Insurgency Movements in India

Insurgencies do not emerge in a vacuum. Their underlying root causes are invariably to be found in political, socio-economic, or religious domains; their nature and scope depending upon the nature of the grievances, motivations and demands of the people.

India has had its share of insurgencies. In all, an estimated 30 armed insurgency movements are sweeping across the country, reflecting an acute sense of alienation on the part of the people involved. Broadly, these can be divided into movements for political rights (e.g. Assam, Kashmir and Khalistan [Punjab]), movements for social and economic justice (e.g. Maoist [Naxalite] and north-eastern states), and religious grounds (e.g. Laddakh). These causes overlap at times.

Wikipedia lists 16 belligerent groups and 68 major organization as terrorist groups in India, which include: nine in the northeast (Seven Sisters), four in the center & the east (including Maoist/Naxalites), seventeen in the west (Sikh separatist groups), and 38 in the northwest (Kashmir).

Political Causes

By the very nature of its population mix, one that began evolving thousands of years ago with waves of migrants pouring in from adjoining lands at different periods in history, South Asia has never been a homogenous society. The multiplicity of races, ethnicities, tribes, religions, and languages led to the creation of hundreds of sovereign entities all over the subcontinent ruled by tribal and religious leaders and conquerors of all sorts. Like Europe over the centuries, the map of South Asia also kept changing owing to internecine warfare.

One must remember that India in its entire history, until colonized by the British, was never a single nation, nor a united country. The numerous entities were in many cases territorially and population-wise much larger than several European countries, were independently ruled and could qualify for nationhood by any modern standards.

During and after the colonial rule, such territorial entities were lumped together to form new administrative and political units or states, without, in many cases, taking into account the preferences and aspirations of the people. For the people of these territories, which ranged from small fiefdoms to large princely states, and who had for centuries enjoyed independent existence, this administrative and political amalgam amounted to loss of identity and freedom and being ruled by aliens. The new dispensation – democracy, in many cases brought no political or economic advantage.

To complicate matters, hundreds of religious and ethnic groups, some of which are fiercely sectarian and independent in nature, found themselves passionately defending their religions, languages and cultures, at times clashing fiercely with rival groups, challenging the writ of the state in the process.

Thus the artificial nature of the modern state created by the British colonialists and adopted by post-colonial India also triggered violent reactions in several hotspots.

Caste Based Social Discrimination

India’s caste system, which tears apart its social fabric and divides people into potential warring groups, is unique to that country, having no place in the modern world. This sinister game has historically been played by the Brahmans in collaboration with the ruling class to their mutual benefit. The issue assumes more horrific dimensions when those who practice it among the Hindus insist that it is a divinely sanctioned concept and cannot be abrogated by humans. Even the anti-caste activist – Dr. Ambedkar, acknowledges that ‘to destroy caste, all the Hindu shastras would have to be done away with’.

The system confers on the ‘higher’ castes the absolute right to plunder the wealth of those belonging to the ‘lower’ caste or Dalits (or the ‘untouchables’). For over four thousand years, it has been driven by the intense hatred and by the yearning of the ‘higher’ castes to accept nothing less than abject subservience from the ‘lower’ castes. The defenders of this system have argued that it has kept a sense of order and peace among the people and has prevented society from disintegrating into chaos.

Although Dalits make up for the most part of Indian population, they have remained deprived of the benefits of the current economic boom. This is because of the barricades that bar Dalits from having access to education, job opportunities and even state provided healthcare and food. They are forced into menial jobs, denied entry to temples, cremation grounds and river bathing points and cannot even share a barber with the upper caste Hindu. Punishments are severe when these boundaries are transgressed. In Tamil Nadu, for instance, 45 special types of ‘untouchability’ practices are common.

As quoted in a report prepared for the WashingtonPost by Emily Wax; Anup Srivastava is a researcher with the People’s Vigilance Commission on Human Rights in Varanasi. His job requires him to investigate complaints filed by Dalits about discrimination among neighbors, in schools, at hospitals and at work. He says, “India is not a true democracy. The country is independent. But the people aren’t. How can there be a democracy when there are still people known as untouchables who face daily discrimination?”

Despite the fact that the Indian Constitution abolishes it, this caste based discrimination continues because it has infiltrated into the Indian polity, serves the vested interests of a powerful minority and gives it a hold over a helpless majority in the name of religion and ancient social customs. It has even been glorified by M.K. Gandhi who is reported to have said that ‘caste is an integral part of Hinduism and cannot be eradicated if Hinduism is to be preserved’.

The mentality of hate this creates in the lower castes in an age when the concepts of socialism, awareness about human rights and equality and dignity of man are spreading fast, this ‘helpless majority’ has begun to resort to violence to overthrow this out of date system of exploitation. The Maoist Naxalite uprising in eastern India is just one case in point.

Economic Disparity

Of India’s population of 1.1 billion, about 800 million – more than 60% – are poor, many living on the margins of life, lacking some or all of the basic necessities. Despite its emergence as Asia’s third biggest economy, India has the highest illiteracy rate in the world – 70% and the people lack adequate shelter, sanitation, clean water, nutrition, health care and job opportunities. The groups that are mostly left behind are minorities. There is a growing concern that unless this situation is addressed, the country will be torn apart by the despair and rage of the poor.

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Shahid Siddiqi

Shahid R. Siddiqi began his career in the Pakistan Air Force. He later joined the corporate sector with which he remained associated until recently in a senior management position. Alongside, he worked as a broadcaster with Radio Pakistan and remained the Islamabad bureau chief of an English weekly magazine ‘Pakistan & Gulf Economist’. In the U.S. he co-founded the Asian American Republican Club in Maryland in 1994 to encourage the participation of Asian Americans in the mainstream political process. He now writes columns and can be reached at shahidrsiddiqi@gmail.com. 

34 Responses to "Insurgency Movements in India"

  1. Tarun  December 23, 2010 at 10:05 am

    I suggest that Shahid R Siddique concentrate on his country-Pakistan which is a failed basketcase of terrorism than India. India despite all its problems has started to provide decent jobs and living standards to people from all states including Assam (there is an IIT in assam and several assamese work in India’s booming IT and call center industry). In contrast Pakistan is a mafia state led by its army with no economic growth and demands for independence from everyone from Baluchistan to Sindh.It has thw worst human rights record in the world with blasphemy laws and all sorts of nonsensical medieval theocratic shenenigans. The only source of employment for pakistanis is the army and pak has zero economic growth. Criticising India by a pakistani is like a prostitute criticising a housewife for infidelity.

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    • HAROON SIDDIQUI  December 24, 2010 at 1:01 am

      786:
      I APPRECIATE THE HONESTY OF TARUN WHEN HE SAYS ” PAKISTAN IS A BASKET CASE OF TERROSIM”.
      PAKISTAN STARTED VERY CONFIDENTIALLY AFTER INDEPENDENCE, AND STARTED PROSPEROUSLY IN INDUSTRY, AGRICULTURE, DEFENCE, EDUCATION AND PROSPERITY IN STANDARD OF LIVING OF PAKISTANIS, AND WITH GOOD REPUTATION IN THE COMMUNITY OF NATIONS OF THE WORLD.
      BUT THANKS TO INDIA WHO CREATED THE KASHMIR PROBLEM, AND INVITED TERROISM. THIS RESULTED IN THREE WARS, BREAKIG UP OF PAKISTAN, AND ALL ECONOMY WAS DRAGGED IN BUILDING UP DEFENCE FORCES, DIRTY POLITICS TURNED PAKISTAN INTO A STRUGGLING FOR ITS EXISTENCE AND SERVIVAL.
      DEAR, CAN YOU GIVE ONE REASON WHY YOU DIDN’T SOLVED THE KASHMIR PROBLEM ON THE SAME FORMULA, YOU TOOK OVER HYDERABAD DECCAN, JUNAGADH, MANAWADER, ETC. I.E, MAJORITY TAKES THE STATE, MUSLIMS/ HINDUS.

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      • RM  December 26, 2010 at 5:59 pm

        This is priceless. According to Haroon Siddiqui all of Pakistan’s problems are because of India. Never mind its Kashmir/India obsessed military that has brought nothing but misery to that country, it is still all India’s fault.

        The definition of a “problem” for Pakistan is its endless demand for Kashmir. According to India there is no problem. Kashmir is theirs and they have no plans of making any changes. If Pakistan has a problem with that then it is their problem,

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  2. Tarun  December 23, 2010 at 10:07 am

    And yes I forgot that pakistan’s biggest export apart from agri and textiles is terrorism.

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    • HAROON SIDDIQUI  December 24, 2010 at 2:24 am

      786:
      AGAIN YOU ARE HONEST, DEAR.
      JUST CORRECT ONE WORD PLEASE. IT IS IMPORT NOT EXPORT.
      WE MUSLIMS HAVE A VERY LONG HISTORY WITH YOUR PART OF EX-INDIA, AND WE KNOW EACH OTHER VERY, VERY, WELL.
      WE KNOW WELL WHAT YOUR NUMEROUS EMBASSIES IN AFGHANISTAN ARE DOINGS, AND HOW MUCH ACTIVE YOU ARE IN CREATING PROBLEMS IN BALOCHISTAN.
      WE KNOW WHAT YOU GAIN FROM INCIDENTS OF STOCK EXCHANGE, SAMJHOTA EXPRESS, TRAIN INCIDENTS, ETC.

      WE KNOW THAT 70 PERSCENT OF YOUR ARMY AND AIRFORCE IS SPREAD ON OUR WESTERN BORDERS AND YOU TIME AND AGAIN CREATED PROBLEMS IN BOMBAY.
      ANY WAY, WHY DON’T YOU LIVE AT EASE AND LET US LIVE IN PEACE.
      HAVE A NICE NEW YEAR.

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      • shivesh  December 30, 2010 at 5:12 pm

        Sorry friend , we indians never allowed the insurgency in our country or any where in the world.
        For Baluchistan conflicts you are more responsible.And by the way we have helped you to save baluchistan as ur part. If u have some knowlege of foriegn policy and relationship history you should know that in 1973-74 Baluchistan conflict we kept ourselves away to support Baluch army against Pakistan and that time pak govt. stated thanks to us publicly for that.

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  3. Vijay Jyoti  December 23, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    A very, very good article. Mr. Siddiqui has brilliantly elucidated the point. No sustainable progress in India is possible, unless the fundamentals are right. Building an economy on poor foundation will only givd an illusion, and will be transitory. Instead of just building a ‘showcase India’, India needs to direct and divert all it has to correct the root defect.

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  4. Syed Ataur Rahman  December 24, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Mr Shahid Siddiqui as usual is brilliant, precise and accurate. There are over 300 million people in India, almost twice the population of Pakistan who live well below the poverty line, where racial and communal tension is at its peak, there is discrimination and killing of women, there is caste wars where human beings are treated like animals. So what progress has India made? Yes, for the West India is country that measures to their sexual and boozing appetite that is cheap and available everywhere, and so they throng to that country as ‘tourists’. Indians should be ashamed of themselves; they do not live in harmony with even one of their neighbours, so what human rights and so called democracy are they talking about? Yes, they champion sexuality, promiscuity, eroticism (Bombay film industry) etc. So if this is progress and democracy good luck to India and Indians. Of course there are good, decent and fair people there too who abhor such modernism and ‘progress’ and would like a more honourable existence, but I hope this population is not shrinking or then there is no hope for India. My advise to India is live and love your neighbours, stop being so militant and aggressive and learn to live and let live not try and export terrorism like they are doing in Afghanistan.

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    • HAROON SIDDIQUI  December 25, 2010 at 9:10 pm

      786
      MR. SHAHID ‘S ABOVE ARTICLE, AS USUAL, IS A WORK OF DEEP RESEARCH, HONEST FACTS, CORRECT ASSESSMENT, AND CLEAN
      CONCLUSIONS.
      MR. REHMAN’S CONCLUDING LINES IN THE ABOVE REPLY IS THE CRRECT REMEDY OF THE PROBLEM.

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  5. Kisholoy  December 26, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Insurgency in the NorthEast of India excepting Assam, is engineered by the Christians of Europe and North America.Assam’s one is the natural corrolary of the Assam Accord by Rajiv Gandhi.

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  6. Tarun  December 27, 2010 at 9:32 am

    Why should kashmir problem be solved on the basis of majority view. By that yardstick pakistan would never have been created because majority people in Indian subcontinent wanted a united India. in fact it was Jinnah who said that the principal of pakistan was based on the premise that “majorityism cannot be basis for decision making’ . Now pakistan which was formed on the principal that minority muslims cannot live with majority hindus in a democratic India is demanding that India accept the view of majority sunni muslims in kashmir. How ironic.

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  7. James  December 28, 2010 at 7:54 am

    Mr. Shahid R. Siddiqi represents those kind of people from Pakistan who were recently caught spreading fake stories through fake wikileaks. Khalistan is a dead issue and what is this Tamil thing, Tamils are fighting in SRI LANKA, which is not in India, Seven sister states are more integrated today then ever before….In kashmir the only problem is in Kashmir VALLEY(which is the smallest part of J&K).

    Now lets look at The small country known as Pakistan…BALOCHISTAN has never considered itself Pakistan, Balochistan makes up for 45% of Land area and almost all the resources…Pashtun areas are more united with Afghanistan than Punjabi Pakistan and don’t even consider the Durand Line as their border…as per a recent survey the demand for an Independent PASHTUNISTAN is all time high…The Gilgit Baltistanis too are asking for a seperate BALWARISTAN…and how can u forget Sindhis who hate Punjabis and want a seperate SINDHUDESH

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  8. James  December 28, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Mr Siddiqi please focus on your own Country, Pakistan is both a fake and a failed state, in its whole history, the piece of land that today is known as Pakistan….has never ruled itself….Pakistan was ruled by Indians(Nandas, Mauryas, Guptas, Palas), Greeks(Alexander), Arabs(Rashiuddin and Umaayad), Persians(Achaemenids, Sassanids), Turkics(Ghaznavi, Delhi Sultanate and Mughals) , Afghans(Ghauri and Abdali) and Britishers…Pakistan was never ever a country and is not meant to be one, it has no history and no culture of its own, The language Urdu, which is Pakistan’s NATIONAL LANGUAGE is a borrowed from India…The native Pakistani languages are Punjabi, Sindhi etc. The heroes of Pakistan are also borrowed from outside like Abdali, Qasim, Ghauri and Ghaznavi…Is there any Pakistani hero that you people can claim?

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    • HAROON SIDDIQUI  December 28, 2010 at 6:38 pm

      786
      MY HATS OFF TO THE GREAT HISTORIAN HONOURABLE JAMES. BUT WHY DO YOU STARTED FROM NANDAS OR MAURYAS OR GUPTAS, WHY NOT RIGHT FROM MR. AADAMM & MRS. HAWWA. [ AS PER MUSLIM FAITH ] AND ACCORDING TO MR. DARWIN’S THEORY, MR. MRS. MONKEY, OR MR & MRS DINOSAURE, WERE THE RIGHT OWNERS OF INDIA. AND IN RECENT HISTORY RED INDIANS ARE THE OWNERS OF USA NOT MR OBAMA.
      MR. JAMES, THIS IS 21ST CENTURY, AND I HUMBLY REQUEST YOU TO THINK ANDTALK ABOUT THE SITUATION OF 21ST CENTURY.
      MUSLIMS RULED INDIA FOR ABOUT A THOUSAND YEARS. THE INVADERS BRITISH TOOK OVER FROM THEM, AS RULE OF HISTORY THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN INDIA TO MUSLIMS, BUT THAT WAS REDICULOUS IN THIS MODERN WORD, SO THE MOST PRACTICAL SOLUTION WAS PARTITION OF INDIA, AND NOW THAT HAS TAKEN EFFECT WE SHOULD SIT TOGATHER AND SOLVE THE PROBLEMS.
      YOU HAVE TAKEN, HYDERABAD, JUNAGARH, MANAWADER, RAMPUR, BHOPAL, ETC ETC. LET US HAVE OUR KASHMIR PLEASE.

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      • kris  December 29, 2010 at 4:20 am

        what a logic – as if Muslims were not Invaders.

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      • Tarun  December 29, 2010 at 4:59 am

        Is kashmir an apple that we will give to pakistan. And what is the basis of your saying that britishers should have given back india to muslims. Is india a jagir of muslims that we would be ruled by muslims. And for your kind information, the muslim rule over india is considered the dark age of India when all money was spent in building mosques and harems. Who wants to go back to dark ages. Try taking kashmir from us, our military will break your back.

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        • HAROON SIDDIQUI  December 29, 2010 at 9:39 pm

          786:
          DEAR, DON’T GET ANGRY, IT IS BAD FOR HEALTH, AND I LOVE INDIANS, I WAS BORN IN ” UP “, AND SPENT MY YOUNG DAYS [ BEFORE PARTITION ] IN BOMBAY, POONA, MADRAS, ETC ETC, MY BEST FRIENDS IN SCHOOL DAYS WERE NON MUSLIMS ALSO.
          SO, DON’T THINK ABOUT BREAKING ” BACK “.
          AND THEN AGAIN IT IS NOT ” 1971 ” NOW. BOTH OF OUR COUNTRIES ARE ATOMIC POWERS, AND GOD FORBIDS IN AN ATOMIC WAR BOTH FIGHTRS LOOSE .
          DEAR, LET US COOLY THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR GRAND CHILDREN, DO THE SAME WITH KASHMIR, THAT YOU DID WITH HYDEABAD, JUNAGADH, BHOPAL, RAMPUR, MANWADER AND SCOES OTHER STATE.

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          • Tarun  December 30, 2010 at 6:07 am

            May be you dont understand what a nuclear war means. Both India and Pakistan have 100+ nuclear weapons. India in addition has plutonium to build upto a thousand warheads and pakistan is building more. In addition Indian frontline troops are now being equipped with NBC protection gear. A nuclear war will be a total war which will lead to more than 200mn dead on both sides. India with a population of 1.2bn will be less by 200mn people but pakistan with a population of 180mn would be extinct. And dont forget Indian navy and airpower will largely remian intact in a nuclear war which will pound pakistani cities and towns (remember destruction of Karachi in 1971). Unless China actively steps in , a nuclear war will be the extinction of Pakistan.Do you want to exhaust yourself to claim Kashmir. Moreover dont forget the following points:
            UN plebiscite calls upon Pakistan to withdraw from all parts of Kashmir it has occupied and for Indian troops to take over those parts before a plebiscite can be held by India. If pakistan is willing to fulfill these conditions, then I would not mind.

  9. Nasir Khan  December 28, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Mr James I do not want to intrude into the advice you offer to Mr Siddiqi about Pakistan!

    But your comment reveals much confusion in describing and interpreting history of a country like Pakistan. It seems what say about Pakistan is more in a rhetorical way rather than presenting your views in an historical perspective. However, I do not intend to deal with all the issues you have raised in your comment but will take only one point of yours. After mentioning those who have ruled over the territories now called Pakistan over the last twenty-five centuries, you assert that Pakistan ‘has no history and no culture of its own’. That is a strange claim.

    Pakistan came into existence in 1947 after the partition of the subcontinent into two states. But the people who lived in the areas and territories had various ethnic identities and cultures for the last five thousand years. They had their cultures, languages and sometimes their local rulers also. But cultures change with the passage of time and so do the languages. The nations, nationalities, castes, tribal fraternities who inhabited these vast stretches of land since the ancient times have their histories and cultures. The establishment of Pakistan in 1947 did not mean that the histories of the areas and the peoples and their cultures in a new political entity, Pakistan, had vanished. They are all part of the history and culture of Pakistan. Even if Pakistan ceases to exist, the history or histories and cultures of the peoples of the teritories that formed Pakistan will continue to exist.

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    • HAROON SIDDIQUI  December 30, 2010 at 7:49 am

      786:
      IN FACT ALL THE MUSLIM POPULATION IN INDIA AND PAKISTAN ARE NOT BY ARAB DYNASTY, WHO BROUGHT ISLAM IN SOUTH ASHIA. MAJORITY ARE PERSONS WHO JOINED MUSLIM RELIGION FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES.

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  10. Nasir Khan  December 28, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Mr James I do not want to intrude into the advice you offer to Mr Siddiqi about Pakistan. But your comment reveals much confusion in describing and interpreting history of a country like Pakistan. It seems what say about Pakistan is more in a rhetorical way rather than presenting your views in an historical perspective. However, I do not intend to deal with all the issues you have raised in your comment but will take only one point of yours. After mentioning those who have ruled over the territories now called Pakistan over the last twenty-five centuries, you assert that Pakistan ‘has no history and no culture of its own’. That is a strange claim.

    Pakistan came into existence in 1947 after the partition of the subcontinent into two states. But the people who lived in the areas and territories had various ethnic identities and cultures for the last five thousand years. They had their cultures, languages and sometimes their local rulers also. But cultures change with the passage of time and so do the languages. The nations, nationalities, castes, tribal fraternities who inhabited these vast stretches of land since the ancient times have their histories. The establishment of Pakistan in 1947 did not mean that the histories of the areas and the peoples and their cultures in a new political entity, Pakistan, had vanished. They became part of of the history and culture of Pakistan, and as long as Pakistan exists, they will continue to be part of Pakistan’s history.

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    • kris  December 29, 2010 at 4:29 am

      Pakistani history books have been rewritten and true history of Pakistan before 1947 has been wiped out and distorted. Scholars know it.

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    • kris  December 29, 2010 at 4:31 am

      Even quaid e azam Jinnah’s speech has been rewritten.

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  11. Khalsa  December 29, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Our Indian brothers should not write off the Khalistan issue so fast. Today in Punjab the Khalistanis are viewed as heroes, there pictures lace the streets of Punjab (on cars and posters).

    But unlike other movements, Sikhs have also migrated out of India and become very successful in western countries. India can no longer use terrorist methods to subdue the movement one it starts.

    After the fall of the Sikh Empire, every 20 to 30 years there has been a movement for freedom by the Sikh community, and it continues today. With the Khalistan movement ending in 1995, and if history repeats itself, the next movement will start in about 2015 to 2025.

    Type in the world Khalistan on google and u get over a million hits. The population of Sikhs is about 25 million, thats one website for every 25 people. Wonder if the movements restarting, hmmmm.

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  12. Siv O'Neall  December 29, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Just one point that noone here has paid any attention to. How come nobody realized that the Dalits don’t by any means make up over half of the Indian population. The upper castes even try to hide the Dalits as much as it’s possible, to keep them sequestered in their own villages so that their shadows may not fall on a Brahmin etc. etc. The Dalits in point of fact make up about 16% of the population and the upper castes through this horrible caste system and its rules do manage to make them more or less invisible. They are a definite minority, the same as the Muslims. It’s interesting to notice though how most people, i.e. NOT the governments (since there’s a government in each state) are perfectly comfortable with the people of the different religion. It’s NOT the people who are at the root of the horrible events, such as the Gujarat killings of Muslims in 2002, which set the machine of religious hatred flaring – after the politicians had led the incendiary machine. Heaven knows in what way they can profit from this hatred, but rdivide a

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  13. Siv O'Neall  December 29, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Just one point that noone here has paid any attention to. How come nobody realized that the Dalits don’t by any means make up over half of the Indian population. The upper castes even try to hide the Dalits as much as it’s possible, to keep them sequestered in their own villages so that their shadows may not fall on a Brahmin etc. etc. The Dalits in point of fact make up about 16% of the population and the upper castes through this horrible caste system and its rules do manage to make them more or less invisible. They are a definite minority, the same as the Muslims. It’s interesting to notice though how most people, i.e. NOT the governments (since there’s a government in each state) are perfectly comfortable with the people of the different religion. It’s NOT the people who are at the root of the horrible events, such as the Gujarat killings of Muslims in 2002, which set the machine of religious hatred flaring – after the politicians had led the incendiary machine. Heaven knows in what way they can profit from this hatred, but divide and conquer has for ever been the motto of the power people, as we know all too well.

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  14. HAROON SIDDIQUI  December 30, 2010 at 6:52 am

    786:
    I AM HAPPY THAT YOU ARE TALKING MORE REALISTICALLY NOW.
    DEAR, WE ARE AWARE THAT INDIA IS ABOUT SEVEN TIMES MORE IN POPULATION, SIMILARLY IN NUMER OF TROOPS, AIRFORCE, AND SHIPS, ETC. ETC. AND GOD FORBIDS, GOD FORBIDS, IN A NUCLEAR WAR MILLIONS OF HUMANBEINGS WILL LOOSE THEIR LIVES, MOST OF THE LAND WILL BECOME USE LESS FOR CULTIVATION AND LIVING, FOR YEARS TO COME, BUT MIND YOU IT WILL BE ON BOTH SIDES, AND WIND DIRECTIONS WILL PLAY A MAJOR PART IN INFLECTING DAMAGE WHICH WILL BE UNTHINKABLE.
    BUT DEAR WE PAKISTANIS AND INDIANS ARE SUFFICIANTLY EDUCATED TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOW WE ARE NOT HALAKOOS WHO WERE HAPPY I COUNTING HEADS.WE ARE EDUCATED, INTELLIGENT PERSONS AND WILL NEVER MAKE THE SITUATIONS COME TO NUCLEAR STAG.
    MY WHOLE ARGUMENT IS WHY SHOULD THERE BE A DIFFERENCE IN SOLVING KASHMIR PROBLEM LIKE YOU DID WITH HYDERABD DECCAN, JUNAGADH, MANAWADER, BHOPAL, RAMPUR ETC. ETC.
    LET US GO BACK TO UNO AND TRY OUR BEST TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL, HONESTLY.

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  15. HAROON SIDDIQUI  December 30, 2010 at 7:31 am

    786:
    MY ABOVE COMMENTS ARE IN REPLY TO MR.. TARUN ‘S LAST COMMENTS.

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  16. Siv O'Neall  December 30, 2010 at 8:39 am

    I posted a comment here yesterday but it has mysteriously disappeared.

    You know a lot about India and its furious struggles and infights. But I was taken aback though by your statement that Dalits “make up for the most part of the Indian population”. They actually just make up for about 16 % of the population – an estimated 180 million. However, Arun Kamar said in August 2010 at http://www.countercurrents.org/akumar030810.htm – that “According to a new Oxford University study, 55 percent of India’s population of 1.1 billion, or 645 million people, are living in poverty.” And even worse – he says that “In India, 75.6 percent of the population, or 828 million people, live below the poverty line as compared to 72.2 percent, or 551 million people in sub-Saharan Africa.” I will never understand how they can have the nerve to call themselves a democracy. But they are of course far from alone in the misuse of this word.

    You say that “dalits make up for the most part of Indian population, they have remained deprived of the benefits of the current economic boom.” Well, of course they have not benefited from the current economic boom. They are a minority and so they are practically hidden away from everyday life in India, living in segregated villages, doing filthy work that nobody else will do. They are not treated much better than the tribal peoples, the Adivasis whose homes and land in the forests are currently being taken away from them in order to make it possible for the Big Corporations to mine their land. Quote: The Maoist/ Naxalite uprising in eastern India is just one case in point – mentioned in the context of the Dalits. But this uprising is mainly concerned with the Adivasis (the tribal peoples, another minority) and it seems to me that you might be mixing up the Dalits and the tribal peoples a bit, even though you do go on to mention the tribal areas later on, in the context of .Naxalites or Maoists. The tribal peoples are believed to be the aborigines of India.

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  17. shivesh  December 30, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Haroon Siddiqui forget about HYDEABAD, JUNAGADH, BHOPAL, RAMPUR, MANWADER etc . Because if you will ask Muslims in these states they are in better condition than the muslims and hindus in pak.
    If India will force these states to become the part of PAK they will surely deny as the destructing condition there

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  18. Siv O'Neall  December 30, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    What IS happening to my comments that keep disappearing??? Could the editors please tell me what’s happening here? Or rather the webmaster.

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      Jeremy R. Hammond  December 31, 2010 at 2:21 pm

      Your comments are right where you left them. Perhaps you’re only looking at the first page of comments. You need to click the link to see newer comments. Of course, if you don’t do that, you won’t see this comment either, which makes it rather pointless for me to tell you.

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