The official account of the Twin Towers’ destruction was produced by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and released in September of 2005. Unfortunately, NIST’s report provided only a hypothesis of the events leading up to the initiation of the collapses, or the “collapse initiation sequence.” NIST did not attempt to explain how, once the collapses initiated, the upper sections of these 110-story skyscrapers would continue falling downward through the path of greatest resistance, instead simply asserting that, once each building was destabilized, “global collapse ensued.” However, we can examine the general features of NIST’s collapse initiation sequence for both Twin Towers to see if it is consistent with known facts, or is at least self-consistent.
The seven steps of NIST’s collapse initiation sequence that are common to both Twin Towers are as follows:[1]
1. A number of columns were severed by aircraft impact.
2. Loads were redistributed to the remaining columns.
3. Fireproofing was “widely dislodged”.
4. Columns and floor assemblies were softened by high temperatures.
5. Softened floor assemblies began to sag.
6. Sagging floors pulled the exterior columns inward, causing columns to buckle.
7. Instability spread around the exterior of the building.
The first two steps of this sequence are not surprising. With regard to step one, we can accept that approximately 15% of the columns were severed in each building by aircraft impact. This is quite low compared to original design claims reported in the mid-1960s by the Engineering News-Record that said the towers could lose more than 25% of their columns without having any problems. As for the second step, NIST says the loads actually decreased on some columns and increased slightly for others. Again, there is no problem here considering similar design claims that the exterior columns could withstand 2,000% increases in live load.[2]
With step three, we get to the core of NIST’s collapse initiation argument. The report states that “The WTC towers likely would not have collapsed under the combined effects of aircraft impact damage and the extensive, multi-floor fires if the thermal insulation had not been widely dislodged or had been only minimally dislodged by aircraft impact.” Considering that NIST depends so heavily on the concept of extensive fireproofing loss, you would think it would have spent a great deal of its time investigating this effect and communicating the details. That was not the case, however.
NIST’s only test for fireproofing loss, never included in the draft reports, involved shooting a total of fifteen rounds from a shotgun at non-representative samples in a plywood box. Flat steel plates were used instead of column samples and no floor deck samples were tested at all. After criticism of the lack of testing provided in its draft report, NIST inserted the results into a 12-page appendix to the final report.[3]
These shotgun tests actually disproved NIST’s findings. One reason is that there is no evidence that a Boeing 767 could transform into any number of shotgun blasts. Nearly 100,000 blasts would be needed based on NIST’s own damage estimates, and these would have to be directed in a very symmetrical fashion to strip the columns and floors from all sides. It is much more likely that the aircraft debris was a distribution of sizes from very large chunks to a few smaller ones, and that it was directed asymmetrically along the path of the impacting airliner. Moreover, there is no indication that fireproofing could have been stripped from beneath the aluminum cladding on the exterior columns, but in subsequent steps of its explanation, NIST depends on this.
NIST’s shotgun tests indicated that 1 MJ of energy was needed per square meter of surface area to shear the fireproofing off. For the areas in question―more than 6,000 square meters of column, floor deck and floor joist surface―the extra energy needed would be several times more than the entire amount of kinetic energy available to begin with. [4]
The problems with NIST’s explanation continue in step four, where high temperatures were said to have softened the columns and floors. NIST did tests for this as well, but then abandoned the results. The first test, which examined paint deformation on steel samples chosen specifically from the fire zones, showed that less than 2% of the samples had seen temperatures above 250 °C. Another test gave the one-sided result that no samples saw temperatures above 600 °C. The obvious problem was that steel does not soften or lose significant strength at the low temperatures indicated, yet NIST’s story depends on the softening or weakening of vast quantities of structural steel.
Fire resistance tests for the steel components used in the Twin Towers were performed by Underwriters Laboratories (UL) at the time of construction, and the results verified conformance to the New York City code requirements for multiple hours of fire resistance at the temperatures expected in a building fire.[5] On 9/11, according to NIST, the fires in the failure zones did not actually last very long. NIST’s estimates indicate that the fires in the failure zones of the towers lasted for only about 45 minutes in each case, much less than the 3 or 4 hours of fire resistance required by the NYC code. [6]
As for step five, UL performed additional tests as part of the NIST investigation in order to establish the fire resistance of models of the WTC floor assemblies. The results were that the floor assembly models not only didn’t collapse, invalidating the longstanding “Pancake Theory,” but the floors barely sagged―only about 3 inches―despite the use of double the known floor load and two hours of fire exposure.[7] NIST then added this 3-inch of sag result to its computer model, and by way of an unknown transformation, it suddenly became 42-inches of extreme sagging.[8] This appears to have been a direct falsification of test results.
Step six says that sagging floors pulled exterior columns inward. To support this, NIST evaluated nine different scenarios within its computer model, with just one of those producing any inward bowing. To do this, NIST had to take a computer mock-up of a 9-story high by 9-column wide section of steel wall and perform manipulations that had no relevance to the events at the World Trade Center. NIST removed the virtual steel from its web of support by “disconnection,” stripped off all the fireproofing, exposed it to twice the known fire time (i.e. 90 minutes), and then applied an unspecified, utterly miraculous inward pull.[9] It is difficult to understand how an inward pull force could be applied to columns that have been disconnected from the floors. It is the floors that are supposed to have applied the inward force on the columns.
NIST’s final collapse initiation step states that, after all of these unscientific manipulations, “instability spread” around the entire building. Since the buildings came down uniformly into their footprints, and did so in approximately 10 seconds, there was precious little time for instability spread. If we allot half a second to accomplish this, the instability would have had to move at nearly twice the speed of sound. That is, of course, not realistic.
After providing a false collapse initiation sequence, NIST left us to ponder the idea that “global collapse ensued.” With this statement, NIST avoided analyzing the actual collapse dynamics, perhaps because they knew the observed phenomena violated everything we know about physics and the performance of steel skyscrapers, unless the use of explosives is allowed for consideration.
This article was originally published at ReThink911.org and has been republished by Foreign Policy Journal with permission from the author.
References
[1] See NIST NCSTAR1, Final Report on the Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers, Principal Findings, 175 (http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1CollapseofTowers.pdf) and, in more detail, NCSTAR 1-6, Probable Collapse Sequences, p 299 to 309 (http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1- 6.pdf)
[2] For the original design claims, see “Structures Can Be Beautiful, World’s Tallest Buildings Pose Esthetic and Structural Challenge to John Skilling,” and “How Columns Will Be Designed for 110-Story Buildings,” Engineering News-Record, April 2, 1964. The exact comments were that “live loads on these [perimeter] columns can be increased more than 2000% before failure occurs” and “one could cut away all the first-story columns on one side of the building, and part way from the corners of the perpendicular sides, and the building could still withstand design live loads and a 100-mph wind force from any direction.”
[3] See NIST NCSTAR 1-6A, Appendix C, http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1-6A.pdf
[4] NIST gave 2,500 MJ as the kinetic energy provided by the aircraft impacting the north tower. Professor Tomasz Wierzbicki from MIT, in a report called Aircraft Impact Damage, calculated that all of this energy was consumed in damaging the aircraft and the building, with no energy remaining.
[5] See Kevin Ryan, Propping Up the War on Terror: Lies About the WTC by NIST and Underwriters Laboratories, in David Ray Griffin and Peter Dale Scott, eds., 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out (Northampton, Mass.: Interlink Books, Fall 2006).
[6] In NCSTAR 1-6, section 9.4.3 (p 322) and section 10.9.4 (p 338), NIST says “The fires in WTC 2 reached the east side of the building more quickly, within 10 to 20 minutes, than the 50 to 60 minutes it took the fires in WTC 1 to reach the south side.”http://wtc.nist.gov/oct05NCSTAR1-6index.htm In both cases, this would leave approximately 45 minutes of fire time in the failure zone.
[7] In NCSTAR 1-6, it says “…four standard fire resistance tests (ASTM E119) of the floor truss assemblies with twice the floor load that was on the WTC floors.” Chapter 10, p 332, Finding 17.
[8] The extent of the floor deck sagging after the unrealistic time of two hours can be seen in NCSTAR 1-6 Figure 3-11 (p 49). The 3-inch result is visible there or, based on the 45-minute duration of fires in the failure zones, it can be seen in the graph of Figure 3-15 (p 52). The unsupported computer result of 42-inches of sagging is noted in the same report, Chapter 9, Figure 9-6 (p 297).
[9] NIST’s Case 8, the “DBARE” result, was finally successful at causing inward bowing of a highly manipulated computer mock-up. It is described in NCSTAR 1-6, Chapter 4, tables 41-14 and 4-15 and pages 111 to 115.
Got it, Mr Ryan: readers should conclude, based on your analysis, that the NIST report was authored by know-nothings and incompetents or by conspirators pursuing an evil agenda. Did I miss a 3rd option?
If the facts lead you to either of those conclusions, they are your own conclusions. It is a fallacy, though, to dismiss the facts that led you to them simply because you are disinclined to believe them.
The NIST Report was authored by pussies in too deep.
the NIST report was authored mostly by real scientists – i have been exchanging emails with one of them. the thing is, he was given very odd bits of data and was paid to do calculations from the given data that could explain a feasible explanation of why one part of one of the buildings could have fallen a certain direction. he did the math and wrote his part of the report. the NISTs leaders picked pieces from context. The NISTs project leader, John Gross, does appear to be very deliberately and obviously pursuing misinformation and lies. He publicly denied any report of molten steel at ground zero, despite dozens of eyewitness, police, firefighters, survivors, and construction workers who described the molten steel. you can watch the video of his denial – its funny – its almost like “wink wink, of course i am lying”. just youtube molten steel at wtc, or nist denies molten steel. so, it appears that one or two corrupt leaders were in fact hiding and distorting the facts in some attempt to cover up the full extent of the wtc collapse. There’s your 3rd option…. the NIST tried to deny the free-fall collapse of building 7, but after 2 years of pressure and ridicule, they went back and changed the final report, issuing a new “update to the final report” in 2007. its sad. the report is full of misleading information and pointless data. it explains very little about the collapse.
Why they would hide the facts, i have no idea. is it an evil agenda? i say it is lying and is therefore at least a little bit evil.
Thanks for your reply, Billy. I’m no authority on the events of 9/11, nor do I care for the reams of amateur analyses and conspiracy theories that pollute the web. I’m more concerned with what I see as an ominous trend in the U.S. and the developed world in general: the will to disbelieve what our governments tell us, even in cases where no reasonable basis for doubt can be demonstrated. It angers me to see folks in the U.S., and abroad (some apparently with high school education or less) accuse the U.S. government of orchestrating a scheme to bring down the WTC (according to some, in order to create a pretext for “kicking muslim ass overseas”.)
How stupid/irrational does one need to be to believe that?
Mike, there are very reasonable bases for doubt about the official hypotheses for the collapse of the towers. This article presents some to you. Here’s another: WTC 7 collapsed at free fall acceleration, which means all the building’s potential energy was converted to kinetic energy, which means there was no energy available to do the work of buckling the columns as required by NIST’s fire-induced collapse hypothesis.
“WTC 7 collapsed at free fall acceleration, which means all the building’s potential energy was converted to kinetic energy, which means there was no energy available to do the work of buckling the columns as required by NIST’s fire-induced collapse hypothesis”
I don’t buy it, Mr Hammond. I’ve been around a long time, and I’m not aware of any significant expert consensus that supports your claims. I can point to any number of ‘experts’ who claim to prove all sorts of nonsense ..alien visitations, Jewish or American conspiracies to control the world, bigfoot ..you name it. In my view, this issue of the WTC collapse is horrifically complex. It can be a neat toy, a pliant plaything for folks who wish to create perceptions that bear little relation to the truth.
(apologies if this reply was posted twice)
Mike, please be specific about which part of what I said you “don’t buy”. Do you not “buy” that WTC 7 collapsed at free fall acceleration? Because NIST acknowledges that fact. Do you not “buy” that free fall means all its potential energy was converted to kinetic energy? Because that is just the laws of conservation of energy. Etc.
The freefall collapse of wtc7 is a verifiable fact. Freefall acceleration can be determined from certain givens, like the distance of the fall, and the time it took to fall. Many scientists have calculated building 7’s free-fall collapse, and the NIST went back and updated their ‘final report’ in order to match the science.
What is there to doubt Mike? You can watch the videos and time it yourself. For the pancake theory to work (which is physically impossible anyway) it would take at least 50 seconds. Next you would have to see pancaked floors which ofcourse doen’t exist because the entire buildings were turned to microdust. Next you would have to explain why there was no ground mediated seismic activity with any of the 3 tower demises. In fact, there was only surface seismic activity, consistent with reverberation caused by the building disappearing. For WTC 2 (110 story building), the degree of surface reverberation was similar to that of the Seattle Kingdome (20 story building) demolition earlier that year. And yes, for the Kingdome there was ground reverberation because that was an actual demolition where rubble crashed to the ground, not the dissipation of microdust as happened (and witnessed by everyone) on 911. These are facts, not opinions!
How irrational does one need to be to believe what? That the govt uses 911 as a pretext to kick muslim ass? They surely do! It’s irrational to believe they don’t.
But I think you are getting at someone else… did some person in our government orchestrate the attack or let it happen?
It seems like there are a few people in the govt that are deliberately hiding facts and preventing an accurate investigation. The NIST report and the 911 commission report, which basically make up the official government story, are full of holes and misleading information. So, it is rational to believe that someone is covering up facts. Is it rational to believe that the government orchestrated this attack? Not really – they have used it as a false pretext for the war in Iraq, but there is really no physical evidence that shows anyone in the government having orchestrated the attacks. There is some suspicion, but there’s little evidence to study. From studying the evidence, though, it is clear that the buildings were heated well beyond the burning point of jet fuel or aluminum. the USGS website even indicates temperatures over 1300 degrees in the rubble, several days after the collapse. It is also clear that the govt has denied reports of extreme temperatures, even though other govt agencies have verified them. In short, there is no doubt that a misinformation campaign is at work in our govt. Why? I dont know.
“From studying the evidence, though, it is clear that the buildings were
heated well beyond the burning point of jet fuel or aluminum. the USGS
website even indicates temperatures over 1300 degrees in the rubble”
That is after the collapse. The studies that NIST performed on the building steel samples did not show exposure to temperatures over 250 C (480 F).
I have seen the videos, timed them myself, and read and heard many reports of the buildings collapsing. Due to the huge amount of dust, it seems really hard to get an accurate timing on the fall of the Twin Towers. Somewhere between 8 and 14 seconds of fall time, it seems. Perhaps studying the seismic activity and video of the fall in sync could provide the best estimate of time.
Yes, the rubble was over 1300 degrees after the collapse. I believe there is a USGS thermal imaging report that shows this days after the disaster. I am no architectural physicist, but it seems to me that after a few days, the pile of steel and cement would be cooler in temperature, and not hotter. There are probably a lot of variables, including what kind of fuel was available in the rubble. Generally, rubble fires burn much cooler than an aerated fire above ground. It’s just one more suspicious piece of evidence that was never explained in a satisfactory way.
I have worked in laboratories, and I do know what actual academically-accepted scientific explanations, discussions, and debates should entail; lots of specific data, room for variable, and having all sides of the matter addressed. I don’t see it in our governments reports. Our mainstream media is much worse.
Mike, while I understand your sentiment it does not change the FACTS. I wouldn’t want to be told my parents were serial killers, but once they start digging the dead bodies from the backyard and start pulling the snuff videos off their hard drives, I would have to accept the reality. As you yourself admit you are “no authority on the events of 9/11” I suggest you take the time to research the multitude of NON-AMATEURS analyses that are freely available on the web. Or you can start reading some books to see how things in this world really work. You can start with “The Devil’s Chessboard” by David Talbot. It is about the Dulles brothers. You should also familiarize yourself with Operation Northwoods.
It’s called “compartmentalization”. ;)
“Since the buildings came down uniformly into their footprints, and did so in approximately 10 seconds”
Wrong and wrong. Your pseudoscience is as pathetic as the Twoof movement as a whole.
Thus, we will continue to mock you.
Rejecting an entire well supported argument based on a single minor and irrelevant error constitutes the hasty generalization fallacy. Making minor errors is not pseudo-science. Pseudo-science involves things like supporting the purely faith-based official story of how the Twin Towers fell. Pseudo-science depends on blind belief and fallacy not evidence.
“Rejecting an entire well supported argument”
No one outside of the Twoofer community supports any of the Twoofer claims of CD, thermite, laser beams from satellites in space or mini nukes, so don’t let your delusions of grandeur fool you any further.
“based on a single minor and irrelevant error”
Two errors, actually. And they were fundamental to the collapses, you know, speed of the collapses and debris aftermath. Those are important points.
“generalization fallacy”
I only picked that one because I didn’t want to flat out embarrass the Twoof seekers too much.
“Making minor errors is not pseudo-science. Pseudo-science involves things like supporting the purely faith-based official story of how the Twin Towers fell.”
It may not be 100%, but the NIST report is accurate enough in a general sense, albeit there are some minor errors, a few of which this article does cover. Nobody is perfect, except you of course. But minor errors are NOT pseudoscience, as you have well informed me.
“Pseudo-science depends on blind belief and fallacy not evidence.”
Exactly!
Claiming an argument is false because few people believe it is the appeal to the masses logical fallacy.
The exact speed of collapse is minor and irrelevant. The highly relevant fact is that they came down very quickly. Historically such rapid collapses have always involved controlled demolition.
I don’t regard the footprint reference as an error. For controlled demolitions falling into the footprint merely means it came straight down and didn’t tip over like a natural collapse. All CDs have debris that falls outside the foundation.
Like all pathological skeptics you spew fallacies, ignore the main points and attack trivialities.
“Claiming an argument is false because few people believe it is the appeal to the masses logical fallacy.”
You claimed it was a “well supported argument” and you were told that is wrong. Nothing to do with the falsity of the argument itself.
“The exact speed of collapse is minor and irrelevant. The highly relevant fact is that they came down very quickly. Historically such rapid collapses have always involved controlled demolition.”
So you’re arguing there must be a precedence for the event of 9/11 to have occurred without the assistance from CD’s?
“I don’t regard the footprint reference as an error. For controlled demolitions falling into the footprint merely means it came straight down and didn’t tip over like a natural collapse. All CDs have debris that falls outside the foundation.”
The original argument stated a footprint sized debris field, this is laughable to those who simply look at the debris field for a few seconds.
“Like all pathological skeptics you spew fallacies, ignore the main points and attack trivialities.”
Pathological? Nice Ad hominem there Michael. I guess you find evidence and facts as trivial too. Well, they’re not trivial. And this article is only good for a laugh or two.
Saying an argument is not well supported is not the same as demonstrating so. You haven’t done the latter.
The best you seem able to do is argue with yourself, creating strawman to beat down that the debris wasn’t piled nicely within the area where the foundation of the buildings were, which, of course, isn’t something claimed in the article.
“Saying an argument is not well supported is not the same as demonstrating so. You haven’t done the latter.”
I could say the EXACT same thing about this “article”.
“The best you seem able to do is argue with yourself, creating strawman to beat down that the debris wasn’t piled nicely within the area where the foundation of the buildings were, which, of course, isn’t something claimed in the article.”
Oh it isn’t? What about this: “Since the buildings came down uniformly into their footprints”.
nobody cares whether somebody as useless as yourself laughs. ad hominem, you’re a useless pile of shit.
Stating that nobody who accepts the official government hypothesis of the collapses supports the opposing hypothesis is obviously meaningless, and hardly an argument for the official hypothesis, many of the fundamental problems with which Mr. Ryan addresses above.
“government hypothesis”
You misspelled “facts”, how embarrassing for you.
I didn’t realize that it was a “fact” that the laws of physics were suspended on 9/11. Thanks for enlightening me.
“the laws of physics were suspended on 9/11”
Now your stupidity is showing. Nice Twooferism, pal.
You mean the stupidity of the official hypothesis. It’s not *my* claim, .e.g., that office fires caused a 47-story steel-framed skyscraper to collapse completely and symmetrically into its own footprint with sudden onset of free-fall acceleration.
If you have an argument, make it. Engaging solely in ad hominem argumentation is a violation of the terms of use of this site with regard to commenting policy.
” You mean the stupidity of the official hypothesis. It’s not *my* claim, .e.g., that office fires caused a 47-story steel-framed skyscraper to collapse completely and symmetrically into its own footprint with sudden onset of free-fall acceleration.”
Blah blah blah, more Twoofer crap.
9/11 was not an inside job, bro. This is not up for debate or discussion
Actually it has been subject to debate and discussion for twelve years now, and will continue to be until believable answers regarding the implosions of all three towers are forthcoming.
9/11 was not an inside job, bro. This is not up for debate or discussion.
The conclusion that it must have been an “inside job” if WTC 7’s collapse was due to controlled demolition is your own. Nobody else has made that assertion here.
If that is the conclusion you draw from the fact, say, that the free-fall collapse of WTC 7 means that all its potential energy was converted into kinetic energy, which means there was no energy available to do the work of buckling the columns as required by NIST’s fire-induced collapse hypothesis, then so be it.
“free-fall”
You’re wrong again.
9/11 was not an inside job, and the official narrative is correct. This is not up for debate or discussion.
Argument from ignorance is a logical fallacy. It is not controversial that WTC 7 collapsed at free fall for 2.25 seconds over 100 feet. NIST admitted this in its final report. Again, if you think this leads inevitably to the conclusion that 9/11 was an “inside job”, that is your conclusion. Nobody else here has claimed that.
Also, you are on notice that repeatedly copying and pasting an irrelevant comment that doesn’t address any point in the article or other comments you are replying to violates the terms of use of this site. If you do it again, you will be banned for trolling.
yes, dummy. the NIST had to go back and release a new “2007 update of the final report of the wtc disaster” after they were proven wrong in the public forum. they added the “freefall speed” of the wtc collapse on page 44-45 of the undated version in the wtc7 section. google it and read it, you might see what a load of bullshit is the whole report . their report is a wimpy attempt to remain unquestioningly loyal to queen bush.
Yes, Billy, you’re absolutely correct. Thanks for this comment. Please refrain from calling people “dummy” and such, though.
You just called NIST’s fire-induced collapse hypothesis “Twoofer crap”. LOL!
Willful ignorance is bliss, eh?
yeah, it is a debate and a discussion. the majority of americans think the govt’s story is false. twoofers point out 3 facts, none of which can be defeated in a debate: 1) numerous reports of molten steel. 2) the presence of recently melted steel in the debris, and the evidence of thermite. 3) the symmetrical freefall speed of wtc7’s collapse. it is an ongoing debate – if you wish to be a part of the wimpy loyalists who cowardly hump the leg of the authorities and their official buisiness, thats your business. if you wish to participate in the debate, try telling us some information that is based on observable evidence and is relevant to one of these claims.
” If once (the people) become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become WOLVES. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exception ” .
[Thomas Jefferson]
It was PREMEDITATED MASS MURDER ?!
They say the most effective way to create an illusion is misdirection.
To remind the liars on here & the U.S criminal gov’t that 9/11 was a set up would be like preaching to the converted.
To remind the gov’t that building 7 that wasn’t hit by anything & somehow the BBC reported its collapse 20 minutes ahead of time, to remind the gov’t that the other four buildings that weren’t hit by anything also collapsed, to remind the gov’t that one can go to youtube & see the charges go off before building 7 crumbled like a sand castle controlled demolition style at free fall speed just after the charges went off. To remind the gov’t of that would be the equivalent of saying that either the BBC developed the art of foretelling the future or building 7 defied gravity & fell twice LoL. To conclude that since building 7 was wired the six other buildings that collapsed were wired also, to remind the gov’t that the twin towers disintegrated into dust (as if steel turns to dust when it heats up LoL. See frozen still photos of twin towers during disintegration), to remind the gov’t that hundreds of cars were found singed a half a mile away from WTC that day for no apparent reason, among other things, other things like say: ” OPERATION NORTHWOODS ” would be a waste of time!!!
On youtube:
“4409 (New footage) watch tower 7 reduced to rubble ”
” New 2011 9/11 Watch Steele Columns Vaporize in World Trade Center”
Google:
* Whatever Happened to April
Glespie? – Third World Traveler …
April Glespie was the U.S Ambassador to Iraq 1990-1991 & was the one who tricked Saddam into going into Iraq after he had repeated requested permission to annex Kuwait back to Iraq the way it used to be before the British divided it up after WWI.
She said to him in no uncertain terms that the U.S had no problem with it whatsoever
It’s all in the transcripts go ahead & read it people.
Google:
* Sibel Edmonds – SourceWatch.
Sibel Edmonds is married to a high ranking Officer in the U.S Defense Department/Pentagon. But that’s not all she is; she was also the FBI translator who translated the tapes that gave irrefutable evidence that the twin towers were going to be hit I think it was three months before it happened & went to her bosses at the Federal Bureau they told her not to worry about it & forget it. But when she persisted they let her go.When the towers were hit & when Condoleezza Rise came out & said we (the U.S gov) had no prior knowledge Sibel Edmonds confronted her in public.Sibel Edmonds decided to sue the gov. for conspiracy to commit mass murder & mass murder, the supreme court of Kangaroos issued two gagging orders on her. The only reason she’s still alive is because of her husband high status at the Pentagon. Unlike the other key witnesses in the video clip below:
On youtube:
“ Mysterious Deaths of 9/11 Witnesses (MUST SEE) “
“ The Death of Controlled Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko after Speaking “
Google:
* Danny Jowenko is Dead, 3 Days After Sabrosky … – Daily Paul
Danny Jowenko is a Dutch demolition expert who confirmed in no uncertain terms that Building 7 was an expert team’s job, & who died in a mysterious one car crash after his comments.
Google:
* Gulf of Tonkin Resolution – Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia
The reason the U.S went to war in Vietnam was the false flag operation & false claim that the Vietnamese had sunk one of its naval ships.
Which never happened of course.
Google
* The USS Liberty Cover-Up – WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History …
The Israeli criminals deliberately targeted the U.S.S Liberty in the Mediterranean & killed 34 U.S sailors & wounded 170 by first targeting the ships communication capabilities to prevent the attack from being reported.
Luckily one of the officers managed to improvise & send a Morse code message to the U.S 6th Naval Fleet stationed in the Mediterranean & fighter jets were immediately dispatched. But guess what Lindon B Johnson immediately called them off & ordered the jets return to their aircraft carriers LoL
To try to drag the U.S to war with Egypt in 1967.
Google:
* The Lavon Affair – Middle East: MidEastWeb
Mossad attempts to blow up a British & U.S officers club in Cairo to try to blame it on the Muslim brotherhood to drag the U.S to war with Egypt.
Google:
* Isser Harrel former Mossad chief predicted, in 1979, with precision that terrorism would hit New York in 20 years time in the form of attacks on the tall buildings.
“…In December 2009, Press Pakalert (Pak Alert) published a paper that offered many facts pointing to Israel’s involvement in planning and facilitating the Twin Towers “terrorist attack”. This paper mentioned that former Mossad chief Esser Harrel (1952 to 1963), told Michael Evans as early as 1979 detailed plans to how the Twin Towers will be destroyed. Esser said that Twin Towers represented the phallic symbols of the USA and thus will be targeted to humiliate the male ruthless image of the USA . Evan was having dinner with Harrel and Roven Hecht, first secretary to Israel ’s Menahim Began PM…”
On youtube:
“ Israel did 9/11 – All the Proof in the World “
(Israel minister Ehud Barak conveniently at the BBC urging the World to wage war against Islam & Muslims right after the attacks).
On youtube:
” Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11 “
Here the felon slips up in the 1:44 second & says “ we were meant to document the event”. That’s the event that hadn’t happened yet.
Local police tests of the van the Israelis were using tested positive for explosives but somehow & miraculously when the FBI chimed in the tests came back negative!!!
& quickly ushered them out of the country under the bogus excuse that their visas had expired.
* First Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion declared in 1948:
“ The current map of Palestine is a British mandate; but we, (Zionist) Jews, young & old must strive to fulfil a map that extends from the Nile to the Euphrates”.
That’s the Euphrates river in Iraq for those of you whose sense of Geography sucks.
& that is what the two blue stripes on the Israeli flag represent. As for the star it represents Mecca & Medina in present day Saudi as told to me by many Zionist pigs. They want it they said to me in very clear terms believe it or not LoL.
See the fake/ distorted verse in [GENESIS:15:18]
That’s right, the U.S & its allies went into Iraq to try to draw a new map for peaceful little Zion, among other reasons. The same reasons the Israelis carried the attack on the U.S.S Liberty in 1967 & before that attempted to U.S & British Officers club in Cairo in 1954 code named Operation Susannah or the came to be known as the “ Lavon Affair “.
But who did anything about that, then, or did anything about the 9/11 scam now right?!
I mean who cares?!
Everyone keeps saying the same old thing: it’s way above my pay grade!!!
Well of course it is they made sure everyone is compartmentalized to ensure legal barriers are placed between you & going after the elite who commit these types of atrocities.
Google:
* search resultsCIA fly opium out of Afghanistan on USAF cargo planes!
I personally discussed the matter with a British soldier, somewhere in the U.S, who was on leave from Afghanistan who said to me in no uncertain terms that the high ranking generals of the British Armed forces & MI6 were flying military cargo planes (Hercules) loaded with tons of Opium into unknown destinations out of Afghanistan weekly while the common soldier was putting in blood sweat & tears for a cause that remains unknown.92% of the world Opium comes from Afghanistan.The Afghans don’t have trains & planes, & country is landlocked. How else is 92% of the world’s Opium leaving Afghanistan ???!!!
That’s right folks, via the business partnership venture of Air America & Air Britanica!
On youtube:
“ Mike Ruppert – CIA and Drug Running (1997) “
“ From the Wilderness – The CIA Connection.flv “Play (Show link)
Onyoutube:
“ Alex Jones PROOF! Boston Marathon Bombing is Staged Terror Attack “
Now we have U.S special forces on the ground around the finish line of the Boston Marathon conducting a mock operation of, get this people, of bombs going off during the Marathon .
So let’s assume that they messed up & the bombs actually went off accidently so they had to find a scapegoat so that they come out looking like idiots or murderers.
Assuming that was the case, why would they use live bombs that if they accidently go off could hurt a lot of people. Now would anyone use live bombs for that odd & ill timed (or was it ill timed) training???!!!
They then show us videos of the two alleged suspects & brothers walking around with small light coloured backpacks.
While the U.S gov’t affirmed & confirmed that bombs were placed in black duffle bags or backpacks.
Black duffle bags or backpacks like say the ones the U.S special forces carrying that mock training exercise (during a marathon for God’s sake LoL) had.
Questions:
– How come they never showed us videos of the brothers with the black bags?
– How come they never showed us videos of the brothers putting those bags in place.
– How come they never showed us videos of the alleged car chase, the fire fight, the brother tossing another improvised devised out the car window at the police car, the older brother coming out of the stolen vehicle guns blazing wearing a suicide vest…etc according to the police version of the events.
Now we all know that the U.S police cars are equipped with cameras on dashboards for evidence!
So where are those videos?! At a Hollywood studio in the making?!
* Same thing happened in Jully 2005 in London when MI5 was again supposedly conducting a mock operation/training exercise of an attack on London transport (buses & trains) the same day the attacks took place too.
The name of the operation was: “OSIRIS “ as in the ancient Egyptian God of the death.
Google:
* OPERATION NORTHWOODS
You’re going to love this; in 1962 the U.S joints chiefs of staff at the Pentagon presented former (assassinated) President John F. Kennedy a plan that involved blowing up two U.S airliners full with passengers (among others things) to blame it on Castro & have a reason to invade Cuba.
It’s been declassified & is available for everyone to see.
Google:
* ” TWA 800 – What Really Happened ”
(We don’t really know why that jet was downed (whether it was a C. up or not) but what we do know for a fact, according the NTSB official on the ground, who realized that there were traces of U.S Navy missiles amidst the wreckage, was approached by an FBI agent & was told in no uncertain terms: “ You haven’t see what you saw “
& this further proves to what lengths the U.S gov’t is prepared to go to cover-up).
Google:
* ” The enigma of Israel embassy bombing, London 1994 – TERROR … ”
(Here we’re told the cameras weren’t working, the guy manning the cameras was off sick, the log pertaining to who was on duty & who pulled them out of their post just before the detonation, that log conveniently disappeared LoL.
Then to top it all off the London Met Police allows the IsraHelli officials to seal off the area & confiscate all the evidence (of their work LoL).
Google:
* ” Julia Davis”
Julia Davis was a U.S border Custom Protection Officer who witnessed the gov letting through without checks 23 possible terrorists, in her words not mine, from 23 Muslim countries. What does the gov’t do to intimidate those who dare expose future false flag operations?!
They send a special op teams in a black hawk chopper to her home launch 54 investigations against her among other things. It’s all in the titles below that you can Google:
” IRS Abuse of DHS Whistleblowers Even The Score For Failed … ”
” IRS and DHS Retaliate, Target Whistleblower Bank Accounts: Full … ”
* Read a book by Zbignew Brezezinski former national security Advisor under Jimmi Carter. “ The grand Chess board” for some of the reasons for invading Afghanistan .
Do you poeple still think or claim that the 9/11 events were the work of box cutter crew???!!!
Correct me if I’m wrong but this amounts to conspiracy to commit premeditated mass murder on both sides of the fence, premeditated mass murder on both sides of the fence, treason, perjury, perverting the course of justice, destruction of property… the list can be over two inches thick.
I wonder if there are gutsy righteous lawyers out rhere to take the U.S, IsraHelli, & British gov’ts to the international crime court & do all those who perished in N.Y & in Iraq & Afghanistan & Pakistan & in Yemen some form of justice???!!!
“Let us never tolerate conspircy theories” George W. Bush said in the first week of the event.
Now we know why he said that don’t we?!
” Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear “.
[Thomas Jefferson]
Travellerrr, please keep your comments brief and to the point.
I wonder if people who never comment are reading this. I wonder how many of them are capable of understanding high school physics. The main point I see is that it’s 135,000 kwh to pulverize the concrete and wall board to make the dust found on the ground and 1,000,000 kwh to inflate the dust and gas cloud afterward. mg of the building is 110,000 kwh. Even if you count the time of the collapse incorrectly as the doofuses regularly do, it doesn’t matter. There’s over a million kwh missing in the official stories of burning fire retardant carpet to melt steel and pulverize concrete.
the are not errors – they are true. both towers fell in approximately 10 seconds. The highest estimates say 16 to 17 seconds, and the lowest say 7-8. If you watch the videos and time the collapse, it looks like 10 seconds, maybe 13 for the first one, but it is hard to believe, after repeatedly timing it, that the buildings fell in more than 15 seconds. approximately 10 seconds. the scientists at columbia and 911 research say it is impossible to determine the exact time it took for each fall, given the huge cloud of dust. but if you look at the video and time it, it looks like 10 seconds. it is not blind belief – it is roughly measured science. an approximation. As for the footprints, its the same thing. watch the video. for at the first half of the collapse, the tops of the buildings fall straight down, with none of the 100 foot steel columns left standing to lean the collapse to one side or the other. the tops of the buildings fall straight down. sure, in the mushroom cloud of debris and dust, shit went flying everywhere. still, they fell pretty much in their footprints, both of them. so, even if these approximations could be “wrong”, the degree of error is relative and small.
you’re such a moron
Everything that happens with an underground subsurface mininuke happened there. From 1400 persons vaporized, to radiation cancers, ground floor waving, firestorm, blastwave, EMP events……
If that is wrong, explain why. The buildings did come down uniformly, more or less into their footprints, all three of them. The towers were mostly obscured by black smoke (an indicator of how cold the fire burned), but building 7 was obviously a controlled demolition, which takes weeks or months to rig. If you watch video of the twin towers collapsing, you see the top of the north tower begin to roll off the side of the tower a second or two in to the collapse. Rather than continuing to roll off when it encountered the full structural integrity of the floors not affected by heat, the detached top section fell straight down, through a matrix of overly engineered steel and takes out the rest of the building at over 80% of freefall speed.
If you really understand the science behind this or think you do, search for “David Chandler freefall”. He will either convince you that the NIST report is a fraud or he will convince us that you do not understand physics.
actually, right and right. not wrong and wrong. if you watch the video, and time it, buildings 1 and two fell at about 9 and 12 seconds, respectively. however, if you go by the “researchers” at columbia, or 911 research, they estimate closer to 15 seconds, although they say that with the amount of dust and unclear video footage, it is impossible to determine the exact and total time of the collapse. From the videos though, its hard to believe that either building took more than 15 seconds to collapse. Also – from the video, you can see the top section of each building falling straight down – it’s easy to see. So, while both of the statements are approximations which can’t be proven – the common videos support the author’s claim, not yours. So, you mock yourself, fool.
:)
Hasbara?
There
is one assumption here that remains unaddressed, which is that the
building materials actually used were up to the standards required by
the engineers. For example, was the steel used the same as was
specified? We’ll never know since it was removed and “recycled” before
it could be investigated.
It
is my understanding that the Port Authority (representing both New York
and New Jersey), which was responsible for the WTC’s construction was
exempt from the usual building permit/inspection process (not to mention
that graft and corruption are not unknown here either).
Perhaps
the real reason that the building collapsed as it did was that it was
poorly constructed (not as designed) to withstand such catastrophic
damage.
hey if 9/11 wasn’t an inside job then why is it that the US has invaded basically the HOLE MIDDLE EAST!!! didn’t George bushes father speak about the new world order on national tv and talk about the new world order on sept 11 1991 now think about this! the US’s next target is Syria… if they hit that target! Russia jumps in to DEFEND SYRIA! now think about this! its the Start of WW3 then after the victory is declare they will talk about HOW ALL NATIONS MUSH unite in the NAME OF FREEDOM!, freedom steals when you speak about freedom! why do you think George bush said they were JEALOUS OF ARE FREEDOM!, Declaring a war in the NAME OF FREEDOM! THEN TURNS AROUND AND STEALS ALL YOUR FREEDOMS IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM!! DRIVE UP THE WORLD DEBT SO HIGH THE HOLE SYSTEM OF THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO GO CRUMBLE! WAR WILL HAPPEN AND THEN YOU WILL SEE S*IT HAPPEN WHEN THE FLOW OF MONEY HAS STOPS once that happens the world will need a new system not one with money but digial currency! then you will see! the moment people are marked! by RFID then you will see the New World Order! because the day that happens know that one person at the VERY TOP controls everything
9/11 was a inside job and america will soon be without boarders…
you have a point; i mean, maybe the workers decided to pocket some extra money and leave out 1/2 the bolts. ha ha, who knows. but, the NIST is pretty obviously distorting and hiding info. They had to go back and change their “final report” in 2007 after ridicule from people who did the math and proved them wrong about wtc7’s collapse, the freefall speed of which they tried to deny for several years prior. they also denied any report of molten steel at ground zero, although there were obviuosly tons of reports. if you youtube nist denies molten steel, you can see how funny it is, when even giuliani himself reports 2000 degree heat. firefighters talk about rivers of lava, the wtc cross was forged from heat, and construction workers reported pulling steel beams from the rubble that burst into flames when they hit the air, because their temperature suddenly went up from 1800 to 2500 degrees when oxygen hit them. All the reports are on video and verifiable, and the govt denies that any reports even exist. so, although there may have been flaws in the construction, none were revealed (except for claims that the sprinklers didnt work – which is relevant). the nist report, which you can also read in its entirity online, seems to be deliberately misleading, though. but whats more obvious is their attempts to cover up facts or go back and change their story.
The Towers did not merely ‘fall’ or ‘collapse.’ They were destroyed through the path of maximal resistance in about 15 seconds. The crazy government conspiracy theorists don’t like the word destroyed because total energy – energy consumed on the way down = energy left for acceleration.
It’s also quite obvious the weight is unloading disproving NIST’s ‘pile-driver’ theory.
Yeah of course the cameras must be playing tricks on us.
Or perhaps it is our eyes that have been tricks on us LoL.
What an G.D moron !
On youtube:
” New 2011 9/11 Watch Steel Columns Vaporize in World Trade Center ”
Go ahead & watch those towers turn do dust & tell us one more time that we’re all too f. stupid & that those towers weren’t turning to dust no they were collapsing.
At the 40th second watch the remaining pointy steele column disappear like a sand stick & tell me one more time that column collapsed & did not turn to dust on camera.
I’d take caution in the manner if which you will reply & what you say because anything you say can & will be held against you in a court of law I’ll see to it.
I’ll hold you to it.
You have now been advised.
So help me God I’ll bring the full weight of the law on you & all those on here who act as the gov’t mouth pieces.
You have no conception as to what we, the gov’t & Defense officials, who haven’t been bought, have in store for all those involved in the 9/11 premeditated mass murder on both sides of the fence & treason.
Consider this a notice.
P.S. If you think I’m here to entertain you f. felon, go ahead & tempt me & I’ll just migh track down your I.P address then send you an welcoming committee to escort you back to our offices here for a more private chit chat.
NIST does not have a pile driver theory or a pancake theory as these theories were abandoned because they could not be supported by high school level physics or simple observation. They only have a “collapse initiation sequence” theory then simply state that global failure was then assured. Ridiculous!
This is an interesting article. I am interested in reading your books. I find the most interesting details are those regarding the countless reports of molten steel. Was the WTC Cross forged from two steel i-beams that were subjected to intense heat? I saw a video with a guy who claimed it was heat that forged that cross, and when I look at the pictures there are no bolt-holes or construction brackets. It could be a good piece of evidence to study, and its right there at the 911 museum. Funny details about the computer mock-up; birdbrains love those kinds of cartoons. allegedly, the polls are starting to turn, though. 60% of americans doubt the offical story, and 46% think controlled demolition is likely, according to the polls.
Well it happened,Since that was the first time buildings fell down,there is a new Science that no one knows about or knew about But The Muslims ,Hell they can’t Explained how the Pyramids were built..
This is OPEN LETTER to U.S criminal gov’t
Again a big thank you for deleting this same post yesterday.
Way to show your spirit of democratic debate.
Way to show & exemplify your sickening idea of a democratic debate that comes in the form of agree with me or else LoL.
SHAME ON YOU !
” If once (the people) become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become WOLVES. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exception ” .
[Thomas Jefferson]
Don’t all those know the truth & failing to report the hard evidence as well as supporting evidence I’m posting below amounts to ACCESSORY TO PREMEDITATED MASS MURDER ?!
They say the most effective way to create an illusion is misdirection.
To remind the liars on here & the U.S criminal gov’t that 9/11 was a set up would be like preaching to the converted.
To remind you & the gov’t that building 7 that wasn’t hit by anything & somehow the BBC reported its collapse 20 minutes ahead of time, to remind the gov’t that the other four buildings that weren’t hit by anything also collapsed, to remind the gov’t that one can go to youtube & see the charges go off before building 7 crumbled like a sand castle controlled demolition style at free fall speed just after the charges went off. To remind the gov’t of that would be the equivalent of saying that either the BBC developed the art of foretelling the future or building 7 defied gravity & fell twice LoL. To conclude that since building 7 was wired the six other buildings that collapsed were wired also, to remind the gov’t that the twin towers disintegrated into dust (as if steel turns to dust when it heats up LoL. See frozen still photos of twin towers during disintegration), to remind the gov’t that hundreds of cars were found singed a half a mile away from WTC that day for no apparent reason, among other things, other things like say: ” OPERATION NORTHWOODS ” would be a waste of time!!!
On youtube:
“4409 (New footage) watch tower 7 reduced to rubble ”
” New 2011 9/11 Watch Steele Columns Vaporize in World Trade Center”
Google:
* Whatever Happened to April Glespie? – Third World Traveler …
April Glespie was the U.S Ambassador to Iraq 1990-1991 & was the one who tricked Saddam into going into Iraq after he had repeated requested permission to annex Kuwait back to Iraq the way it used to be before the British divided it up after WWI.
She said to him in no uncertain terms that the U.S had no problem with it whatsoever
It’s all in the transcripts go ahead & read it people.
Google:
* Sibel Edmonds – SourceWatch.
Sibel Edmonds is married to a high ranking Officer in the U.S Defense Department/Pentagon. But that’s not all she is; she was also the FBI translator who translated the tapes that gave irrefutable evidence that the twin towers were going to be hit I think it was three months before it happened & went to her bosses at the Federal Bureau they told her not to worry about it & forget it. But when she persisted they let her go.When the towers were hit & when Condoleezza Rise came out & said we (the U.S gov) had no prior knowledge Sibel Edmonds confronted her in public.Sibel Edmonds decided to sue the gov. for conspiracy to commit mass murder & mass murder, the supreme court of Kangaroos issued two gagging orders on her. The only reason she’s still alive is because of her husband high status at the Pentagon. Unlike the other key witnesses in the video clip below:
On youtube:
“ Mysterious Deaths of 9/11 Witnesses (MUST SEE) “
“ The Death of Controlled Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko after Speaking “
Google:
* Danny Jowenko is Dead, 3 Days After Sabrosky … – Daily Paul
Danny Jowenko is a Dutch demolition expert who confirmed in no uncertain terms that Building 7 was an expert team’s job, & who died in a mysterious one car crash after his comments.
Google:
* Gulf of Tonkin Resolution – Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia
The reason the U.S went to war in Vietnam was the false flag operation & false claim that the Vietnamese had sunk one of its naval ships.
Which never happened of course.
Google
* The USS Liberty Cover-Up – WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History …
The Israeli criminals deliberately targeted the U.S.S Liberty in the Mediterranean & killed 34 U.S sailors & wounded 170 by first targeting the ships communication capabilities to prevent the attack from being reported.
Luckily one of the officers managed to improvise & send a Morse code message to the U.S 6th Naval Fleet stationed in the Mediterranean & fighter jets were immediately dispatched. But guess what Lindon B Johnson immediately called them off & ordered the jets return to their aircraft carriers LoL
To try to drag the U.S to war with Egypt in 1967.
Google:
* The Lavon Affair – Middle East: MidEastWeb
Mossad attempts to blow up a British & U.S officers club in Cairo to try to blame it on the Muslim brotherhood to drag the U.S to war with Egypt.
Google:
* Isser Harrel former Mossad chief predicted, in 1979, with precision that terrorism would hit New York in 20 years time in the form of attacks on the tall buildings.
“…In December 2009, Press Pakalert (Pak Alert) published a paper that offered many facts pointing to Israel’s involvement in planning and facilitating the Twin Towers “terrorist attack”. This paper mentioned that former Mossad chief Esser Harrel (1952 to 1963), told Michael Evans as early as 1979 detailed plans to how the Twin Towers will be destroyed. Esser said that Twin Towers represented the phallic symbols of the USA and thus will be targeted to humiliate the male ruthless image of the USA . Evan was having dinner with Harrel and Roven Hecht, first secretary to Israel ’s Menahim Began PM…”
On youtube:
“ Israel did 9/11 – All the Proof in the World “
(Israel minister Ehud Barak conveniently at the BBC urging the World to wage war against Islam & Muslims right after the attacks).
On youtube:
” Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11 “
Here the felon slips up in the 1:44 second & says “ we were meant to document the event”. That’s the event that hadn’t happened yet.
Local police tests of the van the Israelis were using tested positive for explosives but somehow & miraculously when the FBI chimed in the tests came back negative!!!
& quickly ushered them out of the country under the bogus excuse that their visas had expired.
* First Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion declared in 1948:
“ The current map of Palestine is a British mandate; but we, (Zionist) Jews, young & old must strive to fulfil a map that extends from the Nile to the Euphrates”.
That’s the Euphrates river in Iraq for those of you whose sense of Geography sucks.
& that is what the two blue stripes on the Israeli flag represent. As for the star it represents Mecca & Medina in present day Saudi as told to me by many Zionist pigs. They want it they said to me in very clear terms believe it or not LoL.
See the fake/ distorted verse in [GENESIS:15:18]
That’s right, the U.S & its allies went into Iraq to try to draw a new map for peaceful little Zion, among other reasons. The same reasons the Israelis carried the attack on the U.S.S Liberty in 1967 & before that attempted to U.S & British Officers club in Cairo in 1954 code named Operation Susannah or the came to be known as the “ Lavon Affair “.
But who did anything about that, then, or did anything about the 9/11 scam now right?!
I mean who cares?!
Everyone keeps saying the same old thing: it’s way above my pay grade!!!
Well of course it is they made sure everyone is compartmentalized to ensure legal barriers are placed between you & going after the elite who commit these types of atrocities.
Google:
* search resultsCIA fly opium out of Afghanistan on USAF cargo planes!
I personally discussed the matter with a British soldier, somewhere in the U.S, who was on leave from Afghanistan who said to me in no uncertain terms that the high ranking generals of the British Armed forces & MI6 were flying military cargo planes (Hercules) loaded with tons of Opium into unknown destinations out of Afghanistan weekly while the common soldier was putting in blood sweat & tears for a cause that remains unknown.92% of the world Opium comes from Afghanistan.The Afghans don’t have trains & planes, & country is landlocked. How else is 92% of the world’s Opium leaving Afghanistan ???!!!
That’s right folks, via the business partnership venture of Air America & Air Britanica!
On youtube:
“ Mike Ruppert – CIA and Drug Running (1997) “
“ From the Wilderness – The CIA Connection.flv “Play (Show link)
Onyoutube:
“ Alex Jones PROOF! Boston Marathon Bombing is Staged Terror Attack “
Now we have U.S special forces on the ground around the finish line of the Boston Marathon conducting a mock operation of, get this people, of bombs going off during the Marathon .
So let’s assume that they messed up & the bombs actually went off accidently so they had to find a scapegoat so that they come out looking like idiots or murderers.
Assuming that was the case, why would they use live bombs that if they accidently go off could hurt a lot of people. Now would anyone use live bombs for that odd & ill timed (or was it ill timed) training???!!!
They then show us videos of the two alleged suspects & brothers walking around with small light coloured backpacks.
While the U.S gov’t affirmed & confirmed that bombs were placed in black duffle bags or backpacks.
Black duffle bags or backpacks like say the ones the U.S special forces carrying that mock training exercise (during a marathon for God’s sake LoL) had.
Questions:
– How come they never showed us videos of the brothers with the black bags?
– How come they never showed us videos of the brothers putting those bags in place.
– How come they never showed us videos of the alleged car chase, the fire fight, the brother tossing another improvised devised out the car window at the police car, the older brother coming out of the stolen vehicle guns blazing wearing a suicide vest…etc according to the police version of the events.
Now we all know that the U.S police cars are equipped with cameras on dashboards for evidence!
So where are those videos?! At a Hollywood studio in the making?!
* Same thing happened in Jully 2005 in London when MI5 was again supposedly conducting a mock operation/training exercise of an attack on London transport (buses & trains) the same day the attacks took place too.
The name of the operation was: “OSIRIS “ as in the ancient Egyptian God of the death.
Google:
* OPERATION NORTHWOODS
You’re going to love this; in 1962 the U.S joints chiefs of staff at the Pentagon presented former (assassinated) President John F. Kennedy a plan that involved blowing up two U.S airliners full with passengers (among others things) to blame it on Castro & have a reason to invade Cuba.
It’s been declassified & is available for everyone to see.
Google:
* ” TWA 800 – What Really Happened ”
(We don’t really know why that jet was downed (whether it was a C. up or not) but what we do know for a fact, according the NTSB official on the ground, who realized that there were traces of U.S Navy missiles amidst the wreckage, was approached by an FBI agent & was told in no uncertain terms: “ You haven’t see what you saw “
& this further proves to what lengths the U.S gov’t is prepared to go to cover-up).
Google:
* ” The enigma of Israel embassy bombing, London 1994 – TERROR … ”
(Here we’re told the cameras weren’t working, the guy manning the cameras was off sick, the log pertaining to who was on duty & who pulled them out of their post just before the detonation, that log conveniently disappeared LoL.
Then to top it all off the London Met Police allows the IsraHelli officials to seal off the area & confiscate all the evidence (of their work LoL).
Google:
* ” Julia Davis”
Julia Davis was a U.S border Custom Protection Officer who witnessed the gov letting through without checks 23 possible terrorists, in her words not mine, from 23 Muslim countries. What does the gov’t do to intimidate those who dare expose future false flag operations?!
They send a special op teams in a black hawk chopper to her home launch 54 investigations against her among other things. It’s all in the titles below that you can Google:
” IRS Abuse of DHS Whistleblowers Even The Score For Failed … ”
” IRS and DHS Retaliate, Target Whistleblower Bank Accounts: Full … ”
* Read a book by Zbignew Brezezinski former national security Advisor under Jimmi Carter. “ The grand Chess board” for some of the reasons for invading Afghanistan .
Do you poeple still think or claim that the 9/11 events were the work of box cutter crew???!!!
Correct me if I’m wrong but this amounts to conspiracy to commit premeditated mass murder on both sides of the fence, premeditated mass murder on both sides of the fence, treason, perjury, perverting the course of justice, destruction of property… the list can be over two inches thick.
I wonder if there are gutsy righteous lawyers out rhere to take the U.S, IsraHelli, & British gov’ts to the international crime court & do all those who perished in N.Y & in Iraq & Afghanistan & Pakistan & in Yemen some form of justice???!!!
“Let us never tolerate conspircy theories” George W. Bush said in the first week of the event.
Now we know why he said that don’t we?!
” Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear “.
[Thomas Jefferson]
The NIST went back and changed their “Final Report on the collapse of WTC7.” Initially, they published the report claiming that WTC7 did not fall at freefall acceleration, but after being challenged by physicists and presented with the evidence they revised and republished the so-called “final report” admitting that for at least part of it’s collapse, WTC7 was indeed moving at freefall acceleration.
At the end of the day, there are countless pieces of evidence that raise suspicions and warrant investigation about the 9/11 conspiracy and our government’s response to it. Many family members of the victims are dissatisfied with the explanations they’ve been given, and the situation reeks of foul play.
It saddens me that anger, fear, and ignorance prevent people from looking at the facts and discussing them on a point by point basis in terms. The situation should be looked at from all points of view. Each perspective should be considered closely. So-called facts should be examined.
It seems quite true that WTC7 fell at freefall acceleration, and that the NIST’s first report of the collapse was indeed false. This raises suspicions. I’ve observed reports from high-level physicists and architects (including the WTC architect) which dispute the claims of the NIST, but I’ve never observed a rational, thorough discussion and debate of the evidence that included scientists with conflicting points of view regarding their conclusions. The investigation seems to shut down with one-sided debates, and a government who is basically unwilling to participate in the discussion with integrity and consideration.
It true also that the neo-con manifesto “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” was published in 1999 and 2000, calling for “some catastrophic and catalyzing event…like a new Pearl Harbor” so that “Domestic politics and industry will shape the pace and content of transformation.” The transformation is outlined by the manifesto’s expressed goals, including: “to fight and decisively win simultaneous major theater wars.” After publishing the manifesto, 10 of the groups 25 members (PNAC) joined the GW Bush administration, and in less than a year they got the “new Pearl Harbor” they had asked for in their manifesto. As we assess the goals of PNAC as per their publications, it seems that they have been very successful in many of their goals, but not in gaining the decisive victories they were hoping to find in wars in the middle east. The PNAC manifestos warrant a deep and thorough investigation of the 9/11 disaster and PNAC’s response to it, in terms of using it to achieve their agenda. It raises suspicions, which ought to be investigated.
When you add to the facts that the Bin Laden’s were flown out of the country and protected, that at least 2 major news networks announced WTC7’s collapse before it actually happened, that the government obviously used the attack to further all kinds of unrelated agendas, including a poorly thought-war in Iraq based on false rumors of WMD’s, it seems that many corporations involved with PNAC and multi-bllion dollar war contracting had a very vested interest and profits to gain from the “catastrophic and catalyzing event” that 9/11 was.
It’s possible that it’s all a bunch of terribly handled coincidences that has left the situation with a terrible investigation, explanation, and a political climate that thrives on misinformation and fear. However, I think the probability that facts were deliberately hidden or lied about is likely, due to the many people who had explicitly sought to benefit the goals of their agenda through means of violence and warfare, and who had expressed their desires as such. It is stupidty, stubbornness, and willful ignorance to purport that questioning our government and investigating the long line of misinformation surrounding the 9/11 disaster is somehow unpatriotic and insane. No, it is the sane and just thing to do, and it is truly terrifying that our nation has watched disaster after disaster and war after war, only to find out that the so-called facts and reasoning behind these disasters (i.e. JFK, Bobby Kennedy, Vietnam, 9-11, Iraq) is based on misinformation, mishandled evidence, on in some cases (i.e. Gulf of Tonkin) complete fabrications of the truth.
Of the 503 responders interviewed most stated explosions before the collapses. Problem is, most videos have been muted or frames cut out of them.
“Who Watches The Watchmen?”
(or Who Ganders At Gatekeepers)
Who better to guard the truth than those who concocted the fantasy in the first place?
Ever consider the concept that the online shilling gatekeepers are they themselves journalists?
Ever wonder why “Fakelogists” “Hoaxbusters”, “Leading Internet Skeptics”, “Miles Mathis Followers”, “Piece of Mindful Types”, “Clues Forum Members”, “Flat Earthers” and so many other online “truthers” act so outlandishly ridiculous and promote ideas that are demonstrably preposterous?
Ever wonder why they are so obsessed with emulating the practices of the mainstream media they tend to claim to despise?
Ever wonder why they all go on each others “shows” and interview each other in an endless cycle?
Why do they all discredit themselves with obviously absurd “research” when there are glaring incontrovertible problems with many official mainstream narratives that can be effectively and simply communicated to a general audience without resort to obviously divisive (and/or insane sounding) language?
One logical deduction would be that these folk are they themselves journalists or work in the news media in some capacity.
Of course another possibility could be that these folk are suffering from apophenia.
“The CIA and the Media: 50 Facts the World Needs to Know”
“This article by Professor James Tracy first published in August 2015 is of particular relevance in relation to the “fake news” campaign directed against the alternative and independent media. In a bitter irony, the media coverup of the CIA’s covert support to Al Qaeda and the ISIS is instrumented by the CIA which also oversees the mainstream media. Since the end of World War Two the Central Intelligence Agency has been a major force in US and foreign news media, exerting considerable influence over what the public sees, hears and reads on a regular basis. CIA publicists and journalists alike will assert they have few, if any, relationships, yet the seldom acknowledged history of their intimate collaboration indicates a far different story–indeed, one that media historians are reluctant to examine.”
source: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cia-and-the-media-50-facts-the-world-needs-to-know/5471956
Some Advice Regarding Online “Gatekeeping” And Conspiracy Theories:
“In the mid 1980’s I was asked by an american legal institution known as the Christic Legal Institute to compile a comic book that would detail the murky history of the C.I.A., from the end of the second world war, to the present day. Covering such things as the heroin smuggling during the Vietnam war, the cocaine smuggling during the war in Central America, the Kennedy assassination and other highlights. “
“What I learned during the frankly horrifying research that I had to slog through in order to accomplish this, was that yes, there is a conspiracy, in fact there are a great number of conspiracies that are all tripping each other up. And all of those conspiracies are run by paranoid fantasists, and ham fisted clowns. If you are on a list targeted by the C.I.A., you really have nothing to worry about. If however you have a name similar to someone on a list targeted by the C.I.A., then you are dead? The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory. The truth is far more frightening. Nobody is in control. The world is rudderless…” ―Alan Moore
This is the most intelligent comment to date.