aaron: Kind of bs an Afrikaner would say in aparthei South Africa. It’s not only an repulsive lie by an occupier and oppressor it is not even human.

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  73. Mike  September 14, 2012 at 10:19 am

    I forgot to mention that the Israeli Arabs are given more freedom and rights, in every dimension of their lives (economically, socially, politically), in Israel than any other country in the middle east, except turkey, which gives their muslim citizens the same rights. When Israel was first declared to be a state Ben Gurion invited all of the Arab inhabitants to be full members and citizens in it.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 14, 2012 at 1:39 pm

      Rights are not “given” by the state. They are inherent, and while there are other states that infringe upon and violate the rights of their citizens more than Israel does to its Arab citizens, the situation in Israel is nevertheless abysmal and indefensible. Not to mention in the occupied territories.

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    • Blake  September 15, 2012 at 1:10 am

      Mike: How about the right of self determination on their own land (as opposed to being under the law of an imposter) and that RIGHT OF RETURN that is in international law. Tough gig defending the indefensible.

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  74. Mike  September 14, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Therefore the destruction of Israel, G-D forbid, would also be a tragedy for the arabs living therein.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm

      But the collapse of the racist Zionist regime in Israel would be a blessing not only for the Arabs living there, but for the Jews, as well, and a blessing to the whole world.

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      • Aaron Roll  September 14, 2012 at 9:20 pm

        So now you put yourself as the representative of the “world government”
        Since when you are talking on behalf of the world citizen? many people with the same thinking are the client of closed – locked-up establishments.

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 14, 2012 at 11:08 pm

          Would you like to try to produce a rational comment?

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          • Thomas  September 15, 2012 at 10:07 pm

            Ahhh ! The epitome of the loving mindset of the Publisher of ” The Dearborn Independent “. In your spare time time you push pins in a doll of Netanyahu and sprinkle chicken blood all over him. If Israels’ Zionist movement is RACIST the what would one refer to you as ????????????????????????

          • Jeremy R. Hammond
            Jeremy R. Hammond  September 16, 2012 at 8:09 am

            Um. Anti-racist.

          • Blake  September 16, 2012 at 4:15 am

            Hasbara central are really pressed. Dearborn figures prominently in their infestation on blogs, defending the indefensible is a tough gig.

  75. Ira Weinstein  September 14, 2012 at 11:56 am

    There is One with authority that decides about Israel, the United States and every other country. That is the Lord God of Creation, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. His decision is final, the Jewish People will remain forever. No country will ever destroy her or her people. Isaiah 66.22. Yes, there will be a time in the future, and after reading this article and some of the responses, that day might not be too far off in the horizon, God will gather all the nations of the world against Jerusalem to battle. The U.S. no doubt will be part of them. And the armies of the nations will have their way with Israel, for a time. Jerusalem will be captured. The houses rifled, and the women raped. And then the Lord will come and fight against those Gentile armies and destroy them all. Their flesh will consume away while they stand on their feet. Their eyes will consume away in their holes, and their tongue will conume away in their mouth. That will be the end of this world as we know it. The Messiah will return to Israel and her people will stand. And Messiah will set up His Messianic Kingdom. And He, the Lord God of Israel will be King over all the earth. Read Zechariah chapter 14. Mr. Jeremy Hammond, if you are the editor of this blog, do you have the Chutzpah, the Courage not to delete it? And for the information of all you lovers and haters of the Jews and Israel, Israel was given to the Jewish People for an everlasting possession some 4,000 years ago. And never to the Palestinians or anyone else. Israel’s final borders will extend to the Euphrates River, and include Lebanon and much of Jordan, Genesis 15.18-21. And for you Jewish People, The Lord God and Messiah who will save you and Israel from total destruction, and save the Jewish People from annihilation, and bring many Jews and Gentiles into His Messianic Kingdom in Israel, and later into New Jerusalem in eternity is the One you have rejected for too long. He is Yeshua the Messiah. The world knows Him better as Jesus.

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm

      For someone who employs a religious argument citing the Bible, you sure demonstrate a greivous lack of knowledge of what it actually says. I’ll repeat my previous comment to another who employed this religious argument to defend Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians. I don’t know if you are doing so, but the observations about the story the Bible actually tells are nevertheless still relevant:

      Woe to you, hypocrite! You invoke the scriptures to justify Zionist repression and theft of Palestinian land, but you ignore the broken covenant with Yahweh!

      “You shall therefore keep all My statutes and all My judgments, and perform them, that the land where I am bringing you to dwell may not vomit you out.” (Leviticus 20:22)

      “But if you do not obey Me, and do not observe all these commandments … but break My covenant … I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it. I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you; your land shall be desolate and your cities waste … You shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.” (Leviticus 26: 14, 15, 32-33, 28)

      “Therefore Yahweh was very angry with Israel, and removed them from His sight; there was none left but the tribe of Judah alone…. So Israel was carried away from their own land to Assyria, as it is to this day.” (2 Kings 17:18, 23)

      “And I said, after [Israel] had done all these things, ‘Return to Me.’ But she did not return. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it. Then I saw that for all the causes for which backsliding Israel had committed adultery, I had put her away and given her a certificate of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear, but went and played the harlot also.” (Jeremiah 3: 7-8)

      Woe to you, hypocrite! You invoke the scriptures to justify Zionist repression and theft of Palestinian land, but you have neglected the more important matters of the law.

      “You shall not murder.” (Exodus 20:13)

      “You shall not steal.” (Exodus 20:15)

      “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house … nor anything that is your neighbor’s.” (Exodus 20:17)

      So perhaps we could please leave religion out of it.

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      • Thomas  September 15, 2012 at 10:12 pm

        Your hermeneutics are horrible. You might want to quote the WHOLE BOOK instead of preaching your extractions. You lost all credibility with this MISUSE of Scripture.

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 15, 2012 at 10:40 pm

          Using the word “hermeneutics” in a sentence and suggesting I quote whole books of the Bible doesn’t constitute a rebuttal.

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      • Just a watchmen  September 26, 2012 at 4:51 am

        You quote scriptures that describe God’s wrath on Israel for it’s turning away from him. In so doing, you must also quote the words from the very same creator who promised forgiveness and in bringing back the jews to their lands and God’s own words that his covenant is forever. Do not rip quotes from the Bible to twist meanings that are not there. That is a foolish game for you. The context of the quotes of which you made are to show God’s wrath on his people over their continued worship of neighboring false gods and practices and turning their back on him. I have given you other quotes that show God’s promise to return them to their own lands, and he has done so, in 1948. Biblical, historical and archeological evidence is against you my friend. You wail against the wind in the night Mr. Hammond. Your protests notwithstanding, you can not and will not prevail in your point of view.

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        • Jeremy R. Hammond
          Jeremy R. Hammond  September 26, 2012 at 7:00 pm

          It is not I who has ripped quotes from the Bible to twist its meaning. Not that the religious argument has any place here, but point being that even within that framework, the Zionist claims are false.

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  76. Philip Kirschner  September 14, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Why would god take away what he has given? How is steal land that god gave to the jewish people theft? Yes, after the death of Christ, the peoople went in so many different directions. Christ gave his life willingly. If it were not for his death, we would not have ever lasting life. Why do you hate seeing his holy city under the control of the JEWISH people? Have you ever read the KORAN?

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 14, 2012 at 4:10 pm

      Once again, this religious argument has no place here. But even within that framework, it is false for the reasons I’ve already given.

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    • Blake  September 15, 2012 at 1:13 am

      Philip & Ira: Seriously whack(os). None of you zionist trolls have a rational argument. Even the Bible states that the gentiles have become the chosen people of God because you rejected Christ. Need the verses?

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      • Thomas  September 15, 2012 at 10:15 pm

        Yes we do because according to Paul (Romans 9 & 10) your claim is absurd. I understand why you think this way because I too used to make such claims by extracting fragments of LETTERS to bolster my position. You see, Paul wrote LETTERS, not fragments and when I applied “context” to your claims ….well lets just say you look pretty naive about the Genesis to Revelation thing.

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        • Blake  September 16, 2012 at 4:20 am

          The Bible is not a land deed but if you insist:

          If the reprobates who spout Genesis 12:3 would bother to read Galatians 3:14 : “ He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. “ it’s quite clear that the “blessing” referred to there in Genesis 12:3 is in fact Jesus Christ. Not the “Jews” or “Israel”.

          Hebrews 8 says: verse 6– ”But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.”

          Moses Himself said TO THE JUDEANS at the time that in their final days God will rise up a Prophet and they MUST listen to Him and in the Books of Moses through to Revelations reinforce this idea that there would be a new religion of Christ that would replace the temporary religion of Moses. In Galatians Paul explained to the Judeans of his time that there is a New Covenant and that those that follow Christ are the sons of Abraham.

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  77. Thomas  September 15, 2012 at 10:01 pm

    You know what is truly amazing ? The gross ignorance of the TRUE FACTS concerning Israels’ existence, origin and future. When the smoke clears – regardless when that occurs – the remaining people of Israel along with OUR GOD will be the last ones “laughing”. He who laughs last, laughs longest. Israel is the “Apple of Yahs’ eyes” and the rest of the world is rotten to the core where the “love of the TRUTH” is concerned. You dissenters keep on hating on Israel because it reveals something about you much deeper than geo-political issues !

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    • Blake  September 16, 2012 at 4:22 am

      So what is your legal, moral & ethical right to occupy Palestine at the expense of the native Palestinians then?

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    • Jeremy R. Hammond
      Jeremy R. Hammond  September 16, 2012 at 8:08 am

      If you don’t hate Israel’s ethnic cleansing of Palestine, theft of Palestinian land, and ongoing oppression of the Palestiian people, that reveals about as much about you as anyone here need know.

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  78. Justice at last  September 16, 2012 at 8:05 am

    Great article Franklin Lamb and excellent research from the 16 US organisations.

    Finally, the good American majority are waking up to the crimes of the illegal, alien, Khazar colonial entity planted in the heart of West Asia and of its Global Lobby. They have exceeded all bounds of humanity and decency, systematically killing the rightful owners of the land for the last 70 years and sowing strife throughout the region and world.

    Superb use of scripture Jeremy R. Hammond! All decent people salute you. Also kudos Blake for speaking truth to criminal, immoral hasbara of liars. The whole world is fed up to the back teeth of Israel and the only way for this illegitimate creature, is down. No amount of Global Israeli bluster, hubris and bravado about Samson options can change this fact. Yisghael has done one too many genocides, thefts, invasions, assassination and false flags like 9/11 for anyone to care when it croaks. There is a God, He is the God of all and He is swift at reckoning.

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  79. JPL  September 16, 2012 at 10:53 am

    So Where is this Report?
    Before we get all excited and start a verbal nuclear exchange, could we first see a copy of this alleged report?

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    • Faraway  September 19, 2012 at 1:07 am

      After searching for it everywhere on the net, I conclude that this report is a fiction by Franklin Lamb. An exercise in wishful thinking, I suppose. A useful trick, for the comments it provokes are extremely revealing of how far the zionists are prepared to go.

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  80. Lion of Judah  September 23, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    As someone who lives in Israel and believes in God and the whole Bible as truth, I am glad that Israel is the safest country in the world.

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    • Blake  September 27, 2012 at 8:50 am

      American arms and charity is not God and you are certifiably insane.

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  81. LOL  September 24, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Wow the Megaphone trolls are here in force.

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  82. michael cangemi  September 25, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Many even since the 1970’s like historian Alfred Lilienthal concluded with much documentaion the same thing. Israel is the problem. Their Talmudic/Pharisaic/Kababistic philossphy specifically. The financial plug needs pulled till they can act like a decent nation…most if not all its founders were Khazar decendants-NOT Hebrews anyway. This report is way over do,as well as the actions it calls for!

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    • JFK  September 25, 2012 at 3:53 pm

      A few topics covered in the comments…

      Re. Samson Option. Blackmail describes this policy best. No nation state on earth has such a policy, except Israel, not even ones that are being sanctioned and threated on a daily basis… like Iran for instance. Amazing.

      Re. Palestinian Identity. If there’s no such thing as a Palestinian, there’s equally no such thing as an Israeli, especially when his/her ancestors have lived in various countries around the world for generations and have been citizens of those nations for generations. Unless of course, we’re supposed to allocate special consideration for special people called Jews who deserve a special land that their historic and tribally ethnocentric texts from 2000 years ago tells them is “their” land.

      Re. Islamic Fundies vs Zionist Fundies. Both these sets of clowns are hell bent on returning to a feudal way of life, politically, economically and spiritually. BOTH need to feel the back of America’s hand across their faces, the sooner the better. This should be America’s NEW policy in the ME. A whole decade of pandering to one set of clowns has finished America’s reputation as an honest broker in the minds of millions of moderates in that part of the world. And all to America’s detriment (arab spring etc).

      To the Evangelical Christian right: please, by all means, leave America and go live in Israel. Go seek your salvation up close and personal. And we’ll see how fast you change your mind and come running back. Delusions are a priviledge for those who dont have to walk the walk.

      Cheers.

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    • Bill Knotts  September 25, 2012 at 4:43 pm

      Excellent.

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    • American Patriot  September 26, 2012 at 4:49 am

      Right On!!!

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  83. geronimo  September 25, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Amused to see how hasbara clowns drive themselves at full steam. I suspect that behind the claims that Palestinians never exected are genocidal tendencies and murderous lust to exterminate the rest of the indegenous population in Israhell. presumably, to prove that they were correct in saing so. One such a clown, cannot remember which one, mentioned that Palestinians never had a state, therefore, I presume that they are not supposed to exist. Well said boy, but people who call themselves “Jews” have never had a state, nor actually American Indians or many other people like Tasmanians or Caribbs. Khazars had something similar to a state but present day zionists do not like to talk about it. Although their existence cannot be denied, most of these small nations have perished without a trace to perpetrators of numerous genocides, which somehow fits with the current zionist dreams and desires.

    I admire the patience of Jeremy Hammond but hope that he will soon cut the clowns to size as this parade of imbeciles and pathological liars is becoming somewhat tedious.

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  84. Steve  September 25, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Brother Geronimo: It’s not only Palestinians who the jews lust to exterminate, my friend. White European nations all over the planet have been targeted by these hate filled jewish supremacists for genocide and that is the reason why these historic White European nations are being flooded by millions of third world aliens. The goal is genocide – to be accomplished by using multi-culturalism and virulently anti-White, jewish invented Cultural Marxism to (a) reduce Whites to minorities inside every historic White European nation, (b) Thereby subjugating White European people to permanent and hostile rule within their own native homelands by a motley collection of non-Europeans from every third world failed nation on the planet, (c) thereby depriving White European people of their God-given, natural right to self-rule and self-determination by placing their futures in the hands of non-whites who largely hate and despise them.

    And, the worst aspect of all this jewish evil is how the treasonous White elites inside these historic White nations are going along with the jews and helping them to destroy their nations and genocide their own people.

    I predict that it is going to require physical resistance and a lot of blood being shed in order to put a permanent halt to this effort to genocide White European people. And, when that day
    arrives, let us all remember that the first priority that must be addressed is to resolve this problem of race treason by our White elites.

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  85. jaydi  September 26, 2012 at 3:24 am

    From the Jewish Talmud:
    1) If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. –Moed Kattan 17a
    2) If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God. –Sanhedrin 58b
    3) A Jew need not pay a Gentile (“Cuthean”) the wages owed him for work. –Sanhedrin 57a
    4) If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile (“heathen”) it does not have to be returned.
    -Baba Mezia 24a also in Baba Kamma 113b
    5) When a Jew murders a Gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep. –Sanhedrin 57a
    6) Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel”. –Baba Kamma 37b
    7) All Gentile children are animals. –Yebamoth 98a
    8) Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth. –Abodah Zarah 36b
    9) Only Jews are human (“Only ye are designated men”). –Baba Kattan 114a-114b
    10) Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile. –Baba Kamma 113a and two rabbis:
    11) Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, “We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing.” -NY Times, June 6, 1989
    12) Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” -NY Daily News, Feb 28, 1994

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    • stas  September 6, 2013 at 3:29 pm

      yea but 70% of Israelis are non religious… so that books are just rubbish

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      • Malik  July 24, 2014 at 3:58 am

        You mean 70% Israelis have no issue with Jerusalem having International status as envisaged by UN resolutions?

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  86. Stance  September 26, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    I would like very much to see the US get a divorce from Israel. To be associated with such a rogue country, US gets a very bad reputation!

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  87. Jerry Mazza  September 27, 2012 at 1:42 am

    As to Ayn Rand as a major influence on uber-right-wing Catholic Paul Ryan, Ms. Rand was born Alisa Rosenbaum to a Jewish family. Her father was a pharmacist, her mother the daughter of a tailor who made uniforms for the Bolsheviks. Ms. Rosenbaum was not religious, in fact, she was an atheist, and one with a restless spirit.

    She moved to America as a young woman to live with a family aptly named Portnoy. After a stay with them, she was restless again and moved to Hollywood to become the screenwriter named Ayn Rand. Despite her resentment for “moochers” and “parasites,” when she was still older and had throat cancer, she had no qualms about using her husband’s Social Security, Frank O’Conner, to collect benefits. She went under the name, Ann O’Connor.

    As to supporting causes, few people know that she was a major donor to Israel and felt it imperative that all Jews should keep the country alive with contributions. These facts come from Jennifer Burns’ excellent biography of Rand “Goddess of the Market: Ayn Rand and the American Right.”

    As to the title, Rand was embraced ideologically by none other than “free market” maven Alan Greenspan and Chicago University’s “free market” Professer Martin Friedman. She continues to be an “inspiration” to the right, ironically for her callousness towards entitlements, for Social Security, Medicare, and any assistance to the poor, the aged and disabled.
    Regards,
    Jerry Mazza,
    Associate Editor,
    http://www.intrepidreport.com.

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  88. arthurdecco  September 27, 2012 at 8:12 am

    Wow!

    I’ve only gotten to the fourth page of comments after starting with the earliest comment and already the Hasbarabots, (Israel’s braying and squawking hate-filled, lying minions), have taken over the narrative, high-fiving each other one after another, praising each other for their superior intelligence and their awesome command of the facts, when in fact, substantiated facts are few and far between in the twisted, convoluted, dishonest and unfocused narratives I have been forced to read in the interests of fairness.

    And speaking of Intelligence? Not a whiff of it. Intelligence is not a word I could use to describe the mechanics behind their convoluted and illogical arguments. Unimaginative, by-rote, Talmudic thinking comes to mind instead.

    The fact is these propagandist liars are amongst the stupidest people I have ever had the misfortune to read – there’s no substance or form to their arguments beyond what they provide for each other. Paste and Post. Paste and Post. Paste and Post! Apparently they’re incapable of individually formulating a convincing argument in defense of their indefensibly rotten-to-the-core criminal conspiracy they identify as “their god-given country” – in reality a monstrous cancer squatting and destroying a plot of land they have no legal right to.

    Pathetic really…especially after all these years of having their “superiority” and “choseness” shoved down my throat by the even more deluded propagandists forced on us by our now-discredited wholly-owned-by-Zionists MSM.

    Bush-league liars, everyone of them posting here, bordering on simpletons.

    These dangerously deluded, stupid, junk-yard-mean people, who describe themselves as “the Chosen” aren’t worth the food it takes to sustain them.

    I wish there was a button I could click on that would relegate their preposterous nonsense and hatred of everything not them to the ether. They’re only here to fill up space and discourage the curious from finding the truth behind their endless lies.

    They deserve nothing of our attention.

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  89. Sam Weiss  August 9, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    I saw this article at wariscrime No More Israel In Ten Years. http://wariscrime.com/new/no-more-israel-in-10-years/

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  90. john  August 15, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    been reading with amused to what some of the people type, some of the things are complete lies, some are just stupid.

    few things:

    1 the jewish people had Israel way before Islam (mohammad start seeing visions in the desert) and before ‘Palestinians’ decided to be a nation at 1967 or before any of the groups decided to become a nation.

    2. Islam is nothing but pure evil. nothing good came out of that ‘religion’. every where that muslims resides there is bloodshed.

    non forgiving violent religion that shows no respect to other ethnic or religion groups. please read http://thereligionofpeace.com/
    3. The US aid.
    nothing is free.
    most of the money goes back to the US before it comes out. Israel has to purchase its equipment from the US and with larger numbers. US gain a real ally and friend. US gain a safe place for its bases, free intelligence and control the russian influence from there. Israel is the best deal they ever had.

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  91. Azzy  August 3, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    Its actually true, if the US indeed divorces Israel, it would be a win-win situation for all! The muslims would be happy and the US would be happy too!

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