Bush Convicted of War Crimes in Absentia

Kuala Lumpur — It’s official; George W Bush is a war criminal.

In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former US President and seven key members of his administration were yesterday (Fri) found guilty of war crimes.

Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia.

The trial held in Kuala Lumpur heard harrowing witness accounts from victims of torture who suffered at the hands of US soldiers and contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan.

They included testimony from British man Moazzam Begg, an ex-Guantanamo detainee and Iraqi woman Jameelah Abbas Hameedi who was tortured in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison.

At the end of the week-long hearing, the five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered guilty verdicts against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their key legal advisors who were all convicted as war criminals for torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment.

Full transcripts of the charges, witness statements and other relevant material will now be sent to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council.

The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission is also asking that the names of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Yoo, Bybee, Addington and Haynes be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals for public record.

The tribunal is the initiative of Malaysia’s retired Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, who staunchly opposed the American-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

He sat through the entire hearing as it took personal statements and testimonies of three witnesses namely Abbas Abid, Moazzam Begg and Jameelah Hameedi. The tribunal also heard two other Statutory Declarations of Iraqi citizen Ali Shalal and Rahul Ahmed, another British citizen.

After the guilty verdict reached by five senior judges was delivered, Mahathir Mohamad said: “Powerful countries are getting away with murder.”

War crimes expert and lawyer Francis Boyle, professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law in America, was part of the prosecution team.

After the case he said: “This is the first conviction of these people anywhere in the world.”

While the hearing is regarded by some as being purely symbolic, human rights activist Boyle said he was hopeful that Bush and Co could soon find themselves facing similar trials elsewhere in the world.

“We tried three times to get Bush in Canada but were thwarted by the Canadian Government, then we scared Bush out of going to Switzerland. The Spanish attempt failed because of the government there and the same happened in Germany.”

Boyle then referenced the Nuremberg Charter which was used as the format for the tribunal when asked about the credibility of the initiative in Malaysia. He quoted: “Leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit war crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any person in execution of such a plan.”

The US is subject to customary international law and to the Principles of the Nuremberg Charter said Boyle who also believes the week-long trial was “almost certainly” being monitored closely by both Pentagon and White House officials.

Professor Gurdial Singh Nijar, who headed the prosecution said: “The tribunal was very careful to adhere scrupulously to the regulations drawn up by the Nuremberg courts and the International Criminal Courts”.

He added that he was optimistic the tribunal would be followed up elsewhere in the world where “countries have a duty to try war criminals” and he cited the case of the former Chilean dictator Augustine Pinochet who was arrested in Britain to be extradited to Spain on charges of war crimes.

“Pinochet was only eight years out of his presidency when that happened.”

The Pinochet case was the first time that several European judges applied the principle of universal jurisdiction, declaring themselves competent to judge crimes committed by former heads of state, despite local amnesty laws.

Throughout the week the tribunal was packed with legal experts and law students as witnesses gave testimony and then cross examination by the defence led by lawyer Jason Kay Kit Leon.

 The court heard how

  • Abbas Abid, a 48-year-old engineer from Fallujah in Iraq had his fingernails removed by pliers.
  • Ali Shalal was attached with bare electrical wires and electrocuted and hung from a wall.
  • Moazzam Begg was beaten, hooded and put in solitary confinement.
  • Jameelah was stripped and humiliated, and was used as a human shield whilst being transported by helicopter.

The witnesses also detailed how they have residual injuries till today.

Moazzam Begg, now working as a director for the London-based human rights group Cageprisoners said he was delighted with the verdict, but added: “When people talk about Nuremberg you have to remember those tried were all prosecuted after the war.

“Right now Guantanamo is still open, people are still being held there and are still being tortured there.”

In response to questions about the difference between the Bush and Obama Administrations, he added: “If President Bush was the President of extra-judicial torture then US President Barak Obama is the President of extra judicial killing through drone strikes. Our work has only just begun.”

The prosecution case rested on proving how the decision-makers at the highest level President Bush, Vice-President Cheney, Secretary of Defence Rumsfeld, aided and abetted by the lawyers and the other commanders and CIA officials – all acted in concert. Torture was systematically applied and became an accepted norm.

According to the prosecution, the testimony of all the witnesses exposed a sustained perpetration of brutal, barbaric, cruel and dehumanising course of conduct against them.

These acts of crimes were applied cumulatively to inflict the worst possible pain and suffering, said lawyers.

The president of the tribunal Tan Sri Dato Lamin bin Haji Mohd Yunus Lamin, found that the prosecution had established beyond a “reasonable doubt that the accused persons, former President George Bush and his co-conspirators engaged in a web of instructions, memos, directives, legal advice and action that established a common plan and purpose, joint enterprise and/or conspiracy to commit the crimes of Torture and War Crimes, including and not limited to a common plan and purpose to commit the following crimes in relation to the “War on Terror” and the wars launched by the U.S. and others in Afghanistan and Iraq.”

President Lamin told a packed courtroom: “As a tribunal of conscience, the Tribunal is fully aware that its verdict is merely declaratory in nature. The tribunal has no power of enforcement, no power to impose any custodial sentence on any one or more of the 8 convicted persons. What we can do, under Article 31 of Chapter VI of Part 2 of the Charter is to recommend to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission to submit this finding of conviction by the Tribunal, together with a record of these proceedings, to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council.

“The Tribunal also recommends to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission that the names of all the 8 convicted persons be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals and be publicised accordingly.

“The Tribunal recommends to the War Crimes Commission to give the widest international publicity to this conviction and grant of reparations, as these are universal crimes for which there is a responsibility upon nations to institute prosecutions if any of these Accused persons may enter their jurisdictions”.

Yvonne Ridley

British journalist Yvonne Ridley is the West European Asst. Director-General of the International Muslim Women's Union. 
  • http://www.davidhillstrom.com David Hillstrom

    This is indeed a momentous decision, albeit rather symbolic for the time being, as the article points out. It is interesting that the Tribunal has forwarded it’s decision to the International Court. Od course no one would expect it to take action. And the US has exempted itself from recognizing such international indictments. Nonetheless, world opinion will continue to pressure the US to amend its policy of military aggression.

    • DragonTat2

      Interesting how US citizenry has begun to harness a voice above the msm. Many of us want Bush&Co tried for war crimes, and appreciate other countries who have followed through with such. It’s a long, slow process, so I am glad Cheney finally got a heart. I want him around when an International Court convenes.
      USAmerica has been a bully long enough.

    • Larry

      The US must extradite them to face charges or be labeled as harboring war criminals.

      • http://www.singingtruevoice.com ROSITA LA BELLO

        the next crime expose’ should be the destruction of TWIN TOWER 911 GROUND ZERO. THE BOSS will have all the time to read the “CHILDREN’S BOOKS “IN JAIL . hopefully Ben Laden will come out of the woodworks. that should be a great plot for “‘OPERA COMIQUE”,,#%&$@

  • http://ancroiait.wordpress.com/ Tuigim

    Well done KL.
    So, which country is next to arrest those who sold the war that hurt so many and left over 1,000,000 people dead. Spain used to lead the world on these war crimes trials. Maybe it will be next to try the war mongers.
    America? Oh how I wish it could find its moral compass!
    We cannot bury our heads in the sand. Our children already despair for their futures. How we have let them down!

  • DragonTat2

    Bravo. Well done, and thank you. I salute you…
    I am US American.

  • GeorgeNJ

    I suppose it had to start somewhere. May justice be served.

    • wlipman

      Couldn’t have put it better myself. Well done!

  • kerrog

    I hope this is not ignored and continued further until punishment is awarded to Bush &Co and next Obama and his terrorizing drones. We can’t continue this inhuman behavior. It has to stop. Go all the way, don’t stop till justice is served! I too am a very concerned and awake US Citizen.

  • Barbie

    How about going after those war mongrels in Africa.

  • Eric

    Okay your going to label President Bush as a war criminal then every Taliban and Al Qaeda group out there that has beheaded a prisoner needs to be put on trial. Every war mongering African dictator that does there version of ethnic cleansing needs to stand trial as well. When they appear before a court then I will say it is time to put our leaders before a world court. Remember we are the nation that the world calls when they need help but cry and bitch when we do it.

    • Monica

      I find it very surprising that you think that you are the nation that everybody calls when things go wrong….did you ever stop to think that no 1 in their right mind calls the US….it is the US that spends its time trying to POLICE the world, while pushing AGENDAS that are only beneficial to the chosen few in the USA. I for 1 was happy when your country was attacked on September 11 2001….you deserved it. How many times has America started unnecessary wars which ended up killing innocent civilians and or leaving them destitute?!
      How many governments have they overthrown simply because the leader refused to dance to their tune….which normally leaves the natives not benefitting from their natural resources while some US bigwigs are enjoying that wealth at the expense of that nation….so really, you NEED to STOP deluding yourself…your nation is being run by con-men, bullies, and murderers…who are no worse the paranoid pschitzophrenics.
      Obama is no different…he is just hiding behind his presidency….but every DOG has its day

      • Kevin Dwayne Hoke

        Where are you at Maybe it can be arranged.?

      • FunnyFilmFan

        I must say that first, I am an American. I’m $50,000 dollars in debt to a school I am about to graduate, I live in a rented house that cost $1050 dollars a month, and I have 2 roommates no better off than I.
        Right now I’m working 2 part-time jobs while looking for something I want to pursue in life.
        Welcome to most of America … its citizens trying to make it in our country the same as anyone in their own country. I myself, and no one else I know of, just sits here in America trying to think of ways to torture and police the world. Most of us are too busy trying to police ourselves.
        And so … these people, these everyday working class people who were born in a place called America and therefore are known as Americans, we DESERVED 9/11? How dare you!
        I don’t know enough about the world in lieu of my government. Maybe what everyone says is true, maybe my government is evil as hell and I just don’t know it. Maybe they just do what they can to try and help and people don’t like it. Or maybe it is somewhere in between … I don’t know.
        But what I DO know, is that no country, no peoples should have to experience a 9/11 and for you to say that we do, with such ire and malice in your words, you’re no better than any government, terrorist group, or dirty, rotten, no good, son of a bitch that would try to do harm to the people of this world just because you’re mad or feel you have a sense of justification for your actions.
        Now I don’t threaten, I don’t believe in it, and I rarely get mad, but you’re words have definitely sparked a flicker of patriotism in me and so I thank you for that. But, you should truly think about what you’ve said and wonder if it was worth saying, if the murder of over 3000 people like me, struggling and just trying to live is truly worth your words.

        • Tom

          Yah, but the people you elect do. Dumbass.

        • BettyBenson

          I imagine the millions of Iraqis felt the same way. People around the world say “Don’t accept anything from America because they are out to take more from you.” You should be directing your anger at our own government – our military/industrial complex, our Republican and Tea Partiers who are selling out our country to the Zionists International banking cabal through the Koch Brothers and the likes of Adelson (avowed Zionists and holders of dual nationality – U.S. and Israel). And don’t call me Anti-Semitic! I am Anti-Zionist – the movement that is behind so much of the world’s ills and controls almost every country on the planet through interest debt enslavement through Central Banks. Now why haven’t more Americans kept those influences out of our leadership? How many Americans actually vote? How many Americans actually tried to stop our “leadership” from screwing the rest of the world with lies, invasions, broken treaties, supporting exploitation of indigenous peoples through backing our corporations in foreign countries who loot and destroy cultures and leave pools of toxic waste that kill and sicken indigenous people? (View the documentary, Diary of an Economic Hit Man, and see what our elected leadership condones.) So you see, people do hold us accountable for our own government since we are a country who is free to vote for our own leadership.

          • Kasmak

            We average Americans don’t elect anyone anymore, corporations and money do. I promise if you look around, it’s much the same in a large number of other countries in the world. There’s criminals running the show all across the planet, not just here in America. Everyone blaming it all on the US government needs to pay attention closer to home and see how their local leaders have played a part in things all so they can get a piece of the pie. It’s a world-wide scourge upon humanity that hopefully we all wake up to one day and collectively tear down for the benefit of everyone on this planet.

        • http://twitter.com/lindawazza linda kemunto (@lindawazza)

          well put

    • Tom

      No, no one calls your nation for help. If there is no profit your nation doesn’t show. Your nation including yourself are a bunch of hypocrites.

    • suzannelehman

      The world did not call for help when we went to war in Iraq. In fact, many countries ran the other way, they knew there was no evidence to support an invasion of Iraq. There were massive world wide protests. Bush stated he had no regard for international law and operated above the law. This demotes his status as a civil leader of a democratic country to act outside the law. Yes, other jobs also, need to be put on trial, but the Taliban are not elected leaders of democratic countries and I would not expect them to honor any laws. They are lawless. It is watching a democratically elected leader behave with wonton disregard in this matter and cause great hardship for Iraq, America and it’s military, and for the world at large, that I find problematic And these leaders need to be tried and be held accountable for their actions. “We are the nation that the world calls”…..the often does not call us, we tell ourselves this.

    • Pueblo Geztoppo

      I guess its your turn to cry & bitch then Eric!

  • C.B.

    As an American who was against the Iraq War since before it even started, I am proud to see that Kuala Lumpur has taken the lead to hold these war criminals to account. They led our country into a completely unnecessary war, leading to the deaths and injury of well over a million people, to settle a political score and to further enrich the MIC. Now, all we have to do is get the rotten bastards to leave the country…

  • denk

    torture ?
    thats childs play
    fukus has been getting away with *supreme international crime* forchrissake

    chief American prosecutor, Robert Jackson, at the neuremberg trial
    * a war of aggression “is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.*

    anyway, as any rookie journo learn on his first day on the job
    *dog bites man* is non news
    well, fukus *wasting* away civilians is like *dog bites man* these days

    in case u havent noticed
    the most pressing *hr* issue now is the saga of chen guanchen
    that blind activist *persecuted* by the ccp,
    tinyurl.com/7lohlrh ;-)

  • David Parker

    Bravo! Well done! I am a US citizen and I support this conviction. I hope that International law is applied and these guys are listed as war criminals. I support efforts to prosecute them in other jurisdictions. What better way to prevent abuse of power. Every one of these guys are indeed war criminals. Let the world know that all Americans aren’t awful people. These guys were simply common criminals that committed unspeakable tragedies.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXyLrTRXso Anonymous

    Warning to the World. We are Occupied.


    The result is inevitable…

  • Chuck Clark

    Great News!!! I’d like to see all of these people do significant jail time. They not only created crimes against other nations and people… what they did impacted their own country and many, many citizens of the U.S. Along with deaths of our military, etc., they helped wreck the economy with the expense of their wars.

    From a Marine Veteran of Viet Nam.

    • barry james

      jail time,how about a public hanging

  • michael

    Maybe once Myanmar finds the courage to go after its own human rights abusers then this will hold water. Until then, I think maybe they should pull the log out of their own eye before they go after the speck in their neighbors.

    • Kellie T

      So sorry to ruin your rock-solid defensive argument but Kuala Lumpur is in Malaysia.

  • barry eisenberg

    Lock ‘em all up and throw away the keys.



  • David K. M. Klaus

    This “court” was a farce. Malaysia has no jurisdiction over American citizens who have never set foot in that country, and no defense was offered or considered. Under recognized rules of jurisprudence, there has to be an impartial judge in a court of competent jurisdiction, and there has to be defense counsel arguing for the defendent. Until such time as that occurs, you cannot say Bush is guilty of a crime. You can believe so (I believe so), but a belief does not have the force of law. Only a properly conducted trial has the force of law.

    • John Thompson

      You are not correct.

      This court was convened under the rules of the Geneva Convention.

      Every signatory to that convention has a responsibility to convene just such a court.

      Now that this court has been convened, the evidence heard and the guilty verdict rendered, all strictly by the book, then yes, I CAN say Bushco are guilty of war crimes.

      Further, you have it exactly backward this WAS a properly conducted trial, and it DOES have the force of law.

      According to our Constitution, the treaties we sign with other nations have the force of law, and you can be assured that this court followed the law of the Geneva Convention scrupulously within the letter of that law.

  • David K. M. Klaus

    Monica (if that is actually your name): You were *happy* that almost 3,000 innocent men, women, and children were murdered in a cowardly fashion? Who did the dead firefighters hurt? They spent all their lives helping people. Father Mykel was an Episcopal priest and a gay man. What harm did he do anybody.

    You have given your support to a work of Evil. You are shameful. You need to examine your soul.

    • Scott Feeney

      dunno why ANYBODY would be happy about that one, David.. Perhaps you should ask the Israeli guys in the van..??

      As for recognised law, David, the US under Bush repeatedly said it DOES NOT recognise international law, including the Hague, long before things ” hit the fan” with 911.

      This was the ( near ) beginning of their arrogance visa vie Justice of ALL kinds… )

      I assume this is YOUR country David, by your tone, be aware that human rights have been seriously damaged in the US because of these people. You should ask yourself if YOUR rights are recognised in YOUR nation.

      IE WIll the US uphold and defend your ( dissappearing ) rights. Whether Malaysia has any jurisdiction is NOT the point, at all.

      The US, via the CIA renditions HAS overidden the rights of citizens world wide, often with their governments secret approval, if THAT does offend your sensibilities, then now you know how we outside the US feel, about this, one of many grand betrayals of not only the US people, but the worlds freedom, fragile and nominal as it may be.

      The “Farce,” David is the repeated arrogance of US actions and policy, even towards it so called “friends.”

      • BettyBenson

        Thank you for speaking the truth. I will never understand how people can’t seem to realize the extent of the horrors Bush and Cheney and their “gang” inflicted on 1.5 million iraqis – men, women and children – innocents and what I call the murder of 6,000 Americans! Remember, there wasn’t any factional fighting in Iraq before the U.S. invasion. The question of 9/11 is still open – and the truth of that attack is still far from being revealed. Was the government of Bush/Cheney and gang capable of plotting and carrying out the attacks on 9/11 resulting in about 3,000 people dead? They lied their way into leading us into invading a country and murdering about 6,000 of our own military personnel, and approximately 1.5 million Iraqis without a second thought! Any American who still believes the invasion of Iraq was justified and Bush and Cheney and their gang are innocent “defenders” is a total fool.

  • http://aol Pedro Nieto

    There are many indications that 9/11 was a “false flag” operation. Just the fact that a supossed retaliation turned into a 10 year or more INVASION should make anyone wonder, if we were retaliating why are we still there??? Was it the oil in Iraq??? Is it the minerals in the mountains of Afganistan that the Russians wanted and couldn’t get so now we go after them?? Whether it’s true or not, that is what the world accusses us of because of our past history. The reality is that this so called war has made many people richer while we the masses are poorer. WHY???

  • Dustin

    Hey Monica, fuck you!

  • http://aol Pedro Nieto

    You guys have the power to pick and choose, so do whatever you want. “By their actions we will know them”.

  • scheming mamaks

    Dr M is another crook. Now it’s 2 of the world’s biggest bad guys kicking each other. Dr M’s action will result in the BN government getting whacked in the coming General Election,which will be the dirtiest election with people like Dr M in the thick of scheming. His own life is on the line, so are those of his cronies. Now the Malays are busy selling off their ill gotten gains and buying properties in UK, Australia and USA. They are rats running away from the sinking ship. Dr M and Bush deserve each other. Let the two annihilate each other.

  • David Andrews

    Sadly, this trial will indeed be seen only as something symbolic, but I personally wish it would gain acceptance as so much more. The antics of Bush and Blair (and their cronies) have made messes of many people’s lives – not just the lives of those who were personally involved in having to enact the conflict (on both sides, and especially those who were not directly involved but who suffered what is euphemistically called ‘collateral damage’), but also of every non-belligerent American and British citizen who is now seen as a legitimate target by the people that the US and UK governments like to think of as terrorists.

    Bush and Blair should have been on death row years ago for their crimes. So much for the official ‘justice’ systems, eh?

  • Grace

    Thank God for this. Thousands of children went to their deaths for no good reason. May Bush,now Obama for Afghanistan, and every other politician that supported this travesty get the death penalty for their war crimes against children.

    • Peter Grenader

      Hey Grace – i have to call a fowl. Your inclusion of Obama in Afghanistan is speculative at best. While we’ve been plagued recently by some very stupid acts by some very overworked infantrymen, it’s a different situation. You don’t see these types of inquiries coming against this current administration for a reason.

      • Jane Farlow

        Peter, I must take exception to your calling a “fowl”. That’s a bird. You are calling a foul, as in sports. Otherwise, I completely agree with you.

  • Michael

    If Malaysia issues arrest warrants for these individuals wouldn’t any country with which the Malays have legal or criminal receprocity treaties be compelled to arrest Bush et al should they set foot on their soil?

  • Nora

    Monica: You are sick! How one could say that those innocent people, children included, deserved that us just plain sick. I feel so sorry for you and pray that God has mercy on your soul on Judgment day.

    • BettyBenson

      Nora – I hope you feel the same way about the 1.5 million innocent people we killed – murdered – in Iraq and the 6,000 military whose deaths we caused through lies and manipulation of the public.

  • Janalee MaCurdy

    About damn time!

  • Barry Roope

    Well I guess Bush won’t ever go to Malaysia, Maybe I’ll go, damn, it’s nice not being a war criminal.

    • Kevin Groenhagen

      And to think that Bush sent all that aid to Malaysia after the 2005 tsunami. There’s gratitude for you.

      • Dave

        Malaysia didn’t ask for or receive any aid following the 2004 tsunami as it wasn’t particularly badly affected. Was there a 2005 tsunami as well which specifically affected the region but didn’t make the news and where Malaysia did receive aid?

        You may be thinking of Indonesia which, for your information, is a completely different country. Bush sent nothing to Malaysia, so the country has nothing to be grateful to him for on that front.

        • AJP2565

          Kevin must be confused with the better late then never effort in New Orleans,LA. Your doing a heck of a job Brownie!

      • barry

        yes Busch sent aid,then turned around and decided well lets start torturing people and se if we can get info. If my fingernails were being plucked out with pliers I would admit to the kennedy assassination.

      • DWornock

        Although many USA citizens do, the USA government never sends aid to the people of other countries. They do gives bribes to the rulers of other coutries to do the bidding of the USA and then call that aid.

  • matthew

    All of you who claim to be Americans: If our country is so horrible, than leave. You won’t do it because you haven’t got the guts to do so. The world depends on us for everything from us buying their products, creating their jobs, cleaning up their countries after natrual disaster, and so on and so on. None of those men are war criminals. I think all you so called concerned Americans would renounce your citizenship and leave. It’s time the U.S. let these countries feed themselves and let’s see how long it takes them to start begging.

    • Marjory Morales

      Because we are powerful and offer aid to other countries does not give us the right to torture and kill people.In fact, having such power carries a responsibility to use it wisely well and with compassion.
      In fact those men are war criminals and it is you who is not a good American and should leave. A good American wants to improve his country,not defend criminals to look good. Everyone knows who these men are and to defend them is ludicrous.

    • Greg Colvin

      Matthew, I don’t claim to be American, I am American. And I don’t want to leave my country, I want to reform it. None of the good things you mention us doing can make up for the fact that our leaders are criminals who order “Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment,” in violation of both US and international law. If you are OK with that, I think you should leave.

    • Chad

      Most of us can’t leave the country. Contrary to popular belief, all of us Americans aren’t living in the lap of luxury. Most of us can barely afford to not be homeless.

      Some of us would leave if we could, but our country does restrict emigration as well. Most other countries wouldn’t take us if we could leave unless we had a Bachelor’s degree, and now those of us who have one can’t leave because of the crushing debt of obtaining one.

    • Greg Lambert


      I am an American. From the Revolutionary War to the present conflict in Afghanistan, a member of my family fought for our country and bled for our country.

      It’s Americans like you who bring the hatred from the rest of the world. Your elitist attitude and line of rhetoric do nothing but minimalize the rest of the citizens of the planet.

      It might behoove you to start thinking like an Earthling instead of an American.

      I welcome this finding of the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal. I would encourage them to issue warrants for the arrest of those found guilty.

    • ThePeopleNotThePig

      Uhhh wrong. Youre a tool. These men are war criminals by definition. Why do you explain everyones dependence on the USA at the same time as proclaiming innocence? Sounds more like youre saying: We do what we want cause you need us! bend over and take it because you dont have a choice!

      You cant torture people and invade countries because you feel like it asshole. Not to mention, perhaps the USA wouldnt be such a superpower without the intimidation and meddling in world affairs and stealing from mid eastern countries?

    • Marva Dasef

      “All of you who claim to be Americans: If our country is so horrible, than leave.”

      The problem with your statement is that you don’t even freaking know what an American is. You claim to be an American, then PROVE IT. Tell me how you think the Constitution has been upheld by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest. You can’t, because they are traitors. If you agree with what they’ve done, then you are a traitor. Ipso facto, you leave this country because you don’t even know what it’s all about.

      Read the Constitution and get back to us on your justification.

      And I’m not leaving because this is MY country, not yours. Please leave now before I serve a summons to have you removed for stupidity.

    • expatrick

      Hey, matthew! HEY! I did leave. I had it a lot better after I did, too. I made a wage I thought was fair, I didn’t have to fear for my safety on the streets, and my tax dollars weren’t going toward torture.

      Though, to be fair, I did miss my friends.

    • barry james

      when civil war comes I hope I find you

    • DWornock

      How stupid can you be. The USA’s iron curtain makes it extremely difficult to leave. If people were allow to take their assets with them, not be taxed in the USA for their wages in other countries, and if they could find countries that would accept them as citizens, Americans would be leaving by the millions.

    • WR

      @matthew: You and the no-doubt-hateful minority you identify with don’t decide who deserves to be called “American” or what the criteria are to live in the USA. I was born and live in North Carolina, and I want to CHANGE my country so it is not the empire dominating the world through military and economic intimidation, so it is not run by and for the benefit of banks and multinational corporations that have no loyalty to the American people and are not interested in the prosperity of all. The people running our country (and world) are only interested in control, not what’s best for the population, the environment, for peace; nothing except greed and power is important to them. If the millions of us who want to make it better left, you’d quickly be living in a poverty-stricken desert hated around the world. It is only those of us who are trying to make it better that the world looks to with hope, not the killing machine you apparently support without any scrutiny.

    • jeannewilliams

      Matthew, “I” AM an American. I welcome this decision by the Malaysian courts if ONLY for the hope of having justice FINALLY served. The world may depend us, but WE ARE NOT the world police. What bush and company did was PURE evil. They know it and the rest of us knows it. They SHOULD be held accountable for their illegal and immoral actions. THAT is NOT how decent human beings behave, Matthew.

      “Torture is NOT American. It’s Republican.”

  • Richard Hooper

    This has been a long time coming, I knew back in his presidency that what he was doing were crimes against humanity. I am ashamed as a Canadian that my own government would impede attempts to arrest them, this sets a bad example for Canada to the world. Now I think the world will see the US for what it really is and has been since the cold war, Vietnam was another era their leadership should have been handled as war criminals for.

    Honestly I hope Bush and his cronies as well as Blair and his get a just reward for their crimes, and this sets both countries straight even if it may only be temporary.

  • Kevin Groenhagen

    If there were justice in the world, retired Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad would be sitting in a Malaysian prison for his corrupt and racist policies.

    • Scott Feeney

      definitely…! But to his credit he never condoned plucking citizens from his allied countries for a good ol alien probing, either… Mind you he DID accuse his number 2 of anal probing as revenge.. Hey Cheney, wanna be my new number 2…? …No, you cant bring your shotgun, sorry… Pity Mahathir wasnt Bush, all i am saying… at least that d be one down..

  • Richard Hooper

    Justice is blind, it has been blinded by ambition, greed, and money.

  • JD

    This comes as no surprise to anyone. I never agreed to the war in the first place,far too many loop holes in the “story” of 9/11. However, if your going to attack the US and its Presidancy “groupies”,don’t stop there! Why not the sick in the head ones we fought against? You know…Like the ones who *train* their armies to behead their enemies LIVE on tape and mail it to the families,cut body parts n mail it to their families,wrap bombs on their own children and get the US military to stop to give these children water,only to be blown up! Those who care so little for their children and wives that they use them as living bombs! And why are we re-building what we destroy during WAR? I don’t see any other country giving two cents worth to rebuild what they destroy here or any other country they battle against. And why are we teaching them to police their own country, see anyone else doing it?and why should we give care about their education,rights to vote and starving children who are looked at like dog poo by their own country? Why should we bother helping ANY country out who screams for americas help,wether its for war ( for those who think no-one does,learn your history!),starvation or aid for help for natural disasters etc! The bully you speak about is that America won’t be pushed around,when we stand to protect ourselvs and our people, where called bullys,if we sit and do nothing,were called chickens…frankly I believe America ought to behave in the same fashion as our country we are fighting against…it’ll stop a lot of this crap! Stop fixing what we destroy,its WAR. Stop feeding them etc, just do as they do,fight and be done with it,period! No one else gives a poo about america during war, and we ought to do the same…stop babying them! And since we’re on a roll for war criminals, be fair and get EVERYONE who’s involved or been involved! No one is innocent here! Its called WAR not patty cake! Why is it that only a few countries follow the genevia convention rules but no one else! If the country we battle doesn’t follow,than america doesn’t follow..stop your dang crying and look at what your own country does/doesn’t do during WAR! And if you so against america,get out if your here! Or stop screaming for america to help you,your country,your children,and get a life of your own by supporting your own country! This country didn’t get this powerful in less than 200 yrs by pacifying the world,and we ain’t going to start now!

    • Stevie

      Dude, paragraphs are your friend.

      I think you are making the same mistake so many Americans make, believing that the war in Iraq was a legitimate response to the 9/11 attacks.

      Seriously, Osama was found hiding out in Pakhistan for Christ’s sake.

      America was attacked by terrorists.
      You cannot declare war on terrorists, because they are not a real army, they are just a bunch of fanatics prepared to die, and kill, for a common cause.

      You are going to end up fighting people from all over the world, including people from your own country.

      This idea that terrorists are all from ‘over there’, that is a dangerous mind set.
      You do know why they use the phrase ‘home grown’, right?

      • Richard La France

        You are quite right, Stevie, and the only one to even hint at the truth as it stands right now.

        Here in America we have the biggest group of terrorists in the world. Their name is “The Tea Party”. They have plans for every nation on earth, and those plans include making life a living hell for the middle class and poor of every nation.

        They’ve done so much damage here in America already that I don’t know how long it will take to reverse it if given the chance.

        The Tea Party was co-founded by Charles and David Koch along with big tobacco. They recruited members over the internet and it has become a huge organization that has infiltrated our state and federal governments with an agenda to turn this nation into being run by corporations rather than the government.

        Fred Koch was their father. He co-founded The John Birch society, and his bigotry was not wasted on his two evil sons. There are two other sons but they are not on the side of these villains.

        They’ve bought politicians and paid them to do all the things necessary to see to it that they get their way and the people do not. We are supposed to be in charge of our politicians but they no longer listen to us. And too few are even speaking out against these Tea Party villains.

        We write our Congresspersons in protest and are mostly ignored. Every thing we voted for has been denied us in favor of corporate rule.

        But please watch out. They’re not stopping here. Look up the Trans Pacific Project (TPP) on the internet (it’s the only place you’ll find information that has leaked out about it). This involves twelve Pacific Rim Nations and it is highly secretive to the point that no legislators or citizens are allowed to know the contents. Thankfully there have been leaks and we are up against an upcoming fascist regime that will be taking over these twelve nations.

        There is likewise a plan for those of you across the Atlantic, so you’d best watch your corporations that might be in cahoots with ours because everything we know as a way of life is about to be gone unless we all come together and stop them.

        We Americans do not belong to the image the rest of the world has recently perceived of us. We like our diversity and what there is of Democracy. But that will be no more. The middle class and the poor are the enemy in their eyes and they are already doing everything in their power to put us down. They’re stealing our rights one by one and the finalization of the TPP will finish the task.

        This is an Oligarchy and it is the biggest threat to the U.S. Constitution ever. In fact, once their takeover is accomplished, we will have no Constitution.

        Please be aware that corporate rule is planned globally and if you don’t want to be slaves to these fascists, then join us in trying to stop them. They should be, all of them, arrested for treason and sedition but no one, despite the cries of the public, is doing anything to stop them.

        On top of it all, their back up group, the Evangelicals, are demanding that this become a Christian nation, and it will be run the same as the Mid-Eastern countries with religion being the focal point of any new laws they put down.

        And, speaking of laws, if this TPP is accomplished, other nations will be allowed to change our laws to their liking and we theirs. And that will be the same when the Atlantic portion of their plan is accomplished. So keep after your leaders and don’t allow them to take away what freedom you have.

        They have militia on the ready to take anyone out that disagrees with them, so you can obviously declare these people terrorists. They consist mainly of big oil, WalMart, and several others. We need to concentrate on green energy just to stop their flow of income. Their greed is what they live by and they have no use for the rest of us except as slaves to their corporations.

        I’m retired, but I don’t want to die living under fascism. I’ll fight until the end if I have to, but I can’t afford to go beyond the grocery store living on Social Security, and the fear that Senator Paul Ryan of the Tea Party wants to take our Social Security money and invest it on Wall Street for the wealthy.

        I’m afraid they’ll see a terrible upheaval here in the U.S. if they continue on the path they’ve chosen. We will not tolerate living under fascism. In case you’re not aware, during the two hours before the government shutdown last year, the Tea Party members in Washington, D.C. held a secret meeting at which they named Senator Eric Cantor “America’s First Dictator”.

        Our news services don’t allow reporting of what the Koch Brothers and their wealthy pals are up to, but just know that it is not going to be good for us common folk. I’ve never hated anyone in my life until this group of treasonistic scum came along.

        Please join the Americans you don’t hear about on the news in fighting this group of criminals. If you don’t, you will be next. Mark my word.

        • BettyBenson

          I agree with almost everything you said, Mr. LaFrance. Although i don’t blame it all on Evangelists – consider the fact that the Zionist international banking cabal (Rothschilds, et al) have us enslaved through interest debt and are buying up the Republican Party through the Koch Brothers and Stephen Adelson – avowed Zionists and holders of dual nationality with Israel. Between Evangelists (a fundamental religion similar to Zionism) and International Zionism our country has been socially engineered and is being led down the path into an oligarchy.

        • frank

          how long have you been in the democrat party?

        • Boxmug

          you are an idiot. The “biggest group of terrorists in the world. Their name is “The Tea Party” that kind of sentiment is like comparing the Nazi party cir. WW2 to the KKK (contemporary version). Get a grip

      • Boxmug

        ughm, misdirected, sure. but are you seriously trying to say that Iraq does not house terrorists and anti-Western sentiment? niggah please.

    • reality

      Why are we rebuilding their country? Billions in war-profiteering by Halliburton. Remember how they were gonna rebuild their country, then we decided that they couldn’t, then HB took 98.something% of the contracts? Preston Bush was also a war profiteer, gwb, just like gramps. Also, don’t forget that we know that no planes scrambled after the jets for over 45 minutes on 9/11. B and C allowed it to happen. They ARE the terrorists. They knew and could have stopped them…or did you miss those proven facts?

      • frank

        Halliburton got the contract because it is large enough to handle the job, no one even gen mtrs or McDonalds is bigger. So what higher someone else who couldn’t do the job? Also the current Obama administration also uses Halliburton for its support units but we don’t talk about that do we. Making a company the boogey man to attack an administration works it seems but it is sad when we only consider the competency of a company or govt. administration based only on what party is in when your man is in, The facts and conditions change I guess and we forget about the reason we hated them in the first place now..

    • kim bunchalastnames

      “and why should we give care about their education,rights to vote and starving children who are looked at like dog poo by their own country? ”

      because we are better than that. well, i thought so, anyway. now i’m not so sure.

  • Philip Molina

    Has everyone already forgotten about 9/11, and all the innocent American people that suffered and died in those buildings? We went to war with the Terrorist, innocent people die in war and that is a fact. The world needs to understand that if you fuck with America, America will fuck you 10 fold. In my opinion former President Bush, did the right thing by going to war against terrorism. America is not going to stand by and allow terrorism in their country to go on unpunished, period.

    • Stevie

      The problem is people like you really just do not what you are talking about.
      You were attacked by a group of militant extremists, made up mostly of people from Saudi Arabia, who had no ties to any actual government.
      What did you do then?
      You invaded Iraq, a sovereign nation that had absolutely nothing to do with the attacks.

      You tried to excuse it all sorts of reasons that turned out ot be nothing but lies.

      What we learned is that if you fuck with America, you’ll be okay because America will fuck up everyone else but the people who are actually responsible.

      Going to war against terrorism?
      Don’t make me laugh.

      Philip, please do not speak for America, you are most definitely not qualified.

    • Carma

      No, we did not forget about 9/11. It is because of 9/11 that we must not allow our own country to break international laws of warfare.

      Bush et al are guilty of breaking those laws and should be held accountable. If we do not hold our own leaders and militia accountable we have no foundation upon which to anticipate or expect other nations to act appropriately.

      Stevie is right, Philip. You are not seeing the whole picture as it was, only the perverse painting of that picture by people who are as brazenly horrible as the terrorists we should be fighting but…… sadly …… are not.

    • JWI

      I hope that you have been living under a rock for the past 11 years. With all the info on 9/11 that has surfaced…..if you believe we went after the right ppl you are sorely mistaken. I do agree that 9/11 was a tragic event that was senceless, but to say that more innocent blood shed was warented well………..I get tired of hearing the shoot first ask question’s later rants, because after they have been shot the truth comes out that it was the wrong person shot.

    • outside observer

      I think if you do a little research you will see that the Bush`s and the rest of the puppeteers around the world are not here in the interest of the American people or any other nation`s people but rather for their own agenda. Most people don`t want to believe this kind of thing is going on which is something these egomaniacs count on as they fill you full of deceit.
      G Bush was really just another puppet but one who was among other things, totally arrogant and showed no regard for truths or the people he was suppose to be “leading” which makes us all feel betrayed.
      To these kinds of people the world resembles a living version of the board game “Risk” and all of us are simply game pieces.
      9/11 was a strategic move by these people to rally the troops to become angry and do their dirty work nothing more.
      We people of the world need to wake up and say to our so called leaders NO! we don`t want to play this game any more and learn to get along .
      Until that happens we will always be told lies to encourage hatred towards one another and the only ones that will suffer,, are us not them.

  • Bruce

    All the more reason for the convictions and for the ASSASSININNY Baracketeer to JOIN THEM in Yhe DOCK!

  • Steve

    Will they be trying the perpetrators of the East Timor massacre anytime soon? I agree with this, but it seems a bit political. Let’s not pick and choose.

  • http://www.clothswordtees.com Blaine Dunning

    This was done just to make people feel happy about themselves but nothing will come of this. I was opposed to going into Iraq, though it wasn’t worth the risk or cost. All of you talking about how many been that where killed in Iraq should also remember that Hussein killed many of people to keep his power. used chemical weapons on the kurds, killed thousands of people who opposed him. The world is a better place without Hussen in it, even with that I would never have invaded.

  • Cindy

    This is OLD News ! Why do they publish this with no dates…???!! NOVEMBER 2011~!

  • Blumuze

    Anyone seen much of Bush in the past four years? No? Now you know why. And I doubt he’ll be going on any “Save the Planet” trips with his Dad and Clinton any time soon, either. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

  • hillel

    like anyones gonna do shit to them. come on cheyney shot a man in the face an american was shot by cheney in the face people and that man had to apolegize to cheney and his family for the inconvienience of bothering him about it. these guys are untouchable its hilarious to think this matters at all to them

  • Ohn

    Nearer home even worse atrocities are committed and are being committed by Than Shwe/ Thein Sein military clique in Burma.

    Would Dr Mohammed be available to arrange such trial in Malaysian soil?

  • Orlando

    I never was agree with the war in Iraq, however after the attacks of 911 that was unneccesary I do not feel any remorse for those mother f***ers. If we have to torture those bastards to give us where are the locations of the enemy I will proud of my country, my flag and my Presidents. I’m not feel sorry for those are been torture because we need to keep United States save not matter at what price. I will say, if they want to come to the United States and trying to get one of them and for sure that they will have to fight have the country before they can toch them. Go for it fuc***s we will waiting for you. Go United States of America

    • Stevie

      You don’t feel any remorse for which motherfuckers?
      A lot of people were blamed for 9/11, but only a few of those were responsible.

    • Person

      Wow, you be winning at the writing. I is unimaginable why you are to think that it is OK for any country even US to being start wars what are against the laws of the international. Our feelings as an Americans is not be more important than everyone the rest, just because we be mad at Iraqi and Afghanis don’t meant we were OK to break the rules and starting a illegal wars. Period. We are been break the laws, and we are to being treid for them like same as anyone else. None exceptions for America, we is not special!!

    • Gammaz

      I’m not even sure if spell-check could fix your level of ignorance

    • LocalHero

      Sir. Please stop writing barely legible comments on serious subjects while you are living in your mom’s basement.

      Oh, and one other thing. Please, please do not bring any children into this world. For the benefit of all, I hope you’re sterile.

    • Steve

      Just to make clear to the world, Orlando is an imbecile who does not represent America, he is an uneducated redneck and America doesn’t want or need him.

      And just to make clear to all imbeciles, this has NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11.

      Bush & Co are war criminals being charged for torturing INNOCENT people, amongst other things, in Iraq. The Iraq war, torturing innocent people there, etc has nothing to do with Al Qaeda or 9/11. Rednecks like Orlando just like acting like all of the brown people in the world are the same.

      People like Orlando should not be allowed to vote and in a sane society, Orlando would be water-boarded, not innocent women from Iraq.

    • RavenRaving

      Orlando, Iraq was not involved in any way, shape or form in 911. It was Bush’s buddies, the Saudi’s, who produced the pilots and Osama bin Ladin. You are believing one of Bush’s great lies when you think the war in Iraq was justified as revenge for 911.

    • http://annihilist.tumblr.com Gabriel

      I hope you realise that the 9/11 attacks were a response to the horrendous war crimes committed by the US in the Gulf War for years prior. 9/11 was the Arab world saying “we’ve had enough – get the fuck out of our homes, our lives, our families”. You do realise that 3000 innocent people died in 9/11…yet hundreds of thousands of innocent people are dying because of the US’s military action in foreign countries over and over again. So 3000 innocent deaths is a negligible figure.

      Also the US has been invading small countries since the end of WWII in order to keep the price of foreign investment down so private enterprises can continue dominating the global corporate world. How many innocent people have died at the hands of the US, for money? Whereas 9/11 had a cause – albeit a violent one, but it was a greater cause than anything the US has done.

      • BiggyTom

        Wow. Everyone one is going off on Orlando for being ignorant, then you show up with your crap…nice! No matter how you try to justify your statement, 3,000 deaths are NOT negligible. That’s just ridiculous. Don’t be ignorant as well.

        • Juju

          2,740 people died in the initial attack, the body-count was later updated to 2,976. Even though that’s tragic, the total body-count (and that is simply bodies found) in Iraq alone is 116,548. That means that the amount of people that died during 9/11 was only .03% of the people that have been mercilessly killed in Iraq. These people were ALSO women, children, the elderly, places of work, et cetera. However, these places have been carpet-bombed, occupied, and overtaken for YEARS. It cannot measure up. Certainly, a life is a life; but you cannot actively say this person is being ignorant by pushing up numbers. It is not the same. This is years and years of oppression and torment that ONE small organization has caused that an entire country had to suffer for. In Afghanistan it’s said to have reported a body-count of 12,793 in the past six years and rising. Truly, this is a horrific thing and if you are standing by it, you are quite honestly anti-human.

        • Bob Bobby

          That’s not ignorant, it’s just being realistic…3,000/1,000,000 is .003. Less than a third of a percent. I’m not saying those 3,000 people deserved to die such a horrid death. Not by a long shot. But, they deserved to die as much as the hundreds of thousands of innocent Arabs killed by the United States. (Directly, through wars, as well of indirectly such as through the pathetic trade embargos and the “Food for Oil” program that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths. No, politicians just need a good reason to rally around the flag, fire up the patriotism/propaganda machine, and go start some more pointless wars. Lets see…
          Interviewer: “Al-Qaeda was not even in Iraq before the U.S. decided to go to war there…”
          George Bush: “So What?…”

      • http://www.doug-delong.com Doug De Long

        Your history and its retelling, including the analysis is spot on accurate however I must take issue with the official “company line” being bantered about in your response and many others re: 9/11. While no fingers can be pointed at this moment it is monumentally clear that there are some serious issues with the official story about 9/11, WTC7, the hijackers (who were CIA operatives?), the amazing melting buildings (3 in one day!), the fact that the ground was still burning nearly 9 months later in mid 2002 at the WTC complex, and of course the Bin Laden’s getting flown out of the country the night of 9/11 when every other plane was grounded.

        That of course was no surprise as the mastermind (yah right) of 9/11 was admitted to a US hospital and placed under MILITARY GUARD outside his room so he could undergo a medical procedure. That my friends was in July of 2001. When the truth really comes out (and it always does) we will be so ashamed of our country and our government.

        9/11 was a coup de’tat to fulfill the vision of
        Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the gang who all as part of a Washington think tank in the 1990s called “Project for a New American Century” outspokenly advocated and sought to influence public policy to go to war with Iraq, build permanent bases there, seize their oil fields and oh yah build a pipeline thru Afghanistan to the Caspian Sea. I’d say they pretty much got those agenda items completed wouldn’t you?

        Oh I forgot..the last agenda item: the erosion of individual liberties through the passage of laws like the Patriot Act.

    • daelm

      hey look! it’s a moron! coooooool.

    • Foxy News

      Let me guess; Fox News is your main source of news?

    • moon glow

      first learn to speak english and don’t pretend to be american, or if you really are american then no wonder you have those thoughts cause you don’t even know to speak your own language, you are a retard.

    • Juju

      Brainwashed and ridiculous, what an excellent combination. Next time you want to get an (exceedingly stupid and pointless) opinion across, at least know the basics of your own language. Since you cannot rectify in your little imbecile brain that hey, terrorizing people ALSO makes you a terrorist you should probably not be speaking (but hey, freedom of speech! Might as well exercise that no matter how mindless it makes you sound). Until then, FINALLY! It’s about time they were tried and convicted of their horrid crimes. Now to get those torture-camps shut down for good.

    • kking

      You have to realize that torture doesn’t actually work. It isn’t useful. Innocent people will saying anything to make the torture stop. Parents in various countries throughout history have confessed to murdering their own children under pain of torture, then executed, then found out the children were still alive or murdered by someone else.

      People confessed to being witches and demons under pain of torture, and even gave names of other people being witches or demons. Since witches and demons don’t actually exist, it is fairly safe to say that people will make up anything to make the torture stop.

      Anyone who thinks torture is useful, is an idiot. Anyone who thinks it is useful and acceptable, is an evil idiot.

    • Zoe

      Go Orlando, Go and learn to put few English sentences together first! unless you are using one of the online automatic translation, in that case you better first the language of YOUR COUNTRY before jumping to its defence!!

  • Orlando

    Go U.S.A.

    • who

      you’re an idiot

      • BiggyTom

        There’s nothing wrong with being patriotic…it’s just too bad that Orlando is an ignorant redneck-type person who doesn’t care about human life outside of the US. Sad, really.

        • Stevie

          Patriotism is alright, because a patriot loves his country while accepting it has flaws that need to be fixed.
          But then you have nationalists who blindly follow their country, unwilling to accept that it can ever be anything less than perfect.

    • Steve

      Orlando, sir, if you are in the USA, please leave. If it is because of uneducated people like you that our country has such problems. If you still think the Iraq war/torturing people there has something to do with 9/11 then you have been living under a rock. Please leave our country.

  • Dan

    Get a rope.

  • Uncle Draggi

    What a bunch of “sound and fury, signifying nothing”. Are Bush & Co. guilty of ‘war crimes’? -Of- =course= they are – even a blind man can see that!
    But presuming you people care anything about “fairness” or “justice”, you have to admit that the Taliban, and other similar groups, =and= =their= =sponsors= are also guilty of ‘war crimes’ and ‘crimes against humanity’. Do not try to claim they are exempt because they are killing for “religiously justified” reasons. If you have read History, you know quite well that some of the greatest crimes and slaughters have been for “religiously justified” -excuses-!
    Should Bush & Co. hang for their crimes? Sure, but =after= being publicly flogged! By the same standard, so should the leaders of the Taliban -and- -the- =Saudi= =princes= =who= =sponsor= -them- be publicly flogged and hanged!
    – = – = –
    Regarding the ‘9/11′ attacks, yes, they were terrible. But isn’t it interesting that as time goes by we learn more and more tiny details that make the entire event questionable, from the “official” version of what happened? For example, we find that many of the steel structural members show forensic evidence of =demolition= damage, =not= ‘heat’ damage. We also find there was an investigation into $9 TRILLION “missing” from the ‘Federal Reserve Bank’ and all of the records were in Building 9. You know, the building next to the Towers that “collapsed”, without being hit by aircraft nor being on fire. (Video recordings quite plainly show a ‘controlled demolition’ of the building…..)
    – = – = –
    As for the “America, love it or leave it” nonsense, Geez, Louise, you people are clueless!! Is =ANYthing= perfect in this world? Of course not! But you -do- =not= try to ignore or deny problems in order to make things better. And the very first step in correcting -any- problem .. is to admit that it exists. You don’t run away from it and you don’t stick your head in the sand and pretend it isn’t there.
    Hmmm, this presumes you actually want to fix any problems you have. Those who profit from those problems, and cowards (or is that redundant?), would naturally try to deny they exist. Oh, well, what you see in the mirror is your own choice. Hope you enjoy it…….

    • LocalHero

      Speaking of history, the Taliban was created and financed by the CIA so, really, not a good example to use. And, of course, you can’t just substitute al Qaeda since they are also completely created by the CIA.

      Come to think of it, hardly a bomb goes off anywhere in the world that can’t be tied to those assholes.

    • coryvclark

      umm their backers are the US inteligence aperatus, the talibian and Al CIAda where and still are funded, armed, directed by US and british inteligance! read the the National security archives, (they’re own record of criminal activity) read their policy papers. then you tell me who you think is responsible for terrorism in the world and ask yourself why, and by the way check out mainstream media’s coverage of false flag teorror attepts and attacks. the were just busted for a second underwear bombing.

  • Emontes

    Orlando, what would you say if you or any other USA citizen are tortured by Chileans, Uruguayans, Brazilians, Vietnamese or any other person who has suffered personal lost as a consequence of USA goverment supporting dictators and criminals all over the World. I would be okay to Argentineans to come to USA and torture common people to force them to tell where are the corps of the thousands of people who were killed by a dictarship who was supported by USA goverment. The attacks of 911 were wrong, but, unfortunately, something similar will happen again if USA continues its abuses around the world. Because of people like you is that USA officials has always been able to escape punishment

  • NDS

    While there are many thoughts and views about the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, any initiative that has been initiated and/or supported by Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahatir Mohamad to bring Bush and company to justice is hypocritical in the highest order!

    People should first review Mahatir’s record on human rights in Malaysia. Mahatir was a dictatorial in his leadership of Malaysia for over 2 decades and he nurtured corruption and cronyism throughout his reign. He manipulated the police and laws of the country to suppress political dissent. Separation of powers between the executive, legislative and judicial branches was obliterated by him. The party, which Mahatir led, which still continues to hold on to power by manipulating the country’s institutions continues his legacy. In fact, Mahatir himself continues to spout his venom and continues to oppose political and institutional reform in the country

    Mahatir and company’s involvement in this causes this entire track to lose any bit of legitimacy that it may have had.

    • JA

      While Mahathir may have his shortcomings he has the full support of those who wish to see the perpetrators of the Iraq war and consequent criminal activities brought into light and charged. With your neo-con and Zionist favored comments it is doubtful of course that you would agree. Against Bush’s war crimes, Mahathir’s so called crimes is miniscule in comparison. At least he has the guts to initiate the proceedings.

  • CS Cartier

    In the US, if the person is blamed for terrorism all Human Rights are thrown away even if the person is innocent. In a civilized world, one would wonder why there would be zero backlashes on such a fundamental change in the approach to justice.

    It is incredibly arrogant of a country to think that they are correct in all things and never responsible for their actions. For too long the US and its government have had far too much ego and not enough accountability. The people need to remove themselves for their leaders as the people are not responsible for Bush or his cabinet’s actions. If they think their leaders are infallible they need to remember Nixon and Watergate.

    A legally recognized court found a guilty verdict and that judgment must be respected. The United States expects the world to recognize there court and the opposite must be true. War criminals were found in US with regards to WWII, and the world was expected to honor that verdict. We are not savages and need to respect our own collective knowledge and social rules (in all countries and in all boarders or why the heck does the world just say home).

    Pictures were leaked with regards to the treatment of those at Gitmo. It is ultimately the commander and chief that are responsible for the actions of his troops. Isolated incidences are crimes, dozens of issues are policy.

  • Steve

    Why is it that just about every comment on this article has terrible grammar, punctuation or spelling?

    • Patty Pelfrey

      Reading only content consisting of 140 characters or less does not hone one’s English language skills.

  • Jamie

    One of the questions is will any other nations recognize Malaysia’s findings if any of these people enter those countries? Will the United States ever agree to this in case Bush, Cheney, et al never leave the United States again?

    I agree with this outcome, but I don’t have the power or ability to extradite any of these people.

    On 9/11/2001, the United States was attacked by a terrorist organization. On 9/12/2001, the United States government started on the road to also becoming a terrorist organization. People in the Bush Administration approved torture methods that the United States prosecuted people for after World War II.

  • Brian C

    On the 9/11 Terror attacks, in all fairness, BUSH should be tried as a terrorist IN the U.S.A.

    The two World Trade Center Towers were demolished using Thermite and it was all done ahead of time. They knew about the plans to fly commercial jets into the Towers, so in advance they were pre-rigged with explosives between 3:00am and 6:00am daily for at least 10 days prior to 9/11 to INSURE total devastation IF the terrorists plans actually came to fruitation. Tower 7 is the GLARING example since it was not hit by plane or on fire enough to warrant demolition, yet it fell at the speed of gravity and on cue at that. It takes a WHOLE LOT longer than four or five hours to rig a demolition such as that and they would never be able to rig it WHILE it was on fire. ALL of those buildings came down WITH Bush`s ASSISTANCE !! He AIDED the terrorists and actually did ten times more damage and loss of life than the terrorists would have done on their own. BUSH and his fellow conspirators should ALL be held accountable for the 9/11 attacks.

    • mark

      Are you serious with this garbage? Did aliens tell you this?

      • timothy price

        Architects and Engineers 911Truth.org has all the documentation from years of study and analysis that shows conclusively that the WTC 3 buildings were taken down by controlled demolition using nanothermite that had been previously planted in them.

        There has been a relentless effort by the government and the media to hide this fact, and to pin the blame on Islamic terrorists. This is a lie about a domestic act of murder. Those who did it are still at large.


        People are having a hard time getting their heads around this, but we have to.
        Once you fully realize how evil those who stole our government are, then they will resist them. That is what we need.

    • Sagian

      Thank you, Brian, for speaking the truth. People will wake up eventually, if we keep being brave enough to spread the word.
      To the guy who called it garbage: check out the evidence. Don’t passively believe what an incredibly corrupt gov’t tells you and a corporate-owned and controlled media reports. Do your own research. And look at the changes that have been made to your Constitution in the name of 9/11. And, why hasn’t this story about the Malaysian Tribunal shown up in the NY Times or Wash. Post?

  • Ben

    Before you worry about world politics that most of you really know nothing about, how about going back to primary school and learning how to spell.

    • Devon

      First rule of debate: The first person to correct grammar or make Nazi references loses.

      How about going back to primary school and learning to argue with substance?

  • David

    The practice of caning prisoners in Malaysia sounds pretty much just as bad as the treatment which some soldiers (illegally) gave to prisoners in their custody. The only difference is Malaysia has institutionalised it, this makes it far worse as far as I’m concerned.

  • mark

    Does anybody remember the ceasefire agreement after the first Gulf War? How about the 14 or so UN Security Council resolutions ignored by Iraq before the invasion in 2003?
    This Tribunal was a side show. Nobody got their fingernails torn out or electrocuted by bare wires and if they did it was completely unsanctioned. Was there waterboarding? Yes. Was what happened at Abu Ghraib abuse? It was. All reported, investigated, and bad enough without having to make things up in order to trump up war criminal charges.

    How do you use a person “as a human shield whilst being transported by helicopter?”

    • Devon

      And the UN resolution ignored by the US to not invade Iraq? How about that one?

      The numerous reports from weapons inspectors saying Iraq absolutely did not have a wmd program, which were completely ignored by the MSM (in favor of the garbage put out by ‘reporters’ like Judith Miller for the NYT)?

      I’m sure all those brand-spanking-new oil contracts for western companies previously kept out of Iraq by Saddam, I’m sure that’s all just a coincidence as well?

      No one needs to make anything up, and the conspiracy theorists who do are idiots. What I see most people here talking about here are the illegal actions the administration swept under the rug which were later exposed, and the many more still waiting to be exposed. You are absolutely right on one point, making up anything further is simply unnecessary and counterproductive.

      Humans are pretty savage. We’ve been a brutal species throughout history – we have many more Alexander’s and Ceasar’s than we do Ghandi’s… It’s the hypocracy that really gets me. Preaching one message to the world and practicing the exact opposite. Every government official they could fit on camera last year was denouncing Arab leaders for trying to put down the Arab Spring – but how happy were they to see Occupy Wallstreet turn up on their own front lawn?

      • Readabook

        hey bro, ghandi was pretty tight with the Nazis.

        • Fenris

          Ghandi was also a pedophile as documented in his personal papers. Not germaine to this article, but still…

  • Ali

    It is remarkable than no Iraqi has commented on this article. For the record, I shall never be able to forgive the Americans for what they have done to my country. Saddam was a brutal dictator, getting rid of him was a good thing, but why dismantle and destroy a whole country? We had a well run country, which was on the verge of leaving the league of developing countries to join the developed ones in the early eighties.
    The criminal behavior of the decision-makers during and after the war, is simply unforgivable. They opened the borders and allowed the AlQuaida to move in, the dismantled the powerful Iraqi army to rid the country of its teeth and above all the encouraged the mob and the criminals to loot and destroy what was left of the institutions.
    The most despicable act was to look the other way when the Iraq Museum was ransacked and the National library burnt. A meticulous way to rob the country of its memory and history.
    Take a look: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29162

    • Readabook

      i read this post to some kuwaity friends of mine and they sure are pissed for some reason.

      • spiralarray1969 .

        are you justifying the irresponsible military actions of the U.S?? Pretty warped, if you are. The person above did admit that Saddam was a brutal dictator. The point they were making was…..the U.S went in and ruined the whole country and allowed it to become a hot-bed for terrorists and extremists, where as it wasn’t before.

    • Readabook

      also what made the iraqi army powerful? was it WMDs?

  • Steven

    This trial is as politically motivated as President Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize. All this trial accomplished was its own discredit. Most of you speak of things you have never seen. You are still entitled to your opionions, but you are so blinded by your hatred of conservatives that you take the side of extremists. I’ve been to Guantonamo, Iraq and Afghanistan. I disagree with Ali. The US did not let in the extremisits, the B’ath loyalists, who took on the insurgency, welcomed them with open arms. They thought they could control them, but sectarianism, tribalism and warlordship, and many Iraqi’s pursuit of power, caused the choas. Now that we’ve left, the insurgency will die down, but Muslims will continue to kill Muslims.

  • Sagian

    Why has news of this tribunal not appeared in the NY Times or Washington Post??
    Never mind. I know why.

  • http://sorornishi.is soror Nishi

    Well, I think this is a good thing. I wish Tony Blair was tried as well.

    • Bill

      John Howard also!

  • BigBoyPants

    Well said Uncle Dragg.

  • Terry Washington

    What’s the(expletive) of this proto-Stalinist show trial- Bush is hardly going to show up for sentencing and the US(even under Obama) does NOT recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC over its citizens( be they military or Federal officials like Bush)???

  • the doctor

    lulz. islamic court. lulz. like they have any say on human rights violations and war crimes. tee hehehe. silly.

  • denk

    this is a bi partisan phenomenon

    *every us prez has been war criminals*

    cindy sheehan
    *obama, Three days in and already a war criminal*

    • http://www.margaretschaut.com Margaret

      Yes, Obama three days in and already a war criminal. Let’s hope it doesn’t take so long to put him and his cronies on trial. These people have to stop.

  • Mike

    Kuala LumpWHO?

    Ya’ll would do best to continue waving your tourism banner and keep your collective (and ignorant) nose out out of places where you have no idea what you’re talking about…

    Mr. Am Erican

    • http://abdksfkaj lol calm yo shit bro

      calm down, bush is an idiot. case closed.

      • You may fire when ready, Gridley.

        I hope the lumpen KualaLumpurians have deep bomb shelters. Any more of this nonsense, and they’re going to need ‘em.

        • Really?

          It’s in Malaysia. It would have taken you seconds to Google it.

        • 1stLt T

          I am a proud and patrotic junior officer of the US military (USMC) and what you just said is so mindnumbingly offensive as to defy explanation. Whether or not Bush is guilty of these charges is the question at hand.

          YOU are a MAJOR reason why people keep shooting at us.

          I suppose it’s a good thing you don’t have to face down the outrage simpletons like you induce. ‘Cause that would be my job. Sir.

          • Jarda

            And proud and patriotic officers are the third reason why people keep on shooting at you. The second reasons are your politicians, corrupted to the bone marrow. People like Mikey help them to grab power. All it takes is a nice suit with a cowboy hat, a big show and a nice patriotic talk, which they forget as soon as they are in office. Then those politicians send proud and patriotic officers and proud and patriotic soldiers to other people’s countries in the interest of humanity (=petrol, ore…) and democracy (=more petrol, ore…). There you kill whatever moves in sight, maim thousands who happened to be around, create mess comparable to Berlin at the end of WW II with the Red Army looting what didn’t burn down and then you wonder how comes that no one loves you.

    • N/A

      The fact that you do not know where Kuala Lumpur is proves you are an idiot and so does your misspelling of “y’all” – they are ALL war criminals and should be tried as such. If you commit murder, you should pay for your crime, regardless of your title or how much money you have.

      • Paul

        Look who’s calling the kettle black, check your own grammar before you start calling other people idiot’s.

        • Screamin’ Demon

          “Look who’s calling the kettle black, check your own grammar before you start calling other people idiot’s.”

          Hey idiot: Apostrophes do not denote plurals.

    • Mr. Hum Anbeing

      Can you repeat that in English please? I don’t read Dumbfuck,

    • Terry

      you mean like having military bases all over the world to protect US interests?

  • chk

    Mr Am Erican,
    Do you believe that evidence that has been in the public arena for years now (and not just in the United States) leaves people in Kuala Lumpur “ignorant”? Are they ignorannt by virtue of not being “American”? Or are you just one of those boring people who go on and on about American exceptionalism? So sorry, didn’t mean to ask the same question twice. I must be VERY ignorant.

    Would you have liked Pinochet to live next door to you, because the rest of the world, by virtue of being “the rest” is definitively ignorant and should therefore ignore crimes against humanity? Maybe you and Augusto would have gotten on well. Maybe he’s fun to have a beer with, no matter how many people he killed.

    • IntelMerica

      (golf clap) well played sir

  • Kenia Armstrong

    Let the trials begin for the Criminals known around the world for massive destruction, loss of lifes, and totally illegal! Help convict these criminals, thus removing President Obama, from guilt by association!!

    • Rj b

      You really can’t try one side and not the other. Both sides responded like barbarians. Cliche: ‘it takes two to tango.’,’there’s two sides to every coin’, etc., etc.

      • rleeh

        both sides ARE one side.

  • Kael

    “Convict ALL the presidents!!!!!!11!!!1″

  • DJ Blass

    Well bless the Malaysians for having the courage to be the first to take this long overdue step. I have been calling out to the virtual community on multiple web sites as well as my friends in private for this to happen while the Bush administration was still in power.

    People told me I was crazy, it was unprecedented and it could never happen. Finally a law professor in France came out and said the same thing in the international press and I felt vindicated for about ten minutes. Nothing could improve the stature of the United States as a democracy and a just nation around the globe, but especially in the Middle East and South Asia. These war criminals do not represent the views of myself and millions of other Americans. I have been to Kuala Lumpur and toured the country. My hat goes off to you.

  • http://electrotowel.com/ Roman

    long overdue.

  • Rich Orwell

    Bush is incompetent to stand trail.
    He still thinks “farm” is spelled “e-i-e-i-o.”

    • Marcius Ham

      Stand trail?

      • Rich Orwell

        I *said* he couldn’t spell :) And he can’t stand trail mix, either.

  • richard marsh

    Those found guilty need to be punished asap.

  • Sarah Detzel

    Ok, seriously, where are you citing this from???

  • Citizen Sane
  • Bill Hicks

    I’ll give you guys a hint. AE911 truth is the second layer of the 911 cover up. Keep researching, the answer is available and if you research your little butts off you’ll find it. And by the way, it ain’t pretty.

  • killuminati

    9/11 9/11 9/11

  • denk

    Rj b
    *You really can’t try one side and not the other. Both sides responded like barbarians. Cliche: ‘it takes two to tango.’,’there’s two sides to every coin’, etc., etc.*

    this world is so *unfair* innit
    only gringos get indicted

    well in case u havent noticed
    *terrarists*, including amerikans, aint need no god damned trial
    they get summarily executed

  • HurrDurr

    Aww Malaysia is so cute

  • Kay Green

    make sure this trial and verdict gets into future American History Books

  • Navy Chief

    Long overdue! It is unfortunate that our Commander in Chief didn’t have the courage to go after Bush and company. Especially after his speech that no one is above the law, and those who broke the law would be held accountable.

  • Sue Nommey

    Good. At least someone has sense. G.W. was the first president to make me feel ashamed to be an American. We are no better than al-Qaida if we think torture is a viable option. A “confession” obtained by torture is not a confession.

  • Liz Carter

    I knew it. I had heard it mentioned on the mainstream media. I think it was MSNBC or CNN. It was just a fly-by- nighter, catch it if you can announcement, and then I’m sure the cable news editors and managers told them NOT to say it again!! You know somebodys head probably rolled for it even being announced in the first place!! You know they’ve got to keep old former President Bush, the white man, looking as good as possible!! Even though the truth has come out of what happened!! However, they are allowed to do whatever they want to do to “lynch” the black man, the actual sitting President of the United States!! He should have gone right in and pressed charges against those clowns in the first place!! I bet we wouldn’t be hearing half the BS we’ve been hearing against Obama right now!! The rest of the haters would be keeping their mouths shut, hoping not to get implicated themselves!! Oh, they’d all be working so nicely with the President and everything he’s doing or trying to do would have been just fine. Oh, everything would’ve been what the nation needed!! He wouldn’t have been able to do ANYTHING wrong!! They are a bunch of racist cowards. The media are instigators and should be censured. If they didn’t keep this much controversy and vitriol going on when those three stooges Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld was sending us down this rabbit-hole, they should shut their mouths up on ANYTHING this President does to try to bring us up out of the hole!!

    • dave

      Obama is the same group of puppets,d ont make it a race issue, they are all shite, its America at fault, lets not make it a party issue

  • Vic

    They just should have used Neutron weapons on Afghanistan and Iraq and went on and cleaned it up and repopulate the region.

  • Robert

    Bush’s list of crimes is very long, but I don’t what’s worse: all that he did or supporting it to this day.

  • J. Sen

    This article is just terribly written. It represents itself as a journalistic report and as such it should hold itself up to some standard.

    To write in one of your opening paragraphs “tried in absentia in Malaysia” and not make clear that this wasn’t in any court of law is terrible reporting.

    The KLWCC is not recognized by any Malaysian court. This was a symbolic trial with no real legal implications for any of the accused.

    Ridley only uses the word “symbolic” in her 13th paragraph and prefaces it with the words “regarded by some”. That’s just shoddy journalism.

    As a Malaysian and a KLite who works in media, I just cannot believe how badly this article was written.

    I in no way shape or form side with the accused but come on, are the victories so small that “British journalist Yvonne Ridley (who) is the European President of the International Muslim Women’s Union as well as being a patron of Cageprisoners” has to do such a terrible job in representing the facts?

    You do not bury or distort the lead. You most certainly do not imply that an entire country has tried and convicted, in absentia, a former President of the United States. You need to note when a trial is a symbolic one and when it did not take place in any court of law.

    • http://jameslux.com James Luxley

      Justice is justice without an official justice system. You don’t need an official justice system and court to find anyone guilty.

      • JPS

        Uhhh, yes. Yes you do.

        • Scott Feeney

          Erh, you DONT if you are Bush and crew..ask Gitmo, and also check the laughably anti civil rights laws on US books thanks to these clowns..

          Mahathir is an ex tin POT dictator..

          ( and a recalcitrant little fellow, with NO regard for justice nor democracy..and as I remember hearing it was also one of the “grand theft ” school of governmental management… Hmm..Sounds ALOT like the democarcy destroying thieving Bush cronies huh..?)

          However, whatever his motives,yes, that is one VERY ” Black Kettle”Mr PoT”, on that I can agree..

          America, convict these thugs, for real. They are guilty of a grand treason against you,grand thefts and also destroying freedom and democracy ( such as it was..! ) and crimes of various types, the origins of which lie in a grand arrogance of power which stupefies belief..

          That the US is able to turn a blind eye to them is far beyond belief.

          The blame for THAT lies with a jaundiced and complicent media, if ANY of you media types HAVE a bone left, please try using some courage and a little common decency..?

          AMERICA….Convict or history WILL judge you,and also recovering human rights will also elude you, I suspect.

          AS for the CIA, isnt it high time that someone put that very stupid ( Ultra Right WIng and Antidemocratic ) dog on a decent leash where it belongs..?

          At the very least, it might be trained not to pee on German or British roses..?

          Personally I think it need putting down.. a lobotomy maybe..?

          How many times will the people of the US stand by and let it maul the democratic rights of the rest of the world…?

          • Kevin Dwayne Hoke

            Now we see what a Left Nut Wing job is. No I didn’t mess that up.

          • del

            The United States only demands answers for reprieve and in American English, however long this takes doesn’t matter so long as it saves the Bill of Rights and Constitution of the USA.

            As for me, I won’t tolerate any dallying home or abroad.

          • Boxmug

            lol. you are out of your damned mind. carry on with that

          • Robert W Rogers

            Democratic rights of the world. When it comes to shooting there are no democratic rights involved, If you had used different words you might have at least made a point. I have a lot of problems with the way our government acts, but don’t whine if you don’t get your way just because you have an oinion.

          • Daniel Gray

            Ummm, YES YOU DO. Bush never claimed he was a chairman of any court or tribunal as these fakers have. Sorry but you have yet to make a point.

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            But Bush claimed to have legal authority to invade Iraq. Which makes him a faker. It was a war of aggression, “the supreme international crime” as defined at Nuremberg.

          • kim bunchalastnames

            you confuse them with logic, sir.

      • Boxmug

        good. I find you guilty then.

    • Chris Glowacki

      Hmmm… Media misrepresenting the facts? What an odd occurence, hope it doesn’t happen too often

    • Scott Feeney

      hmm and I cant believe that petty bickering over a journalists poor writing is all you find worth thinking about… “as a Malaysian” means what exactly, is beyond me, as far as relevence goes… IS that you “work in Media ” any point whatever..?

      Personally, I find your total lack of interest in the topic at hand, deeply depressing….” as a citizen of the world “

      • FunnyFilmFan

        Well for one thing I think he is very interested in the topic. The fact he read it all the way through and thoroughly enough to write such an immense response shows interests. To me and my experience at least.

        But also I must say, because words shape our world and how we create our outlook on life as individuals, then HOW something is written is very important. I agree with a lot of what J. Sen said about this article and although its content is intriguing and will cause me to keep an eye out for more articles in the future to talk about such topics and actions, I feel the writer, through deliberate action or through inexperience, poorly structured and poorly wrote this article.
        And “citizen of the world” … had to use that huh?

      • Boxmug

        it’s not just about “poor writing” i.e., grammar. It’s about bogus content.

        • Robert W Rogers

          I agree with you Boxmug.

      • Robert W Rogers

        I am not a citizen of the world and the article was meant to mislead – the intent was to lie.

      • Daniel Gray

        And I think that you just accepting it as fact shows your complete and utter ignorance on the subject as well as the people mentioned in it AND the writer of the garbage piece.

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          Says the guy who tried to refute the article by falsely declaring that Francis A. Boyle has no degree in law.

          • Daniel Gray

            Again, it does not say what you claim and you completely ignore the rest of what I proved, thus destroying the story-the author-its claims, and damaging the reputation of a blog that would be so ignorant as to not check the facts FIRST before allowing such garbage to be posted.

      • Daniel Gray

        Still before you can claim any conviction the court MUST have legal authority to do so, and it does not. SO it makes no difference about any “citizen of the world” the facts are facts…this does not amount to a fart in a high wind as this tribunal has NO legal authority to do what it claimed.

        • kim bunchalastnames

          … AAAAND the backpedaling begins. no acknowledgement of the mistake you made, which has undermined your entire argument. instead, you just try to wave something else that’s all sparkly in our faces in your attempt to distract us from drawing our own conclusions. here’s mine: you sound like an ass.

    • FunnyFilmFan

      I totally agree. How you write the words is just as powerful as the words themselves and it is a writers responsibility to use this power with competence and dignity.

    • Juan Reynoso

      Forget about the written or grammar. What is the issue?. Bush was convicted of crimes against humanity; is this true?. I say it is, Bush is a criminal, also Obama, they work and are part of the neo-con globalist agenda. Please seek the truth and have the courage to expose the criminals.

  • Judson Witham

    The actions of the United States to investigate and hunt down the Bastards that attacked NYC and Washington, DC and that were responsible for the many deaths on that horrid day was Fully and Absolutely supported by me. Then I saw the Invasion of Iraq and then the invasion of Afghanistan. Iraq and Afghanistan DID NOT as Nations have anything to do with 9/11. Bush’s preemptive war doctrine is called Naked Aggression and the tens of thousands of dead and 100s of thousands casualties that will live with their pain and scars for life. In the Cowboy Guns Ship reactionary zeal that Dubbya exhibited as they say in Texas He Crapped in his Hat. My Father was a US Navy Fighter Pilot in WW II and my Family has it’s fair share of Naval, Marine, Air Force and Combat Veterans. I am a Minister and I know this, The Court that tried this case reached the correct decision. How do I know, had any Country attacked the USA because outlaws or terrorists NOT under direct orders from our leaders that had done similar acts of Terror would have had no right to bomb any of our Cities and certainly not invaded the USA. I love my Country BUT I am not willing to lie for anyone that would refer to Shock and Awe in the bombing of any Nation that had NO WMD and was NOT responsible for 9/11. Murder is Murder and Unjust War is Unjust War. As a Man I need NO FORMAL training to be a Juror at a Murder Trial and as a Man I do NOT need anyone telling me I must Ignore the facts. The facts are very simple, Iraq’s people DID NOT ATTACK US either did Afghanistan’s People. Bush and Cheney are Guilty as this Court Has Found. In the Bible David with a sling and a stone vanquished a Giant Monster and David was Justified. The Court in this case as far as the facts reveal was Justified. Powell Knows as does Stormin Norman … There were NO WMD’s ask Wesley Clark see what He Says. God Saw the entire thing fellas and so did the rest of this World. The USA needs to remember God Does Not Bless Murders of innocent people NO MATTER WHAT Blindness they suffer from. I suggest a full and complete re-investigation by INDEPENDENT Examiners of the 9/11 Terror. If God is ever again to Bless The USA … The TRUTH will be the reason why. Two Wrongs have never made a single right and what Bush and Cheney and Company did was NOT the Right Thing.

    • Jarda

      I’d like to point out that no one has ever presented any better proof about the WTC and Pentagon attacks other than what would be good enough for a bad spy sitcom. So as for the “bastards” who did it we are left in a fog. We are to believe what Fox News says but it might be all a different story which we might learn many years from now after some documents will be declassified or probably rather never. Knowing a bit about the long history of US lies and propaganda I’m inclined to take any official statement with very long tweezers and rubber gloves.

    • Andrew Ross

      Have you ever watched loose change? The documentary covering 9/11 has enough evidence to make it clear to any educated individual that the story reported by the media was fabricated. 9/11 was most likely an inside job. Applying basic sciences such as chemistry and physics to the scenario eliminates almost entirely what they were reporting to be true. 9/11 was an inside job.

      • dsmidiman

        Loose Change is a great documentary, it has been revised a couple of times and the factual information in both of them is too hard to ignore. I think they should be shown on world wide TV and every person on this planet required to watch… As a US citizen I am both appalled and saddened that our government has become so deceptive and evil. And that many of our citizens are so very ignorant that they keep voting some of these crooks into office…

    • DrNN

      Similarly I had a huge US flag in my office window from the day after 9/11 until the day of the Iraq invasion.

      Something went terribly wrong perhaps similar to the German response to the Reichstag fire.

      • Churchlady320

        Bush announced at his very first cabinet meeting January 2001 that we were going to war against Iraq. 9/11 became his excuse. The sacrifice of Americans to his imperial and religious zealotry needs to be called to account in an international court, and now it can be.

    • BettyBenson

      Bravo – very well said!

  • Ehtesham Ali

    US bad relations with many countries & nations doesn’t mean that its people don’t want good relations with other countries but its the government policies which have caused a dis-rest in the world.

    • Boxmug

      and what government (that is globally engaged not isolated and self concerned) has “good” relations with the rest of the world?

      • Velocet 8

        Australia, Spain, Norway, Italy, Canada…I could go on, but why bother, its already obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about.

        And Ehtesham is completely correct. US citizens want good international relations and certain governmental policies and actions have worked against that in the last 20 years.

  • robert

    This comes from a country with an extremist islamic government that puts gay people to death. There is no shame in being condemned by such as these.

    • Brian

      No shame, unless, of course, you are Mr. Bush or Mr. Cheney. They both take on the very worst of shame. The Americans who voted for them are far more shameful than is this Islamic country. By the way, you silly, illiterate fool, Maylasia is NOT considered to be an “extremist” government, on the pendulum of Islamic countries / governments, it is considered to be moderate.

      • FreedomSpeaks

        Who has recently employed dozens of muslims? The State Dept CT just promoted Sheikh Abdallah Bin Bayyah (MB) who endoresed a fatwa authorizing the suicide attacks against 1000’s of US Soldiers in Iraq. So why does O keep promoting these jihad supporters
        and preachers? The only ones who benefited from having evidence destroyed in building 7 were the Clintons. They had billion of dollars of stolen tax payer money to hide.

  • nyran125tk

    Who cares how bad its written this article. But I agree. Rumsfeld, Chaney, G.Bush and all his cronies including James Steele and all his disgusting mates all should be put on trial. I think the main reason, is there was no weapons of mass destruction. that alone they should be put on trial. A full investigation should be on 9/11 and ALl tapes from the pentagon revealed and Bin Ladens pictures of his murder revealed also. I don’t see the difference to what Hitler did in Poland and what George Bush and his mates have done in Iraq. Bin Laden had nothing to do with Iraq, it was obvious they used the terrorist propaganda to make Americans want blood, so they could attack Iraq. They should of taken out Saddam and that’s that and left. I cannot believe the international tribunal or the UN has not put these people under investigation. But its not all, Wall Street needs to be looked at, Inflation needs to be rethought all those Bail outs with Golden Sachs. Its completely corrupt. Oil Companys buying up land that has fresh water that’s a human right. ITS GROSE!!!

    • Daniel Gray

      Then get a REAL court to do it.

      • Apfel Lyrik

        they did

        • Velocet 8

          Get one with a reputation in the international community and some power to do something about it.

  • spiralarray1969 .

    I agree with many who have commented. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the others mentioned, are war criminals.

    I am Canadian . I notice sometimes, certain types of Americans talk big and brag and boast about how “powerful” the U.S.A. is. Interesting, though, that the U.S.A military might …is selective about which countries it invades. Iraq….well, I think most of us know that Saddam didn’t have a very strong military by the time 2003 came. Afganistan….no official military. Weren’t North Korea and Iran part of Bush’s “axis of evil”? Weren’t most of the supposed 9/11 hijackers from Saudi Arabia? Did the U.S invade any of those countries? The U.S isn’t as powerful as people claim. Nothing personal against actual American people (except the ignorant, idiotic right wing neo con types)….Most Americans are nice, normal people.

    Just putting this whole notion of the U.S being so powerful and tough. It’s not really accurate. The U.S picks it’s “battles”. It picks the easy ones. (not that either the war in Afganistan or Iraq were success stories). Mission accomplished. Yeah right.

    • Churchlady320

      No nation has ever convicted its own – would cause huge unrest if not civil war, be dismissed as retaliation. This is EXACTLY what should be done. When Guatemala tried Rios Montt last year, the courts overturned the findings. The ICC now will have a chance to move forward with this in serious ways. If it had happened in the U.S., it would have been disastrous for decades of progress. Outside forces need to be present as the judges. This works.

    • BettyBenson

      You are absolutely right. We pick on weak countries that are no challenge militarily and who have assets that we want – oil, minerals, opium! We choose wars at certain times as well – in economic slumps when the military-industrialist complex needs a boost in earnings! Wars are only fought for economic reasons – and we should all keep that in mind when we support politicians who are war mongering criminals.

    • batardo15

      spoken like a moron who doesn’t realize that the strength of our Military is what allows you to have a weaker Military… grab another brew ay

      • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

        Spoken like a moron who thinks that Canada requires the US military for protection from … from … well, from something.

        • batardo15

          hey just worry about the runaway population in Vancouver and that embarrassment you call a Mayor in Toronto… we’ll be just fine down here without your 2 cents.. ay

          • McCainISAdolf

            your country is f d, broke, and taken over as global reserve currency

            your donzo you broke f r

    • suzannelehman

      I fully agree and I am an American. There are many Americans that are against the policies and politics of their own country. But, we are being bought out by corporations. Don’t get me started!! But you are right on about America. And these days, it blatantly cares less and less for it’s own citizens. Vets, the poor, poor health care, a education system in shambles,etc.

  • Jed

    Never mind the journalism..look at the evidence, and any sane individual would definitely conclude that these people are culpable of war crimes, of not only torture of prisoners, but also of their controlled demolition of the WTC killing 3000 of their own people, to justify going to war and killing hundreds of thousands more in Iraq and Afghanistan…that is the real issue!

    • Hugh Jass

      Time to adjust your tinfoil hat.

    • FreedomSpeaks

      Ask yourself, who had the opportunity? 9/11 took years to plan. Who benefited? The only ones who benefited from having evidence destroyed in building 7 were the Clintons. They had billion of dollars of stolen tax payer money to hide.

      • kim bunchalastnames

        omfg. i can’t even.

    • Boxmug

      another nut job speaks

      • Angela Walker

        *yawn* The never ending whining of the right wing nut job who is happy that the Bush gang of thugs lied the US into two completely unnecessary wars, killing hundreds of thousands, for the sole purpose of increasing corporate profits and power. What a maroon. :D

        • Daniel Gray

          *yawn* yet another whining and moaning left wing moron who cannot seem to understand that it was the DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS that voted to allow what Bush supposedly did according to them. Therefor it is your DEMOCRAT members of Congress that you should be going after as Bush (Unlike Obama) knew he could not do anything without their approval.

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            *yawn*, yet more whining and moaning from one left wing and one right wing moron, both of whom cannot seem to understand that it was BOTH PARTIES in government that were complicit in the illegal invasion of Iraq, a war of aggression, defined at Nuremberg as “the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crime in that it contained within itself the evil of the whole.”

          • Daniel Gray

            Makes NO difference child. The court in the story was NEVER a real court and that means their opinion or decision is worth a fart in a high wind or an ice cube in the desert. It CANNOT be enforced nor will it be entered into any record except with these fakers.

    • Russ

      What an idiot. No sane person believes US brought down the towers

      • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

        No sane person believes that the laws of physics were suspended on 9/11.

        The free fall collapse of WTC 7 means all the building’s potential energy was converted to kinetic energy, which means there was no energy available to do the work of buckling columns as required by NIST’s fire-induced collapse hypothesis.

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  • atunionbob

    They need to try them in the world court in the Hague.

  • Patricia E.

    Ridiculous article about a ridiculous trial.

  • Lloyd Kennedy

    Badly written or not , and irrespective of this tribunals jurisdiction , these people have reached the conclusion that nine tenths of humanity already knew . This grubby little collection of individuals are belligerent war criminals .

    • batardo15

      you sound very very gay… are you mad bro

  • Marty Susman

    I think these nations should get Bush & his whole crowd into court & throw them into prison…

  • FunnyFilmFan

    How do you know who I elected for? You’re generalizing again. This is the problem.
    Not every german has a Nazi ancestor, not every Irishman is a drunk, not every Canadian likes syrup … I think …. and not everyone in America gets who they voted for.
    Its people like you who say things like that that’s causing more American’s to not even want to vote.
    So tell me tom, if Al Gore were voted in … then would we have deserved 3000 plus die. How bout Obama, if he were elected in at the time would it be ok then.
    The point I was most pissed about was how she said “we deserved it”. That’s bullshit. No one deserves it.
    And the next time you want to reply please give me something slightly above what a 6th grader might say. Haha dumbass, really? Sound almost as goofy as those people who say “i’m a citizen of the world” … almost

    • BettyBenson

      Again, I repeat, did Iraq deserve to have 1.5 million citizens killed by us? They were already living under a totalitarian regime and they definitely did not have the vote to pick their leaders. They were a nation of people trying to care for their families and survive in harsh conditions – and then we come along and make their lives a living, horrible hell. Yes, we do deserve any condemnation leveled at us. 1.5 million murdered Iraqi’s who had nothing to do with 9/11 is a really heavy price to pay for 3,000 Americans. Get real! Everyone knows now that we invaded Iraq to control their oil fields and we failed at that, but the “Gang” are certainly making money through our military/industrial complex off the disaster we caused to the infrastructure in Iraq. Iraq was also a conduit for billions of U.S. tax payer dollars to disappear. Remember those reports? Have i refreshed your memory about why people say “we deserved it”?

      • suzannelehman

        I do not agree anyone deserved anything like a 9/11. And I do agree that America was wrong to go into Iraq in the guise of Saddam being involved with 9/11, there was no connection. Why did we not invade Saudi Arabia, where the 9/11 terrorists were from?? We also, lost 5,000 military. And depleted our financial resources, while things fall apart in America. I could go on.

  • Dennis Smith

    This Malaysian Tribunal is seeded by the same group of self righteous citizens
    that have been part and party in supporting the cover up of flight MH370
    where 239 mostly innocent passengers and crew members were murdered.
    The guilty have withheld information purposely to hinder the discovery
    of the final resting place of that plane and the flight data recorders
    that would likely shed light on (IMO) a horrendous radical Islamic
    crime. I agree with the panel’s decision to find Bush, Cheney and the
    buffoon Rumsfeld guilty of war crimes. They did act without due regard
    for the innocent life, however they did it, not with cold blooded murders,
    but as a response to another radical Islamic crime that killed almost
    3000 innocent US men women and children. It does not take a genius to
    see the common thread here. If this Malaysian panel wants to do some
    real justice on the world stage, tell them to start in their own back
    yard and clean up their own corrupt religious culture for which they are
    apparently totally blind and forgiving.

  • ibutcherii

    A demonizing characterization of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush is well suited.

    I read an article interviewing Cheney on his health status and complications from surgeries he has had, Cheney stated that, “Dying Isn’t so bad.”

    I immediately envisioned on all of the countless numbers of people: children, men and women, elders, soldiers, who died horrific deaths because of decisions He made.

    “Dying isn’t so bad,” as he lies sedated in the comfort of is home with the best of medical care, “Dick Cheney is SOULLESS”.

    George Bush’s painting that were posted, as an artist, I see the water, the shower symbolizing the cleansing, the washing away the quilt of his indiscretions, but his Conscientious / Soul won’t let him.

    His Conscientious / Soul won’t let him forget the quilt of His Indiscretions.

  • Dan Mclendon

    My only question is when will their asses be arrested & thrown in jail where they belong.

  • gurukalehuru

    This will have no real effect, but I’m glad to see it anyway

  • Guest

    So me and some mates just convicted my pen of being a fork, now it is so. This so called War Crimes Court is not an actual court of law – whether you think that these charges should be laid or not you should at least understand that this article is a complete misrepresentation of what has actually occurred (which is actually nothing).

  • frank

    long list of Bush hatters here. makes no difference what the truth is as long as you can bad mouth the bush administration. Seems the Clintons and Obama can do what ever they wanted and you sit there with your mouths shut and your hands between your legs and when you wait till you can once again stand and shout out the Bushes did it. Sad when truth is limited to those who seek it out, not the general audience. Live on in your day dreams, hows the hope and change working for you?

  • Rene’ Abril

    A sad state of Republican affairs.

  • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

    The truth is that both Bush and Obama are criminals.

  • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

    Halliburton got the contract because it is large enough to handle the job

    This is a non sequitur since there are other companies that could have handled the job, e.g., Schlumberger. Obviously, there were other factors. Why no bid? Cheney’s relationship with the company probably didn’t hurt.

  • suzannelehman

    I’m an American and I see the hypocrisy you talk about. It drives me mad. And it is true, No one calls us for help, we always think we have to get involved in everything. Our policies have been to act as the world leader…… in other words, react to any and every military situation because war is a money maker. Cheney’s Halliburton made 39 billion off Iraq. It sickens me!!!

  • Helen Wheels

    Anyone have an update on the United Nations portion of all of this? Thanks.

  • pauleichhorn

    Why aren’t they in jail?

  • Boxmug

    pathetic. lol good luck with that you third world swine.

  • Daniel Gray

    Big fricken deal. This only applies to malaysa, nowhere else. SO you lefties who think this is official, then you had better get ready for a hard slap of reality as Clinton AND Obama have been charged and convicted of being war criminals in Eastern Europe and in the Middle East.

    Now isnt it so strange that all three have “been charged and convicted” and yet all three have visited the same countries that convicted them and not once were they detained or arrested. Meaning that it does not amount to a fart in a high wind!

    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      This isn’t a left/right issue. The observation that both Bush and Obama are guilty of war crimes should hardly be controversial.

      • Daniel Gray

        I am not saying it is or isnt. What I am saying is that it makes no difference as none of the countries that made these convictions have the right to detain a head of state nor do they have the right to arrest same. Again this does not amount to a fart in a high wind as there is nothing that can be done to any of the three.

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          Thanks for clarifying.

  • Daniel Gray

    Here’s even more damning evidence that this story is fake. One Francis A. Boyle mentioned in the story is a professor of Biology…he has NO legal degree and as such CANNOT be part of ANY prosecution team as a prosecution team is made up of PROSECUTORS! You know, the people that actually DID pass law school. Here is proof http://www.law.illinois.edu/faculty/profile/francisboyle

    The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission (KLWCT), also known as the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, is a Malaysian organisation established in 2007 by Mathathir Mohamad to investigate war crimes.The KLWCC was instigated as an alternative to the International Criminal Court in The Hauge, which Mahathir accused of bias in its selection of cases to cover. You just CANNOT start your own court because you dont like what other courts have done. The former United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers, Param Cumaraswamy, has suggested the tribunal is a private enterprise with no legal basis and questions its legitimacy. The tribunal does not have a UN mandate or recognition, no power to order arrests or impose sentences, and its verdicts have nothing but symbolic significance. A statement on the tribunal’s website states: “In the event the tribunal convicts any of the accused, the only sanction is that the name of the guilty person will be entered in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals and publicized worldwide.” Meaning absolutely nothing.

    Mahathir Mohamad is a doctor, he is not even a judge so there is no way he could be sitting in judgement over anyone, especially with his past record of curbing and eliminating civil liberties in his own country. Sort of like the pot calling the kettle black.

    And now we come to Yvonne Ridley. A woman who is a self admitted racist with a hatred of Jews based on the fact that her 4th husband (Jewish) divorced her for playing around while married and she has never forgiven him for that. She has worked for a plethora of Islamic TV and print media and has been fired from each and every one. She is a failed politician who could not even get more then 1.1% of the vote when she ran for national office in England. After the Chechen leader Shamil Basayev who was directly responsible for the terrorist attack on the Beslan School was killed, Ridley wrote an article referring to Basayev by the Muslim honorific shaheed, meaning “martyr”. She went on to refer to Basayev as leader of “an admirable struggle to bring independence to Chechnya” So she is calling a murdering creep who killed innocent children some kind of saint???

    If I was running this magazine or website, I would apologize to the readers for allowing this biased hunk of garbage to even see the inside of my webpage or be printed in my newsprint! Seems the site owes its readers a MAJOR apology for printing this garbage.

    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      Here’s even more damning evidence that Daniel Gray is a fake:

      Here’s even more damning evidence that this story is fake. One Francis
      A. Boyle mentioned in the story is a professor of Biology…he has NO
      legal degree

      Francis A. Boyle is a renowned professor of INTERNATIONAL LAW at the University of Illinois College of LAW. Gray’s own link shows Boyle graduated “Harvard Law School, J.D. Magna Cum Laude (1976)”, and that one of his degrees from Harvard (he has numerous) is a Doctor of Law degree (J.D.) — but Gray couldn’t be bothered to read that far (all the way to the 2nd paragraph), because he doesn’t really care about the facts.

      Anyone can also read further and see his considerable experience in law, including as a legal adviser and prosecutor

  • Daniel Gray

    Seems Hammond does not agree (the mod below) I have already showed what a hunk of garbage this story and the reporter and the tribunal are, as well as shown that the American mentioned does not have a law degree (he claims one on his site, but isnt it just so special the university/law school that he claims to have a degree from has no record of him ever attending or even graduating from same.)

    yet we are suppose to believe this BS?

    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      I merely observed that you are a liar, repeatedly claiming that Boyle has no law degree despite being repeatedly shown from your own source that he has a Doctor of Law degree from Harvard.

      • Daniel Gray

        Nope, sorry chuckles. Everything I have stated is fact. And when you start resorting to calling names then you have lost the debate.

        I also notice that you refuse to check the links I posted proving what I said AND not surprisingly; the links I posted that complete destroyed the author of this hunk of crap, as well as the so called court AND the so called judge, have all been removed. Whats wrong….upset that this fake story has been destroyed with such ease?

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          The fact is that you are a liar who persists in his lie despite being busted repeatedly. You claimed Boyle has no law degree. Yet your own link proves that to be false, showing that he has a Doctor of Law degree from Harvard.

          The link: http://www.law.illinois.edu/faculty/profile/francisboyle.

          The proof: https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1271/858/original.jpg

        • kim bunchalastnames

          again: that’s “ass.”

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          I’m not “name calling”. I’m simply observing the fact that you are a liar, repeatedly stating that Boyle has no law degree despite knowing perfectly well that he does.

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            As for this claim of yours I “refuse to check the links” you posted; you know this is a lie, too. First of all, it is “link”, singular. And you know I checked your link. I even posted a screenshot from it showing how your own source in fact shows that Boyle has a Doctor of Law degree.

            Hence your own source proves that you are a liar.

    • kim bunchalastnames

      the american mentioned DOES have a law degree. when you attempt to discredit your opponent’s character in a debate — or perhaps i should say, when you launch an outright ad hominem attack on someone else in an attempt to cast aspersion upon his or her honesty — you should begin by being scrupulously honest, yourself. or you just look like an ass.

      • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

        Yes, Daniel knew Boyle has a Doctor of Law degree yet persisted in lying that he doesn’t anyway. His unwillingness to have an honest discussion and trolling behavior led to my revoking his commenting privileges.

        • Velocet 8

          Ok, how about the idea that having a law degree means very little in the world. Know who else has a law degree? Every lawyer who was ever disbarred for incompetence, illegal acts, or unethical behavior. Lots of prisoners, war criminals, dictators, etc have law degrees.

          Not to mention this article lists Boyle as “Human rights activist Boyle”.

          So what’s your point about the law degree?

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            My point is stated in my previous comment: Daniel lied.

          • Velocet 8

            Ok, little boy, we get it. But you never answered my question, in any post. What bearing does the law degree have on the legitimacy you claim this source to have?

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            You should be directing your question to Daniel, since he was the one arguing that Boyle’s law degree (or absense thereof, as Daniel lied) had a bearing on his legitimacy.

  • Daniel Gray

    Whats wrong Hammond? Mad because the links I posted prove exactly what I said that the chairman and the reporter are racist bigots, the court(?) has no legal authority or standing anywhere in the world and your “professor” may try and claim he has a degree in law, but isnt this just so special that when contacted, the University that he claims to have a degree from has no record of him ever attending or graduating?

    But we cant let the people here see the truth and thats why the links were removed?


    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      What’s wrong is that you are a liar who continues to insist Boyle has no law degree despite having repeatedly been shown from your own source that he has a Doctor of Law degree from Harvard. That is all.

      • Daniel Gray

        Whats wrong is that your buddy is making a claim that the school he says he received a law degree from has no record of him ever attending. He is about as much a lawyer as the twerp that runs this fake commission/court is a judge.

        Sorry if reality hurts.

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          Dude, you said Francis A. Boyle “has NO legal degree”.

          You provided a link you seemed to think supported that assertion: http://www.law.illinois.edu/faculty/profile/francisboyle

          But anyone can click that link and see for themselves that it proves just the opposite, that Boyle has a Doctor of Law degree from Harvard University.

          Did you know that persisting in a lie despite the fact it is a lie being perfectly apparent to everybody is one of the characteristics of psychopathy?

  • Icorps1970

    Its in a MUSLIM country. They are told to lie to the infidel.
    Read the Bio of the author.
    Director-General of the International Muslim Women’s Union. Surely unbiased.

    Just more anti-American Propaganda by some kangaroo court hosted by the ENEMY. Its like believing Joseph Goebbels propaganda about the allied leadership during WW-II.

    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      We may stipulate that it was a “kangaroo court”, yet the fact remains that Bush is a war criminal.

  • matt

    this subject as well as this article deserves no airspace.

  • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

    I am curious why you think the fact that George W. Bush and his accomplices in the war of aggression against Iraq are war criminals is a subject that should not be discussed.

  • Dana Davis

    Cool. We’re going to try Obama next for Libya right?

    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      It’s unlikely, but there’s always hope that these war criminals will be held accountable.

  • kim bunchalastnames

    how do you infer intent?

    • Robert W Rogers

      Not wasting my time on dishonest posters like you. I will say this – I am forming a commission to investigate the killing of whites by blacks ~ it will be made up of 5 KKK members. Sounds about as silly as this story doesn’t it? Go away

  • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

    She asked you a question. Making a personal attack on her character in response is a violation of the terms of use of the comments, a privilege which will be revoked for you if you persist in such rudeness.

    • Robert W Rogers

      I consider her post dishonest as I do your’s. If my comments were not clear enough why such a question was offensive ,as was the article then you should hush and ponder a bit more. Clearly, the article tried to make it appear that a bunch of Muslims who wished to attack an American enemy formed a group that any group could form and have the same value -none. You really expect anyone to care what you and she have to say when you disregard details. As the former Speaker had to say – you are irelevant. Revoke away, I have a life and I won’t even realize you did so.

      • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

        I consider her post dishonest as I do your’s. If my comments were not clear enough why such a question was offensive ,as was the article then
        you should hush and ponder a bit more.

        There is nothing in your comment (“I am not a citizen of the world and the article was meant to mislead – the intent was to lie.”) that would explain how you arrive at the conclusion that her question (“how do you infer intent?”) was either “dishonest” or “offensive”.

        Clearly, the article tried to make it appear that a bunch of Muslims…

        So you reveal your bigotry. Even if they were “a bunch of Muslims” (Francis A. Boyle, e.g., is not), that would, of course, be completely irrelevant — except to a bigot.

        … who wished to attack an American enemy…

        Your verb “attack” being used euphemistically, meaning to take action to hold war criminals accountable.

        …formed a group that any group could
        form and have the same value -none.

        Others may disagree with this opinion of yours. I do, for one, finding great value in the tribunal’s highlighting the fact that Bush, et al, are war criminals.

  • kim bunchalastnames

    “dishonest”? how so? or am i simply to assume that you can’t explain your inference, and so do a little finger tapping on your keyboard with the intent to deflect? oh, wait. i’m just inferring that; the difference is: i can explain why i am doing so, and that is simply because you won’t answer my polite question and attempt to literally dismiss me by saying, “go away,” like a bully in a playground who gets called out. so i will reply, “nyah nyah nyah” and “make me.” lol.

  • Apfel Lyrik

    Not surprising we hear nothing about this in the US. If it was a democrat with a mistress…it would be front page everywhere.

  • Bodhisattva

    Oh gee, Kuala Lumpur, some group of people who had no legal authority and are as confused about reality as those in the U.S. who voted for Obama.

    I’m sure Bush is having trouble sleeping at night over this – NOT!

    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      If you think the war on Iraq was anything other than a war of aggression, “the supreme international crime” as defined at Nuremberg, it is you who are “confused about reality”.

      • Bodhisattva

        When your doctor figures out what combination/dose of drugs brings you back to reality do get back in touch. Not before.

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          You are welcome to present an argument.

          Under international law, there are only two conditions in which resort to armed force are legitimate: 1) cases of self-defense against armed aggression, or 2) cases in which the UN Security Council has authorized the use of force under Chapter VII of the UN Charter.

          The US war on Iraq was neither. Hence a war of aggression, “the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes only in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”

          • Bodhisattva

            Now we both know your doctor didn’t see you yet.

            By your own definition there are conflicts going on all over the world, all the time, which are ‘war crimes’. We both know the history that led up to what happened in Iraq. We both know that the U.N. was not only informed, but was also on board, at least to a certain extent. You are ignoring reality and it’s getting tiresome.

            Many other nations took part in the Iraq war – it’s interesting you’re not also calling their leaders war criminals as well. Obama has been involved in many uses of armed forces and I don’t hear you calling him a war criminal. So let’s not expect you to be completely rational – that would be too big a step, perhaps. But go ahead and admit that Obama is as much a war criminal as Bush, for starters (using your logic, anyway), if you want to continue this discussion.

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            No, the UN was most certainly not “on board” with the invasion of Iraq. Again, the UN did NOT authorize the use of force. Nor, again, was it use of force in self-defense. Hence, by definition, the war on Iraq was a war of aggression, “the supreme international crime”.

            Obama has been involved in many uses of armed forces and I don’t hear you calling him a war criminal.

            Obama is a war criminal.

          • Bodhisattva

            Ah, very good, you’re at least using the same standard consistently, so points to you for that. Go back and read what I said – I did not say “the U.N. was on board with the invasion of Iraq”. The U.N. was informed of the issues, had passed MULTIPLE resolutions, and was ‘on board’ with the fact something had to be done. The U.S. did not go alone, there was a coalition involving many leaders of many nations and I find it odd that George W. Bush is singled out.

            With so many CURRENT wars of aggression going on, why are we making such a big deal out of the fact a brutal and dangerous dictator was deposed? Do you think the world is a better, or worse place with Saddam Hussein out of power in Iraq? Is there not a proper international tribunal where, if there was a case to be made against George Bush, someone would be making it?

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            Go back and read what I said – I did not say “the U.N. was on board with the invasion of Iraq”.

            You did in fact say that “the U.N. was not only informed, but was also on board”, the context of the discussion being the invasion of Iraq.

            But I’ll take your objection/clarification as an acknowledgment of the fact that UN was most certainly not “on board” with the war of aggression against Iraq.

            The U.S. did not go alone, there was a coalition involving many leaders of many nations and I find it odd that George W. Bush is singled out.

            The fact other nations were complicit in “the supreme international crime” does not render it legal. It is natural to focus primarily on the US government given its primary role. It is also natural for Americans to focus primarily on the crimes of their own government.

            With so many CURRENT wars of aggression going on, why are we making such a big deal out of the fact a brutal and dangerous dictator was deposed?

            Because waging a war of aggression is a “big deal” and its perpetrators should be held accountable. The disastrous consequences of the illegal war on Iraq are also evident in the present situation in the Middle East.

            Do you think the world is a better, or worse place with Saddam Hussein out of power in Iraq?

            It think the world would have been a better place had the US not waged a war of aggression against Iraq and the million-plus dead as a result were still alive; the millions of displaced never had to flee their homes; those captured by the occupying forces were never tortured; Iraq’s civilian infrastructure, history, culture, and fabric of society were never obliterated;

            violent extremist groups in Iraq and troughout the region (including the Islamic State/ISIS) had not been unleashed; etc.

            Is there not a proper international tribunal where, if there was a case to be made against George Bush, someone would be making it?

            Your logic is a non sequitur. It does not follow that since there has been no formal international tribunal charging US leaders with war crimes that therefore the Bush administration’s war on Iraq wasn’t a war of aggression. The war was incontrovertibly “the supreme international crime”.

          • Bodhisattva

            Oh, and by the way, apparently it’s your position that the things Saddam was doing and was threatening to do were not sufficient cause for action? Apparently there are others who feel differently. Is what I said above a reasonable approximation, if not exactly (because yes, I admit I can’t read minds) what you seem to me to be thinking on this?

            You might want to get used to the fact that the U.N. is feckless and really is more of a cause of problems in the world, what with how corrupt it’s become, than a source of solutions. Really it should have gone the way of the League of Nations some time ago. We spend so much on sending those involved around the world, spewing carbon all the way, and what have we gotten for it? What significant success has the U.N. given us in return? The last thing they did even partly right was acknowledged that the Jews and the so-called “palestinians” both deserved a piece of the middle east – and you can see how that’s turned out!

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            apparently it’s your position that the things Saddam was doing and was threatening to do were not sufficient cause for action?

            Define “action”. There was no justification for the war of aggression on Iraq.

            The suggestion that the invasion had anything to do with Saddam’s behavior also doesn’t pass the sniff test. This is the same Saddam who was being supported by the US during the period when he committed his most heinous atrocities.

            You might want to get used to the fact that the U.N. is feckless and really is more of a cause of problems in the world, what with how corrupt it’s become, than a source of solutions.

            I completely agree and have written about this, e.g.:


            The UN’s “fecklessness”, as you put it, doesn’t change the fact that the invasion of Iraq was illegal.

          • Bodhisattva

            Last time I checked, the U.S. is subject to the Constitution, not ‘international law’ as it’s supreme law. I know that there are moonbat liberals who want to change this but, thankfully, they have not succeeded.

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            Under the US Constitution, “all treaties made”, i.e., the body of treaties comprising international law, including the UN Charter, to which the US is party, are “the Supreme Law of the Land”.

            I know there are moonbats who have say things like “the US is subject to the Constitution not international law” who evidently have never actually read the Constitution, but the fact is that both customary international law and the formal body of treaties to which the US is party apply to the US.

          • Bodhisattva

            Sorry, once again REALITY PROVES YOU WRONG.

            While the Senate did vote on the original U.N. Charter, it has not ratified many subsequent U.N. actions and until it does they do not fall under that section of the Constitution, which requires treaties (and any future additions, deletions or changes) to be properly ratified by the U.S. Senate before being ‘law of the land’.

            Moonbat you’ve proven yourself to be, I’m not surprised you don’t get this.

            The U.N. doesn’t tell the U.S. what to do, at least it didn’t until Obama took office and, hopefully, it won’t once he’s gone.

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            It is very simple.

            1) The US is a signatory to the UN Charter.

            2) Under the US Constitution, “all treaties made” are “the Supreme Law of the Land”.

            But this is irrelevant to the point. Even if the US was not a party to the UN Charter, its war on Iraq would still be an illegal war of aggression, “the supreme international crime”.

          • Bodhisattva

            You poor self-deluded fool, you still don’t get it.

            Merely being a signatory to the U.N. Charter does not automatically subjugate the U.S. to the nonsense passed by the U.N., Congress still has to agree before it becomes a law that binds or affects the U.S. I gave you an example of this and you still don’t get it.

            You’re a waste of time and effort.

            People like you think you’re ‘making a difference’, ‘changing the world’ – why I bet you’re also convinced that we can (and you’re working diligently to) ‘stop climate change’ too, right?

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            Being a signatory to the UN Charter does, in fact, legally bind the US to abide by its member obligations.

      • Bodhisattva

        I’m onto you – PROOF you are not in touch with reality is available in your book, The Rejection of Palestinian Self-Determination: The Struggle for Palestine and the Roots of the Israeli-Arab Conflict.

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          I welcome you to share this alleged “PROOF” that I am “not in touch with reality”. Good luck with that.

          • Bodhisattva

            Asked and answered – I already provided the case of the U.N. passing some ‘international law’ and it being rejected by the U.S. Senate.

            As for the specific case here – the basis of your book appears to be that Israel and the U.S. have worked to prevent the so-called ‘palestinians’ to be denied self-determination.

            Is there a single sentence, a paragraph, a page or a chapter in your book that deals with THE FACT that Jordan controlled the West Bank and Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip, for quite some time in fact, and never once did anyone take the stance against THEIR prevention of self-determination for those living there. Did you point out in your book that it was arabs, not Israel, who actively prevented any chance of ‘palestinian’ self-determination for decades?

            And you’re so down on ‘wars of aggression’ – how about THE FACT that arabs have launched multiple wars of aggresssion against Israel? Not high on your list of concerns, I bet.

            And what about THE FACT that the U.N. gave ‘palestinians’ the opportunity to form their own country DECADES ago and the ‘palestinians’ rejected it – probably also not presented in your book, at least not honestly.

            Finally, what about all the Israeli peace offers? Do you give honest accounts of these? All the times Israel RECOGNIZED AND ENCOURAGED ‘palestinians’ TO FORM A PROPER, FRIENDLY NATION to live in peace as neighbors and partners, only to have the ‘palestinians’ to respond with violence and death.

            Your book, like your website, is nothing more than poorly thought out propaganda. I have a friend who wrote a children’s book that sold more copies than you have.

          • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

            So you haven’t actually read the book, yet proclaim that within its pages can be found “PROOF” that I am “not in touch with reality”.


            You are banned for trolling and violating the terms of use of the comments section.

  • Bodhisattva

    Is it normal for ‘moderators’ to spew propaganda here?

  • Bodhisattva

    You know, I could have written this piece much better than Yvonne Ridley did.

    George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in a kangaroo court in Malaysia by people with no valid right or reason to do so and no authority whatsoever. The outcome of the ‘trial’ was assured before it even began.

    The farce was the idea of Mahathir Mohamad, who is best known for his destruction of the independence of Malaysia’s judiciary and his implementation of the Internal Security Act, which resulted in the inappropriate detention of activists, non-mainstream religious figures, and political opponents. His record of curbing civil liberties and his antagonism to western interests and economic policy made his relationships with the United States, United Kingdom, and Australia, among others, difficult. It is fairly clear this ridiculous exercise in futility is his way of getting back at the U.S. for whatever it is he still is upset about that happened decades ago.

    Francis Boyle, the closest thing to a legal scholar involved, admitted that this action was purely symbolic. One wonders when he will check into a psychiatric hospital for treatment of his continuing Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    Before the kangaroo court even got properly underway, Jason Kay Kit Leon revealed that at least one of the Judges was biased and had no business taking part, but since it was essentially a mock trial, they ignored him and proceeded.

    Not mentioned was the fact Malaysia had no jurisdiction and no basis for convening this action.

  • Bodhisattva

    Those who claim this is ‘a first’ are liars.

    REF: The People’s Tribunal on Iraq in 2005 in Istanbul.

    It was a joke then, it’s just plain silly now.

    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      The “nonsensical notion” I see here is your suggestion that “refused prosecution due to the ridiculous nature of this whole nonsensical notion that anyone should be going after George Bush.”

      • Bodhisattva

        Be that as it may, we’re how many years out and you and your pitiful ilk are still scrambling to put together mock kangaroo courts when there are real war criminals out there doing things today that directly threaten the peace and stability of the world and you’re ignoring them to engage in your Bush Derangement Syndrome?

        You know, it’s probably better you spin your wheels continuing to hate Bush – you might actually manage to do some real damage if you came to your senses and applied your insanity to some other topic.

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          What silliness. I, of course, had no involvement with tribunal in question.

          Equally silly is describing as “insanity” criticism of the commission of a war of aggression, “the supreme international crime”.

  • Bodhisattva

    Let me give you a clear example of how your contention that the U.S. is subject to U.N. dictates is obviously just a case of denial of reality:

    Senate Votes to Keep U.S. Out of UN Arms Trade Treaty by a vote of 53-46.

    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      The US is party to the UN Charter.

      Under the US Constitution, “all treaties made” are “the Supreme Law of the Land”.

      • Bodhisattva

        And as I just pointed out (apparently you’re one of those who is incapable of incorporating new information) the Senate has a history of rejecting the nonsense that comes from the U.N. and thus it is NOT “the Supreme Law of the Land” and you are once again proven to be OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY.

        The more I think about it, the more I realize that may be a good thing, at least until you realize it, blow a gasket and do something foolishly violent once you realize that’s the only way you’re going to ‘matter’, even though in the end you’ll be wrong about that, too.

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          Let me explain it to you one more time:

          1) The US is a signatory to the UN Charter

          2) Under the US Constitution, “all treaties made” are “the Supreme Law of the Land”.

          See? It is really rather elementary. I’m sure even you could comprehend this if you put your mind to it.

  • Bodhisattva

    It’s odd that the most important parts of articles are often found at the very end… or is it?

    In this case:

    “The Tribunal is fully aware that its verdict is merely declaratory in nature. The tribunal has no power of enforcement, no power to impose any custodial sentence on any one or more of the 8 convicted persons.

    Their plan is to “pass their result on to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council”, all of whom have declined to express an interest in this nonsense for some years.

  • http://www.greasiewheels.com Lisa Wheeler

    What a joke. You can’t convict the president for what happened in Abu Ghraib. Those soldiers are reported to their commander, investigated under Article 32 of the UCMJ, and if enough evidence supports the charge, the soldier receives either a Courts Martial or Article 15. There is a chain of command from which the president is far, far removed.

    • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

      Absolutely false. As the article notes, the policy to torture detainees were approved at the highest levels of government.

      • http://www.greasiewheels.com Lisa Wheeler

        No Jeremy. You’re wrong. Those were rogue actions made by enlisted soldiers at the lowest levels. I worked for JAG. The one to blame was the immediate officer who not only allowed things to get out of control, but actually encouraged it. He was punished. The commanding officer was also relieved.
        As for the article, I didn’t read an article. I read a very poorly written blog on a bogus topic. There’s no journalism here.

        • http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/ Jeremy R. Hammond

          I repeat: the policy to torture detainees were approved at the highest levels of government.

          This is well documented and completely uncontroversial.

  • Kato

    These ASSHOLES need to go to jail

    War Crimes committed

  • Berceuse

    A kangaroo trial in a mock court, presided over by a corrupt, brutal ex-dictator with a long record of human rights violations and “prosecuted” by a treasonous anti-Semite….and substantially misrepresented by a dishonest radical Islam apologist passing herself off as a journalist on an ethically challenged website. Good grief. Moving on…

  • Velocet 8

    I agree that Bush and Cheney are war criminals, but I also agree that this article is terribly written, less than factual, biased, and largely void of credibility in the opinions reflected. This is an amateur effort at something that should be easy to create.

  • Juan Reynoso

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    treason. Self-examination is not disloyalty.”

    Seek the truth and expose and prosecute the criminals.


    16th, 2014

    Fellow Americans,

    The blood of
    the Innocent killed in the Middle East wars is on the hands of the American

    Americans, it is time to stop these illegal wars, the truth is that the wars
    were planned and executed by George W. Bush and his administration for the only
    purpose of controlling the huge oil reserves in the middle east region. The
    great deception, orchestrated and perpetrated upon the American people by Bush
    and continue by Obama had tinted the hands of the American people with the
    blood of our soldiers and the millions of innocent people killed in the wars
    and continue by the cowardly Obama actions of the use of drones in these
    illegal wars.

    Americans, by our complacency, apathy and ignoring the crimes committed by our
    government in the name of America, we are partakers and accomplices of these
    crimes and responsible for this genocide. The world community sees us, as the world’s
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  • WR

    It’s worth considering that Malaysia’s quixotic attempt to hold the war criminals accountable may be behind the fact that Malaysian airliners have twice become targets of unexplained tragedies this year, as warnings to shut up. Or are you a coincidence theorist?

  • http://thisone Lee

    sorry, This country is just better then that, Bush and Cheney need to be accountable for all they did. They broke laws and need to face it. and be tried PERIOS

  • Bob

    Not much doubt about the guilt shared by Bush, Cheney and their cronies during their 8 illegal years in office, thanks to the 5 clowns on the Supreme Court who stopped the ballot counting in Florida so Bush could steal the election. As for the hundreds of thounands of lives lost in Iraq and elsewhere, as well as more than 30,000 of our troops returning home with extremely serious injuries, we can thank Bush, Cheney and company for that. Oh, let’s not forget the 750,000 jobs per month we were losing when Bush left office. We also had 354,000 manufacturing plants close down during his tenure. Yah, we have a lot to thank the Republicons for. And Cheney, the expert on torture, what the hell would he know about torture since he had 5 deferments from military service because he had “other priorities” during the Vietnam war. I hope Halliburton is taking real good care of him after all he did for them. Good job “Dick”

  • hasni

    Well done Dr Mahathir. Well done Malaysia!

  • https://www.facebook.com/rod.prather.7 Rod Prather

    Nothing surprising about this in absentia conviction. Bush has been in absentia since long before he took office continued in that mode since he was elected. In absentia, indeed.

  • hsaive

    Overwhelming evidence 9/11 is (still) a false flag. The idea that Bush et simply committed a war crime is incomplete. The idea that torture was used in the face of a False Flag, State crime by US/Israel is nothing less than sadism.

  • https://www.facebook.com/scott.enk Scott Enk

    So why can’t Malaysia have George W. Bush extradited? Since the United States *does* believe in the rule of law (doesn’t it? ), it should comply swiftly if this occurs and deliver up the convict to face justice. Extradite ‘em all. “American exceptionalism” is an absurd excuse for American lawlessness. This shows exactly why the United Nations, the International Court of Justice, or some other international body needs to take over the United States government until that government and the American people learn that international law, treaties, and norms of human justice and dignity really do apply to the United States of America.