TRIPOLI — Libyan civilians have learned a thing or two from three decades of Lebanon’s experience with Israel’s five wars against that Levant country. Indeed NATO is using the same bombing, media, political and diplomatic strategy in Libya that Israel employed most recently in Lebanon during its 33 day July 2006 war.
This includes bombing of the Libyan civilian infrastructure in order to cripple normal life here and hopefully crush the growing national Resistance among Libyans to NATO’s 15,300 sorties to date, while teaching the people an overdue lesson for supporting the central government in the context of predictable “birth pangs of the new Libya.”
Libyan civilians have learned a thing or two from three decades of Lebanon’s experience with Israel’s five wars against that Levant country. Indeed NATO is using the same bombing, media, political and diplomatic strategy in Libya that Israel employed most recently in Lebanon during its 33 day July 2006 war.
This includes bombing of the Libyan civilian infrastructure in order to cripple normal life here and hopefully crush the growing national Resistance among Libyans to NATO’s 15,300 sorties to date, while teaching the people an overdue lesson for supporting the central government in the context of predictable “birth pangs of the new Libya.”
Even some of the by now familiar cast of characters is the same in Libya as in Lebanon including certain neocons at the State Department, National Security Agency, and Pentagon as well as Congressional war mongers like John McCain and one of John’s favorite drinking buddies, arch-Zionist John Bolton.
So it was no major surprise here in Tripoli when who appeared just next door across the Libyan border on July 17 but the region’s nemesis, US Undersecretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs and former US Ambassador to Lebanon, Jeffrey Feltman. Jeffrey is the successor to David Welch, as leader of the Saudi Prince Bander Bin Sultan financed Welch Club, and is well known for his past decade of labor, largely unsuccessful, of promoting US-Israeli projects in that politically fractured country.
While insisting that the US never interferes in the internal affairs or undermines the independence of countries in the region, Feltman’s claimed mission, as his spokesperson advised the media, was to tell Qaddafi “that he has no legitimacy and there is no future for Libya with him in power. He must go and he must leave immediately.”
Sources familiar with the Tunis meeting have revealed that Feltman, who apparently has the habit of showing visitors to his 4th floor suite of offices at Foggy Bottom in Washington, DC, a large wall map of the Middle East while pointing at it and explaining, “This is my jurisdiction,” arrived for quite another reason.
Rather than the one-off, “no future contacts” insistence of State Department spokespersons, Feltman did not travel all the way from Washington, D.C. just to repeat a one sentence message that has been given almost daily by NATO and its superiors to the effect that the Libyan leader needed “to retire.” Feltman came to open up a negotiations process at the behest of the White House and President Obama, who, as Congressional sources have been confirming, wants out of the Libyan fiasco, “like yesterday and, if necessary, NATO be damned.” At the Tunis meeting the Americans offered the Libyans safe passage anywhere for Colonel Qaddafi free from International Criminal Court arrest warrant concerns or any ICC proceeding at all. The Libyans were also told that Qaddafi could stay in Libya so long as NATO was convinced that he had indeed given up the reins of power.
According to a colorful Texan gambler in the oil business, currently biding his time in Tripoli and expressing solidarity with the Qaddafi regime, the Libyans rejected the American demands and “politely and diplomatically raised their middle finger” to “them Yankees” while expressing interest in full dialogue without any “preconditions” in order to end the crisis.
Feltman opened the meeting by doing what Lebanese and Syrian officials, familiar with his style, could have told their Libyan sisters and brothers he would do. Jeff began by threatening the Libyan officials and presenting an apocalyptic scenario of what might happen to Libya if Qaddafi refused to give up power. In words similar to those regularly brandied by Israeli officials to Lebanon and threatening another “Dahiyeh Doctrine”, the US official recited what he called “the new realities”.
Feltman did not have to elaborate on what the “Dahiyeh Doctrine” involved, or what it would mean for Libya, because the whole region knows it well. It was a massive frenzy of indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas in the south of Lebanon, the Bekaa Valley, and South Beirut, areas populated with Hezbollah supporters and it included the July-August 2006 leveling of 1,252 residential buildings employing massive Israeli carpet bombing with American weapons.
Feltman’s “new realities” included the unanimous decision of the July 15 Istanbul session of the Libya Contact Group that it was shifting diplomatic recognition to the so-called National Transition Council faction in this civil war and its freeing up of some of the $30 billion of Libyan money entrusted to US banks as a result of the 2003-4 US-Libya “welcome back to the international community” process. Also included is the fact that the European Union has just called for all countries to aggressively pursue the issuance of the dubious arrest warrants issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) last month, as well as intensified NATO bombing and accelerated efforts to encourage defections from Tripoli to the increasingly NATO directed “eastern rebels.”
According to knowledgeable sources, Jeffrey was not interested in even discussing the growing reluctance of five security council members—Russia, China, India, Brazil, and Germany—all of whom abstained on UNSCR 1973 and represent an absolute majority of the world’s population, as well as the African Union and Arab League, which are also urging a ceasefire and negotiations.
Presumably Undersecretary Feltman has seen the recently released NATO bombing assessment complied by the Libyan General Communication Authority, which does not include the post publication date July 17 bombing of the Civilian Air Traffic Control system at the Tripoli Airport, which both IATA and US Senate Armed Services Committee specialists agree are not legitimate military targets because “they are of no practical military value.”
The LGCA Damage Assessment Report, now made public, presents a current survey of NATO bomb damage resulting from the targeting of the infrastructure in various regions of Libya. According to the report, the main civilian Libyan telecommunications companies severely damaged include LITC, Aljeel Aladed, Almadar Aljaded, Hatel Libya, Libya Telecom & Technology (LTT), and Libyana Mobile Phones (Libyana).
Among the planned benefit to NATO from bombing the civilian infrastructure, according to the LGCA report, is that NATO countries plan to secure lucrative contracts currently estimated at more than two billion Libyan Dinars, to rebuild Libya’s infrastructure. In addition, according to the LGCA report, “These (NATO) countries will eventually gain a lot of benefits such as getting rid of a major part of its old arsenal and will create better chances for weapons manufactures in the West to produce newer weapons” ( Page 2).
The Libyan government report admits that NATO bombing of its civilian communication services, “has led to freezing in delivering services in various areas: medical, education, security and other IT services. Moreover, maintenance operations are some defected places become hard to conduct and reach. It has also become difficult for employees to communicate and conduct their jobs effectively.” (Page 3).
A sampling of public services currently affected to various degrees by NATO’s continuing attacks on Libya’s civilian telecommunication network includes, internet capacities for local internet providers, roaming links for mobile operators, TV broadcasting, voice call, SMS, GPRS, international telephone calling, microwave systems, optical and submarine cables, satellites communication, fixed lines services, and VSAT services.
Civilian telecommunication services that have been cut range from company to company with repairs being attempted by all. For example, Almadar Aljadid reports than 60% of its voice calls, SMS and international calling and Roaming has been corrupted. LITC is still trying to repair was one company official refers to as “its terrestrial cable with Egypt.”
NATO bombing has disconnected areas ranging from Natol near the Tunisian-Libyan border all along the Mediterranean seaboard to the West and down south beyond Sabha and Alkufra. Every one of these NATO attacks on civilian communications is illegal under the provisions of the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) Convention and a myriad of international legal standards. Each NATO attack on Libyan civilian infrastructure is also illegal under American law, including, but not limited to, the 1976 US Arms Export Control Act, which strictly prohibits the transfer of American weapons to any country or entity (exception: Israel) for use against civilians and requires the cutting off of arms and other foreign aid to violators, including NATO.
NATO’s bombing of civilian targets across Libya also violates the 1961 US Foreign Assistance Act which prohibits US supplied weapons being used against civilians.
At a meeting last night with six graduate students in English from Al Fateh and Al Nassar Universities, it was explained by the scintillating 21 year old “Amani” (“wishes”) , who just started a job with the Libyan Sports Channel, that she really misses the Internet (also cut by her government for “security reasons”) due to not being able to chat with Facebook friends. However, Amani’s mobile phone, even with limited range, still works okay in certain areas and the government has cut the per minute cost in half from .015 Libyan Dinars to .007 LD per minute (about 4 cents). Surely, the cheapest in the World! According to the students, the cut was made so that families can keep in close contact “during our crisis”. Amani and her friends explained that they also receive free medical and dental care and full college tuition that costs just 15 Libyan Dinars per semester or about $ 8 every four months. I asked each of the students what they each paid per semester out of pocket for books and school supplies and the average was approximately $20 per semester.
According to Amani and her student friends, these are factors that partially explain the results of public opinion polls among the young that are showing public support ratings in Western Libya for the Libyan leader in the 85% to 90% range. The high ratings reflect less near unanimous support for Colonel Qaddafi, one suspects, and the students agree, than a quality of this country’s tribal people that once under attack from NATO, the population, in the West at least, is rallying around its government. Still the Libyan leaders positive support ratings appear more than twice the 42% Time-CNN polls this past weekend for President Obama or his allies in the UK, France and Italy.
Jeffrey Feltman might want to visit some of Libya’s universities, including Al Fatah, which was bombed by NATO on June 17, as students were inside classrooms sitting for their final exams. He will find a growing culture of resistance to NATO bombing their families but also support for a ceasefire and dialogue to end this ill-conceived criminal enterprise.
Jeffrey Feltman seems to be be a very nice man!! Not someone you’d like to meet in a lonely place on a dark night.
But maybe he has had his day. For it seems a new era has arrived with the principle staring us in the face that in war there are winners and losers and there is an awful lot at stake in libya.
If NATO loses in Libya then Libya and those who rely on the rule of law are going to be the winners.
But if the NATO wins and the US, France and Britain are allowed to steal Libyan resources with impunity then the losers will be all those who rely on the rule of law for their survival. So there is an awful lot at stake especially for those who would have the most to lose in a chaotic world. The horn of Africa should serve as a reminder.
{But if the NATO wins and the US, France and Britain are allowed to steal Libyan resources with impunity then the losers will be all those who rely on the rule of law for their survival.}
WHY DO PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT THE IMPOSTER ERDUGON AND ROLE OF TURKEY IN LIBYA?
PLEASE MAKE A NOTE OF IT. TURKEY IS A TROJAN HORSE OF US IMPERIALISM/ZIONISM IN THE REGION. TURKEY IS PLAYING THE SAME ROLE IN SYRIA.
DOWN WITH TURKEY
Thankyou for bringing this to our attention and of course you are right.
In time the world will know what is really going on in Libya and many nations will purge their leadership.
Turkey have sided with The Great Satan for many years gaining kick backs from it (USA) which come essentially from the blood of the innocent which the USA have murdered.
Stephen Olof Wikblom…..Sheep Shearer….Australia
Feltman’s past and present speaks for itself. He belongs to brigades of hoodlum employed by the US government, and who are having a certain sociopathic traits. Richard Holbrooke was one of them “peacemaker” in Balkan. Or another Richard, Armitage, who was in charge for Pakistan and Afghanistan during the time of invasion of Afganistan.
There could be American Citizens living in that pretend Democracy America, and they might ask their Politicians on how to get the American Politicians to admit that most of them are corrupt, deviant, bribed, and blackmailed.
We all know that there are American Politicians who have been Secretly Filmed in Acts of Bestiality and Paedophilia to gain Campaign Finance from American Plutocrats and Banksters.
I have though of a suggestion, but it will take firstly Decency, which most of the American People have lost long ago; it will take Courage; which most of the American People have lost long ago, and it will take Intelligence which most of the American People have lost long ago.
Yes, America the Home of the Brave and the Free was a long time ago.
If enough American People which to restore their Republic, then they must do the following, although it will ensure that A Military Dictatorship is Established in America before the next Federal Election.
We know that there is a mix of good and bad Politicians in America, and the good ones will agree to save the America Republic, but the bad ones have only ever wanted to destroy the America Republic.
Every American Politician Must be pronounced by All American Citizens as being a Secret Paedophiles, Secret Polygamists, and Secret Bribe Takers, even though not all of them are this.
They Must All go on Global Television and Declare this to the World, and they will be given Amnesty for this, even though some are innocent, or not as Guilty as the Rest.
All of those American Politicians that Confess will be forgiven, even though many of them will be innocent to begin with.
This exercise is to do the DUTY of the American Politicians which is to Educate the Stupid American Citizens, before it is too late, and the American Politicians have to start Murdering the American People.
The current Corrupt and Incompetent Mafia Mob are going to wreck America, where they will no longer have a choice other than to start Murdering the American People.
For those who are Stupid, they should be Told that most People who become Politicians in America are GREEDY, yes, for Money, but also for Life, and money goes to Politicians before it goes to the Retarded Ignorant Complacent Voter Scum they are supposed to look after.
This is the way it is with Money, but this principle of lack of principle Applies Much More with who will live in America because the Evil Banksters have deliberately engineered Poverty in America and the rest of the World.
After that, 50% of the current American Politicians will never be allowed to seek Public Office again at any Election by Law, and there is to be 100% Public Funding for all Elections, and this will be done by Public Lottery.
I want to say that I know next to nothing about Economics, Banking, and Finance, but I can give some Advice to America, and they are Platitudes.
Do the Right Thing and Pursue Proper Economic and Proper Financial Policies, regardless of the fact that America has its first President who is African, and possibly even American.
I do not know what the Proper Economic and Financial Policies are, but America spends Billions of Dollars on Occupying other Countries, and they can afford to pay their Impartial Experts to tell them, but it is the Unelected Plutocrats and Banksters that decide Economic, Banking, and Financial Policy.
Lyndon Larouche wrote at his two Websites, http://www.larouchepac.com/, and http://www.larouchepub.com/, that Barack Obama is a Puppet of the British Empire, and Lyndon Larouche is Loyal and Patriotic American Citizen.
This could be why Obama took away the figure of Winston Churchill in the White House, because the Cunning English wanted to make it look like Obama is not an English Puppet.
The American Plutocrats and Banksters want to destroy America, and they are doing it slowly and surely, and if the America People realize what is happening, then they will set up a Military Dictatorship in America.
The America People in their Tens of Millions must, every Monday in groups of over one hundred say the following.
Every American Politician is a Bribed Puppet of the Plutocrats and Banksters, and they have been Secretly Filmed in Acts of Bestiality and Paedophilia to ensure they betray the American People.
The American Politicians should respond with Confessing to these things, and they will receive their Amnesty.
Even though I remain moderately sceptical that there will be another American Federal Election, I want to say that I am not against Americans having another Federal Election.
The regrettable and terrible massacre that recently took place in Norway is said to have been done by a Right Winger and a Fundamentalist Christian.
The Dark and Lunatic Left Corrupt and Bribed Media wants to have guilt by association, and they want to day the Right Wing Policies are Dangerous to Society, when the truth of the matter is that Right Wing Policies are what built up Norway more than any Policies of the Dark and Lunatic Left.
The accused Person may claim to be a right winger, but he could be a plant and False Flag Operation by the Extreme Dark and Lunatic Left to set up a Military Dictatorship in Norway, and other Countries.
It was written by the Corrupt and Bribed Media that the accused Person is a Fundamentalist Christian, but they should know that a Christian would not do that, and for all we really know, he could be a Secret Muslim trying the Albanian Trick on Norway.
Those who have Experience rather than Intelligence know that many times, things are not what they appear to be at first glance.
We see that there is a desire by the Left to want to make Right Wing views Illegal, or to make certain People’s beliefs Illegal, and yet call Norway a Democracy.
Perhaps the accused was caught in an Acts of Paedophilia, and was given an offer to cover it up by committing these crimes that were sponsored by Anglo-America.
Perhaps Anglo-America set the Paedophile trap and lured the accused to commit Acts of Paedophilia in order to be used how Anglo-America wanted in order to Conquer Europe.
Perhaps it all started seemingly innocent enough with a Secret Harem that was provided to the accused by Anglo-America, or an Islamist Group.
Perhaps Anglo-America or an Islamist Group set the Paedophile trap and lured the accused to commit Acts of Paedophilia in order to be used how Anglo-America or the Islamist Group.
The accused is alleged to have Committed a Criminal Offence, and if he is found guilty, then he will be a Convicted Criminal.
This is how he should be described as an Alleged Criminal, and not as a Right Winger.
The Norwegian People should continue to have Right Wing Views and Vote for Right Wing Parties if they wish, but they should not deliberately kill People, or engage in Terrorism.
The Norwegian People should continue to have any beliefs they know to be true, or they can believe in the lies of evolution if they wish to, but they should not deliberately kill People, or engage in Terrorism.
We see condemnation for the rightful recent Norwegian massacre by so called Democratic European Governments, but these Democracies are silent over the fact that the Norwegian pretend Democratic Government is Hypocritically and Immorally committing Genocide in Libya.
Furthermore, these European fake Democracies are Slanderously accusing Libya’s Leader of not loving and caring for his People, yet in comparison to the set up of the Innocent Libyan People by the Nazi Dictators of Europe he is a Benevolent and Merciful Leader.
I had one what can be called one of my Dyslexic moments, and I find that writing one line paragraphs helps me find my errors more easily in order to correct them.
I wrote: We see condemnation for the rightful recent Norwegian massacre by so called Democratic European Governments, but these Democracies are silent over the fact that the Norwegian pretend Democratic Government is Hypocritically and Immorally committing Genocide in Libya.
It Really Want To Write: We see the rightful condemnation for recent Norwegian massacre by so called Democratic European Governments, but these Democracies are silent over the fact that the Norwegian pretend Democratic Government is Hypocritically and Immorally committing Genocide in Libya.
This comment provides new thoughts, even though it uses some of the thoughts of my other comments.
For the sake of those who Flaunt their Ignorance, or for the sake of those who might be deceived by the Cunning Comment Writers with Secret Agendas, we should know that Muslims come in every Nationality.
It is Very Interesting how the Accuse person did not bomb a Community Centre of the Muslims, but rather the Norwegian Parliament where the Dark and Lunatic Left Government has a majority in the Parliament.
If the Alleged Perpetrator’s problem was really with Non-White Muslims and not with White Christians, then why go after those who are definitely White Norwegians, who are more likely to be Christians.
If the Alleged Perpetrator wanted to help the Left in his Country, then he would target the Left Wing Government, because the Dictatorial Left would gain sympathy and they could demonize the Right.
We know that Hitler burned Germany’s Parliament, and wrongly blamed it on an Innocent person in order to seize Power.
The Norwegian People just do not want to believe that there are Politicians in Norway who would kill even their own People to keep power, or for a Secret Agenda, and because of this a Military Dictatorship can easily come to Norway.
The Dictatorial Dark and Lunatic Left Norwegian Government is Slanderously accusing Libya’s Leader of not loving and caring for his People, yet in COMPARISON to the American led NATO Nazis.
These American led NATO Nazis set up of the Innocent Libyan People for Physical, Economic, and Cultural Genocide with the help the Nazi Dictators of Europe, he is a Benevolent and Merciful Leader, in COMPARISON to them.
We know that the Rulers of Countries regrettable have to punish the Evildoers, a few Rulers had to suppress uprisings, because their Country would disintegrate otherwise.
President George Bush Senior did not want to remove the brutal Saddam Hussein, because he knew that Iraq needed a brutal Dictator, but his Idiot son President George Bush Junior, thought he knew better that his father who was at one time the chief of the Central Intelligence Agency.
These American led NATO Nazis set up of the Innocent Serbian People decades ago, and till this day they are performing with impunity for Physical, Economic, and Cultural Genocide against the Innocent Serbian People.
A few days ago, someone said on another Website that it is enough to read my comments to understand why other nationalities in former Yugoslavia could not live in the same Country with Serbs, and why they ran out of Yugoslavia as soon as they could, for some reason the Serbs were the only ones to want Yugoslavia.
I think that those for are Honest and who know History know why certain Nationalities could not live in the same Country of Yugoslavia, and why they wanted their own Country As Soon As They Could.
There Could be Certain Non-Serbian Races who can only live in a Mono Ethnic Society, but they cannot admit to that Publicly, but only Secretly In their Minds and Very Discreetly and Secretly and Subliminally with their own Race, and so they must blame the ones they schemed against.
There could be Many Non-Serbian People who know the Real Reason WHY the Serbs were the only ones to want Yugoslavia, and even the Dull Thinkers will start to brush away some of the Cobwebs of the Malicious Lies and Slander that have been heaped upon the Innocent Serbian People.
There is a Saying that the Self Proclaimed Very Democratic Non-Serbs may have heard, and it is: I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
The Facts are that I wrote My Comments after Yugoslavia was broken up, and so my Comments, Which Are Democratic Opinions WHICH ARE DEMOCRATIC OPINIONS In A Wonderful Democratic Europe For Which Many Claim To Want, could Not possibly be the reason for other Races to want their own Mono Ethnic Societies, and for centuries at that.
I now realize that because of this comment, someone might say that they just have found proof that no one can live with Serbs in the same Country.
There are some Political Parties that want to join the European Union, but I think they should just default on all IMF and World Bank Loans, and forget the European Union.
The relationship between Belgrade and Pristina is of key importance and that we will not be able to close the negotiations without solving this issue.
The problem here is that is not a relationship between the Serbs and the Albanians, because America and the Nazis of Europe have stuck their noses in other People’s Business.
It is really a relationship between Serbia, America , and the Nazis of Europe, and the Albanians will continue to do as their Puppet Masters and their own Criminal Instinct order and drive them.
Serbia should Demand that the SAA Agreement be Fully Implemented, and that all Countries of the World revoke their support for the Pristina Al-Qaeda, or Serbia will default on All IMF and World Bank Loans.
Serbia should begin a campaign to Educate all Europeans of what the Albanians are, and encourage them to Perform the Fullness of the Economic Genocide on the Albanian People Worldwide, unless the Kosovo Albanians accept Autonomy with Serbia as their Country.
We will see if the European Union will receive an Award for at least keeping its word once every Decade.
This will be shown by the European Union Fully Implementing the SAA Agreement with Serbia that has already been Negotiated and signed between Serbia and the European Union.
No offense but he did not do a very good job in Lebanon. It is Israel that has got Hizbullah by the balls not him.
I realized that I wrote someone as how I think that some but not all American Politicians Arrogantly view voters, and I did not mean to refer to All voters of Any Political Party as Scum, but I was talking as if I were one of the Arrogant, Corrupt, and Bribed Puppet American Politicians.
I wrote: For those who are Stupid, they should be Told that most People who become Politicians in America are GREEDY, yes, for Money, but also for Life, and money goes to Politicians before it goes to the Retarded Ignorant Complacent Voter Scum they are supposed to look after.
I should not have used the word Scum, even though there must be some Voters who break the Law and Avoid paying their Fair Share of Taxes to the Government.
Furthermore I should not have used the word Retarded or Stupid, but I do not have a problem with the words Gullible, Ignorant, and Complacent, and I Humbly and Sincerely Apologize for any offence it may have produced, because of my failure to clarify the context of that sentence.
The current Corrupt and Incompetent Mafia Mob are going to wreck America, where they will no longer have a choice other than to start Murdering the American People.
For those who are Gullible, they should be Told that most People who become Politicians in America are GREEDY, yes, for Money, but also for Life, and that money goes to Politicians before it goes to the Ignorant and Complacent Voters they are supposed to look after.
This is the way it is with Money, but this principle or lack of principle Applies Much More with who will live in America because the Evil Banksters have deliberately engineered Poverty in America and the rest of the World.
I found the following on the Internet, and you can find the Website, to look at the rest of it as only the text can be given in this comment.
I have not been able to research any of this, and so I do not have an opinion, but if it is true, then the Main Stream Media will cover it up.
We in the West, most times think of wars as happening between nations, but we should not forget that those who scheme wars have schemed and planned Civil Wars that are based on lies, just like they have done in Libya.
Tampering with Facebook Page of Norwegian Terrorist
Innocent people, many of who are children, have been slaughtered at the hands of a madman in Norway, and what does the American Pravda do? Why, they rush into agenda mode. Let’s blame these atrocities on Christians and other conservatives. That way when conservatives target Islamic extremism, they can throw “Christian extremism” in our faces. These people behind these attempts are vile and so godless that they are unaware that Christians don’t call for the deaths of innocents; that is the tactic of Muslims, who later boast about their acts of horror. The Bible teaches us to value our lives and the lives of others.
Surely, Sarah Palin had something to do with this horrific attack. You can’t have violence without input from Sarah, now can you? Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer and Atlas Shrug’s Pamela Geller have both been accused of inciting violence toward Muslims when they have done nothing more than expose the truth about Islam. Never have they called for violence against Muslims. Even Glenn Beck’s name has been associated with this crime.
Norway and the rest of Europe want nothing to do with Christianity. I would guess that Europe is the most spiritually dark continent on the face of the earth. Sure sounds like a hit job on Christianity to me. It’s also interesting that this tragedy took place in the most anti-Semitic country in Europe.
What’s especially suspicious is that two Facebook pages of the Norway terrorist have surfaced, one in Norwegian and one in English. Check this out, via Atlas Shrugs:
Who Added “Christian” and “Conservative” to Norway Shooter’s Facebook Page Yesterday?
“While the leftist and Islamic supremacist ghouls rush to portray Norway mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik as a Christian and even as an anti-jihadist, the unanswered questions multiply. Why did a jihad group take credit for the atrocities, and then retract? And who altered the murderer’s Facebook page? Yesterday, at the time that his name was released, his Facebook page looked like this (hat tip Vivien for the screenshots):
But shortly thereafter, this screenshot started circulating, of an altered Facebook page on which Breivik identified himself as a Christian and a conservative: (screenshot hat tip Vivien)
Did he have two different Facebook pages, one in Norwegian and one in English, and he only identified himself as a Christian and a conservative on the English one? Or did he pause from his murder spree to add ‘Christian’ and ‘conservative’ to his Facebook profile? Or maybe the whole page is a fake, as has been reported here.
But in the case, who faked it, and why? Who is so anxious to portray Breivik as a Christian and conservative? And if this was faked, can we trust any of the material that is now being released about Breivik being anti-jihad?
UPDATE: Craig confirms:
‘I have confirmed the Google cache on Jul 22, 2011 23:52:36 GMT of the Facebook profile page supports the theory of the adding of Christian/Conservative (see below).
Our PDF printout from the Facebook profile was done Jul 23 01:39 GMT, and the profile was deleted soon afterwards by Facebook, so how was a detained Anders Behring Breivik able to change it?
My money is on DHS asking Facebook for a favor….'”
It is interesting that an American Website that that says it believes in free speech does not like the last two comments that I have written.
What this means is if they do not like it, then it could be that the American Government does not like, because the comments just disappear every time I refresh the Antiwar Webpage.
Logic told me if they do not like it, then that is why I published it here, and it will be interesting to see if they remove my many comments at http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/07/23/nyt-iran-scare-piece-just-lies-innuendo/#idc-container and other comment sections that are exact copies of the comments I published here.
I will try with a more Diplomatic version of those comments, and I will provide, I will try to publish them at http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/07/25/influencing-breivek-is-the-blame-game-out-of-bounds/#idc-container and http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/07/24/oh-about-that-other-thing-i-said-friday/#idc-container.
The Alleged Manifesto of the Person Accused for the recent massacre in Norway can be categorized in a few ways.
I am making certain points on how to approach it without having read any of the Manifesto that is Alleged to be written by Accused Person.
Firstly, the Person Accused may or may not have written all or some of it, even if he does claim this or even if he denies writing any of or some of it.
They may or may not be his views, even if he did or did not write any or all of it, and because they are the opinions of a Human, then there is bound to be things that Law Abiding Citizens will agree on and Disagree on.
If the Accused Person, or even Hitler wrote that Norwegians should have at least three good meals a day, and they should work if possible, then every Norwegian would agree with that.
If he said that Norwegians should not smoke cigarettes, take illegal drugs, waste money on irresponsible gambling; then many Norwegians would agree with that.
I think the Left are going to try to pick whatever they do not like in this Manifesto, and then they will say that People should cease to Vote for Right Wing Policies, because if they do, then it is not Politically Correct, and they are Terrorist sympathizers.
The Left will try to add another aspect of Political Correctness, and brainwash the Western World that if they think like they used to, then they Terrorist sympathizers.
The interesting thing about all of this is the Left may try to do this, even though there is much speculation, that the entire profiling could be all based on lies.
Many Norwegians were told that if they criticized or even questioned their Countries Immigration Policy, then they were labelled as Racist, and the Left’s Political Correctness may have been the cause the recent massacre because of the pent up frustration of ordinary Norwegians to have their opinions without been labelled Racist.
I think that Total Racial Segregation in the Balkans and in Europe is based on not wanting a Civil War, and if the only way to prevent a Civil War is to have Total Racial Segregation, then that is not being Racist, but just commonsense.
If we look at the Albanians of Kosovo, or any Country other than Albanian, their Loyalties lie only with Albania, and other Albanians.
The Serbian Government did not commit Genocide on the Albanians, but the Albanians have never wanted to Loyal to any Country other than Albania.
If Norway went to war with another Country, on whose side would their Immigrants really be if the other Country made the Immigrants a better offer?
There are People, who want to persevere their own unique Culture, and it has nothing to do with hatred of others who are different, and a Proper Democracy would let the People debate what type of Society they want for their Country.
I tried to publish even the more Diplomatic Versions of the Comments but every time refresh the page to see if the sent comment will be published, it just vanishes.
I am sure that Antiwar.com has been infiltrated by a few Secret CIA Agents long ago, even most of the Writers are genuine.
I do like reading the Articles on that Website, and even America Censors some comments, that would work against their Interests, just like the Old Soviet Union did, because they also suffer from Protecting their Own Interests and Human Nature.
I should provide the more Diplomatic version of those comments so that People can see that there were written, and perhaps they may want to publish the more Diplomatic comments at the Antiwar.com Website.
I should not have used the word Scum in one of my comments, even though there must be some Voters who break the Law and Avoid paying their Fair Share of Taxes to the Government.
Furthermore I should not have used the word Retarded or Stupid, but I do not have a problem with the words Gullible, Ignorant, and Complacent, and I Humbly and Sincerely Apologize for any offence it may have produced, because of my failure to clarify the context of that sentence.
I wrote: For those who are Stupid, they should be Told that most People who become Politicians in America are GREEDY, yes, for Money, but also for Life, and money goes to Politicians before it goes to the Retarded Ignorant Complacent Voter Scum they are supposed to look after.
I should have Written: For those who are Gullible, they should be Told that most People who become Politicians in America are GREEDY, yes, for Money, but also for Life, and that money goes to Politicians before it goes to the Ignorant and Complacent Voters they are supposed to look after.
I found the following on the Internet, and you can find the Website, to look at the rest of it as only the text can be given in this comment.
I have not been able to research any of this, and so I do not have an opinion, but if it is true, then the Main Stream Media will cover it up.
Tampering with Facebook Page of Norwegian Terrorist
Innocent people, many of who are children, have been slaughtered at the hands of a madman in Norway, and what does the American Pravda do? Why, they rush into agenda mode. Let’s blame these atrocities on Christians and other conservatives. That way when conservatives target Islamic extremism, they can throw “Christian extremism” in our faces. These people behind these attempts are vile and so godless that they are unaware that Christians don’t call for the deaths of innocents; that is the tactic of Muslims, who later boast about their acts of horror. The Bible teaches us to value our lives and the lives of others.
Surely, Sarah Palin had something to do with this horrific attack. You can’t have violence without input from Sarah, now can you? Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer and Atlas Shrug’s Pamela Geller have both been accused of inciting violence toward Muslims when they have done nothing more than expose the truth about Islam. Never have they called for violence against Muslims. Even Glenn Beck’s name has been associated with this crime.
Norway and the rest of Europe want nothing to do with Christianity. I would guess that Europe is the most spiritually dark continent on the face of the earth. Sure sounds like a hit job on Christianity to me. It’s also interesting that this tragedy took place in the most anti-Semitic country in Europe.
What’s especially suspicious is that two Facebook pages of the Norway terrorist have surfaced, one in Norwegian and one in English. Check this out, via Atlas Shrugs:
Who Added “Christian” and “Conservative” to Norway Shooter’s Facebook Page Yesterday?
“While the leftist and Islamic supremacist ghouls rush to portray Norway mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik as a Christian and even as an anti-jihadist, the unanswered questions multiply. Why did a jihad group take credit for the atrocities, and then retract? And who altered the murderer’s Facebook page? Yesterday, at the time that his name was released, his Facebook page looked like this (hat tip Vivien for the screenshots):
But shortly thereafter, this screenshot started circulating, of an altered Facebook page on which Breivik identified himself as a Christian and a conservative: (screenshot hat tip Vivien)
Did he have two different Facebook pages, one in Norwegian and one in English, and he only identified himself as a Christian and a conservative on the English one? Or did he pause from his murder spree to add ‘Christian’ and ‘conservative’ to his Facebook profile? Or maybe the whole page is a fake, as has been reported here.
But in the case, who faked it, and why? Who is so anxious to portray Breivik as a Christian and conservative? And if this was faked, can we trust any of the material that is now being released about Breivik being anti-jihad?
UPDATE: Craig confirms:
‘I have confirmed the Google cache on Jul 22, 2011 23:52:36 GMT of the Facebook profile page supports the theory of the adding of Christian/Conservative (see below).
Our PDF printout from the Facebook profile was done Jul 23 01:39 GMT, and the profile was deleted soon afterwards by Facebook, so how was a detained Anders Behring Breivik able to change it?
My money is on DHS asking Facebook for a favor….'”
According to the Manifesto of the Person Accused of the recent Norway massacre, it appears that questions wee asked to him and he gave a reply.
What we should understand, is that a good liar will always mix a few lies in amongst many truths, because he wants his lies to be believed by the Gullible.
If the Accused Person did actually write that Manifesto that is attributed to him, then it may have been changed by the CIA since he wrote it, but as it stands one part is definitely incorrect, and be could be a NATO stooge.
Supposed Question to the Accused: What tipped the scales for you? What single event made you decide you wanted to continue planning and moving on with the assault?
Supposed Answer by the Accused: For me, personally, it was my government’s involvement in the attacks on Serbia (NATO bombings in 1999) several years back. It was completely unacceptable how the US and Western European regimes bombed our Serbian brothers. All they wanted was to drive Islam out by deporting the Albanian Muslims back to Albania. When the Albanians refused, they really didn’t have any choice but to use military force. By disallowing the Serbians the right for self-determination over their sovereign territory they indirectly dug a grave for Europe. A future where several Mini-Pakistan’s would eventually will be created in every Western European capital. This is unacceptable, completely unacceptable.
The Truth of the matter is that Albanian Leaders of the Balkans have for centuries Craved, Schemed, and attempted to steal other People’s Land to make a Greater Albanian.
The Albanians went Public with this Conspiracy in 1878, with their League of Prizren Declaration, that can be researched.
The Albanians tried to create a Greater Albania in the Second World War and the Albanians were Hitler’s Allies in the Second World War, because Hitler promised them a Greater Albania if they would serve the Nazi cause, which was extremely easy for Albanians, as it is for Croats.
The SS Albanian Nazi Skanderbeg was created following the Nazi invasion of Kingdom of Yugoslavia in 1941. Throughout 1942 and 1943 both the Wehrmacht and SS sought to utilise local manpower to maintain law and order, and fight off Yugoslav Partisan Resistance activity in the region. In 1943 a number of Albanians from Kosovo and the Sandžak region were recruited into the Handschar Division. They were teamed up into Battalion I/2 (later I/28) and received first rate training in Neuhammer, Germany. This was perhaps the best trained and equipped Nazi Albanian military formation during the war but, ironically, it was transferred directly from combat in Bosnia to Kosovo via rail on 17 April 1944 following the creation of Skanderbeg. In February 1944 the decision was taken, following the modest success of the Handschar Division in Bosnia, to raise a parallel unit inside Albania. Xhafer Deva, an Albanian from Kosovo and periodically the Interior Minister under the Nazi puppet regime, helped with recruitment. Hitler promised the Albanians that the territories with a majority Albanian population were to become an independent and unified state to include Albania, Kosovo and Western Macedonia, or what is sometimes called Greater Albania, or Ethnic Albania.
Anglo-America saw an opportunity to use the Albanians to further their Dictatorship of Europe, and they have done this with the much of Europe with the Immigration Policy of their Puppet European Politicians.
The Anglo-American Wars against the Serbian People were based on lies, and their is Subliminal Way to tell Europe that America is a danger to Continental Europe, and that America needs to be in its own Country, and this as Diplomatic a Way to say it.
What this does is makes Europe dependant on Anglo-America Mafia Protection Racket, while slowly but surely destroying Continental Europe.
Russia has a proposal for a new European Security Agreement the Kremlin says should replace outdated institutions such as NATO and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, but Anglo-America wants to implement their Mafia Protection Racket for Europe.
The Video Titled: Stolen Kosovo (English Subtitles) can be found on the Internet at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HPJVv89F2g unless the CIA changes the location and contents of that Video to try to discredit the Facts.
I realized that I forgot to mention that the Albanians of Kosovo temporarily left Kosovo, not because Slobodan Milosevic gave orders to drive the Kosovo Albanians away, but because NATO was deliberately bombing the Albanians to drive them away from Kosovo.
Many Kosovo Albanians went to Serbia where they found refuge during the war and were unharmed, but the others were ordered to go to Albania by the Criminal Kosovo Albanian Leadership who murdered Albanians who would not obey.
This is because the Criminal American led NATO needed some manufactured evidence for the Crime against the Peace, and for the Slander against Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbian People.
The Anglo-American Wars against the Serbian People were based on lies, and their is no Subliminal Way to tell Europe that America is a danger to Continental Europe, and that America should leave Serbia Completely and Permanently as the beginning of leaving Continental Europe.
America needs to be in its own Country, and this as Diplomatic a Way of saying it as I can think of.
The Person Accused of the recent massacre in Norway could have destroyed the Council Office at night when there was no one there, and then he could have claimed responsibility and give his Webpage to Advertise his cause.
If the Accused had not committed violence to People, then he could have remained free, and would have been better respected, but he could be a Secret CIA NATO stooge.
Many Norwegians were told that if they criticized or even questioned their Countries Immigration Policy, then they were labelled as Racist, and the Left’s Political Correctness may have been a contributing cause to the recent massacre in Norway because of the pent up frustration of ordinary Norwegians to be able to have their opinions without been labelled Racist.
I think that Total Racial Segregation in the Balkans and in Europe is based on not wanting a Civil War, and if the only way to prevent a Civil War is to have Total Racial Segregation, then that is not being Racist, but just commonsense.
It is in fact loving towards the Racists to have a chance to think some human thoughts, and it is loving toward the Race that are victims.
If we look at the Albanians of Kosovo, or any Balkan Country where they are other than Albania, we can see that their Loyalties are only with other Albanians, and only towards a Greater Albania, or Ethnic Albania.
The Serbian Government did not commit Genocide on the Albanians, but the Albanians have never wanted to Loyal to any Country other than Greater Albania.
If Norway went to war with another Country, on whose side would their Immigrants really be, if the other Country made the Immigrants a better offer, just like the Americans made to the Albanians?
There are People, who want to persevere their own unique Culture, and it has nothing to do with hatred of others who are different, and a Proper Democracy would allow their People to debate what type of Society they want for their Country.
We know that England, France, and America will always find Puppets that will betray their own People and who are willing to be Filmed in Acts of Bestiality and Paedophilia in order to become Rich Puppets of England, France, and America.
The American led European Union and the American led NATO have Slandered and Tricked their way to committing Genocide on Libya and the Libyan People.
I should have mentioned that the reference to the SS Albanian Nazi Skanderbeg I used the Western Puppet Wikipedia as a Reference, and that they were not my words.
Wikipedia says: The SS Albanian Nazi Skanderbeg was created following the Nazi invasion of Kingdom of Yugoslavia in 1941. Throughout 1942 and 1943 both the Wehrmacht and SS sought to utilise local manpower to maintain law and order, and fight off Yugoslav Partisan Resistance activity in the region. In 1943 a number of Albanians from Kosovo and the Sandžak region were recruited into the Handschar Division. They were teamed up into Battalion I/2 (later I/28) and received first rate training in Neuhammer, Germany. This was perhaps the best trained and equipped Nazi Albanian military formation during the war but, ironically, it was transferred directly from combat in Bosnia to Kosovo via rail on 17 April 1944 following the creation of Skanderbeg. In February 1944 the decision was taken, following the modest success of the Handschar Division in Bosnia, to raise a parallel unit inside Albania. Xhafer Deva, an Albanian from Kosovo and periodically the Interior Minister under the Nazi puppet regime, helped with recruitment. Hitler promised the Albanians that the territories with a majority Albanian population were to become an independent and unified state to include Albania, Kosovo and Western Macedonia, or what is sometimes called Greater Albania, or Ethnic Albania.
Kosovo documentary – It began with a lie (1/5) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU48zVL23QE&feature=related and Kosovo documentary – It began with a lie (2/5) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCGYX6KG_C4&feature=related and Kosovo documentary – It began with a lie (3/5) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9bz1lJte6Y&feature=related and Kosovo documentary – It began with a lie (4/5) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB1vO7bWO_M&feature=related and Kosovo documentary – It began with a lie (5/5) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysaf3rogBR0&feature=related .
This comment clarifies an ambiguus statement that I made, and it is a matter that should be debated in a Professional and Educated Manner.
This is because, whether we like it, or whether we do not like it, Racism is a Fact of life, definitely more so in the Balkans.
I think that Total Racial Segregation in the Balkans and in Europe is based on not wanting a Civil War, and if the only way to prevent a Civil War is to have Total Racial Segregation of Albanians and Non-Albanians, then Perhaps that is just commonsense.
It could be argued that this it is Loving and Merciful towards the Racist Albanians to give them Mono-Ethnicity, because this gives the Racist Albanians an opportunity to think some human thoughts for a change, rather than just Animal Terrorist Racist Thoughts.
This is because they only see their own race, and it is loving Protect the Race that are victims of the Animal Terrorist Racist Albanians.
If we look at the Albanians of Kosovo, or any Balkan Country where Albanians live, we can see that their Loyalties are only with other Albanians, and only towards a Greater Albania, or Ethnic Albania.
If Norway went to war with another Country, on whose side would their Immigrants really be on, if the other Country made the Immigrants a better offer, just like the Americans made to the Kosovo Albanians?
There seem to be one or two factual errors in Mr. Lamb’s analysis. I am aware of the fact that Arab forces originating from Lebanon’s side of the border entered Israeli territory in 1948, only to be driven out again. The wars in 1982 and 2006 were regrettable. However, the 1982 war was a result of Lebanon being a failed state and not having control over its own territory. In 2006, a rogue army attacked Israel again, kidnapping two of its soldiers (who died while being held hostage). That makes three wars, not the five that Mr. Lamb claims. Then again, perhaps he is just trying to please his current hosts.
Another observation is also in order. It seems intellectually fashionable these days to attack Israel, even when Israel is not connected to the events at hand. Using such absurdities only undermines the author’s credibility.
Had Mr. Lamb been truly concerned about the war being carried out in Libya by NATO, he would have cited the statistics directly, instead of providing a link. He would have cited international legal opinions on the matter, instead of making wisecracks about the players involved.