“Revolutions are often seen as spontaneous. It looks like people just went into the street. But it’s the result of months or years of preparation. It is very boring until you reach a certain point, where you can organize mass demonstrations or strikes. If it is carefully planned, by the time they start, everything is over in a matter of weeks.” — Ivan Marovic, ex-instructor, Center for Applied NonViolent Action and Strategies, Serbia.[1]
With the staging of a second[2] attempt at a “green revolution” in Iran in the wake of the overthrow of the regimes in Tunisia[3] and Egypt[4] by groups primarily sponsored by the National Endowment for Democracy, International Republican Institute, Open Society Institute, Freedom House, USAID and a myriad of their fronts; the question might arise as to whether the turmoil inflicted on Egypt and Tunisia was intended as a prelude to the major target: Iran.
Iraq, Iran and Syria were targeted years ago as priorities for “regime change.” The now well-known letter addressed to President George W. Bush by the Project for a New American Century should be recounted. PNAC outlined a plan of action that was put into affect, starting with the elimination of Saddam Hussein. Iran and Syria were next marked for elimination under the pretext of the “war on terrorism”:
We believe the administration should demand that Iran and Syria immediately cease all military, financial, and political support for Hezbollah and its operations. Should Iran and Syria refuse to comply, the administration should consider appropriate measures of retaliation against these known state sponsors of terrorism.[5]
Among the numerous political and foreign policy luminaries who were signatories to the PNAC letter was Frank Gaffney who, as stated below, is on the Advisory Board of The Foundation for Democracy in Iran.
America’s post-Cold War doctrine for world hegemony was outlined in a comprehensive PNAC document, Rebuilding America’s Defenses.[6] The post-Cold Warriors outlined their plan for a new “Cold War” or “clash of civilizations” that involves not only Islam but all regimes, cultures, religions, traditions and ideologies that do not fit into “a new American century.” The aim was stated unequivocally:
Having led the West to victory in the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does the United States have the vision to build upon the achievement of past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?[7]
Egypt since then became a problem, despite the cliché-ridden ballyhoo about Mubarak being Washington’s man. Perhaps the clincher that marked him for destruction was the geopolitical problem that he was presenting to the USA in the Sudan:
On Nov. 3, 2009 Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul-Gheit stated that within the previous five years Egypt had invested more than $87 million into projects in southern Sudan, including hospitals, schools and power stations, “in hope of convincing the people of southern Sudan to choose unity over secession.” Towards the end of the Bush regime the U.S. Defense Department established the Africa Command (AFRICOM),[8] a primary concern of this new US regional command being the establishment of a massive military base in southern Sudan.[9] It was in US interests that southern Sudan should secede. Keith Harmon Snow, writing on Africom’s agenda for the Sudan, states:
In Darfur, Sudan, the U.S. government agenda is to win control of natural resources and leverage the Arab government into a corner and, at last, establish a more ‘friendly’ government that will suit the corporate interests of the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia and Israel.[10]
Snow named some of the organizations involved in subverting Sudan, which include those that have been involved with subverting Egypt, Tunisia, Iran…
Several major think tanks — read: propaganda, lobbying and pressure — behind the destabilization of Sudan include the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, Center for American Progress, Center for Security Policy, International Rescue Committee and International Crises Group. Individuals from seemingly diverse positions of the political and ideological spectrum run these organizations, which are ultra-nationalist capitalist[11] organizations bent on global military-economic domination.
Now Egypt is well on course to becoming as subordinate as all the other states that have undergone “color revolutions” and “regime change” courtesy of NED, Soros, IRI, et al. Presently, the new Egyptian constitution is being drafted by those with the necessary globalist credentials to ensure that Egypt can enter the world commonwealth of nations as a lickspittle to the USA. Hisham al-Bastawisy, a leading Egyptian judicial official and oppositionist, now heading the Constitutional Amendment Committee, states that a new Constitution should be ready in a month, and that “civil society groups” — a euphemism for subversive organizations funded by NED, Soros, et al, — have prepared several drafts. These organizations include the Arabic Network for Human Rights Information, and the Egyptian Organization for Human Rights.[12]
Soros’ Open Society Institute funds the Arabic Network for Human Rights.[13]ANHR works in alliance with similar organizations particular in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, and Syria. NED funds The Egyptian Organization for Human Rights.[14]
Meanwhile, the National Democratic Institute is training Egypt’s future political class to ensure that the country gets a Western-style democracy where citizens will have the opportunity to vote for tweedledum or tweedledee as the “left” and “right” wings of an American imposed political consensus, as in other countries “liberated” by “regime change.” Leslie Campbell, the National Democratic Institute’s regional director for the Middle East and North Africa, states that NDI, which has been in Egypt since 2005,[15] “is stepping up its long-standing efforts to train political parties and domestic election monitors in Egypt ahead of the transitional campaign and elections.”[16]
While the Gulf States can be mopped up, what remains is Syria, Libya and Iran.
Wikileaks US Cable on Iran
While liberaldom in conjunction with the neocons is getting bellicose towards those few who are suggesting that the “people’s revolutions” are not much more than the excrescences of US based plutocracy and globalism, the revelation of a Wikileaks cable provides hard evidence for the cynical view.
A cable from the US Embassy in London, sent to US Secretary of State Clinton, and embassies in Ankara, Turkmenistan (Ashgabat), Baghdad, Baku, Berlin, Bern, Kabul, Paris, Vienna, Dubai, Istanbul, and the US Mission to the UN, provides some important leads on the troubles that soon emerged in Iran.[17]
The cable states the US Embassy “supports and approves” of the funding of six proposals submitted by Iranian contacts in the UK that also involved those taking part in workshops at Durham University. Among the recommendations supported by the Embassy is the funding of a group of Iranian students in London with contacts in Iran. The US Embassy cable then provides commentary on the workshops being held at Durham University through which it is proposed to fund the Iranian dissidents. The recommendations are:
- …$75,000 funding (six months in duration), under the auspices of Durham University’s School of Governmental Affairs… for a workshop, entitled “Forum to Discuss Iranian NGOs Concerning Women Advocacy.” The workshop’s purpose would be to build links between NGOs inside Iran and their UK-U.S. counterparts for training, networking, knowledge-sharing and increased public awareness, with a goal of joint cooperation between Iran and U.S. universities and NGOs working to empower women.
- An ambitious project at Durham University, entitled “Iran-U.S. Civil Society Engagement” (lasting 12 months, asking $123,050 in funding) which aims at bridging “the communicative gap between influential Iranian individuals affiliated with strategic research centers” and their U.S. counterparts…
This program includes discussing Iranian ethnic relations, and the use of social media including YouTube and Radio Fardo. Radio Fardo is part of a US Government propaganda network, being the Iranian branch of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty,[18] based in Prague, the Czech Republic; a state that was one of the early results of a “velvet revolution.”
- $91,700 to inculcate Iranian seminarians with Western ideas on theology. The project proposal is entitled “Forum To Discuss Iranian Seminary Students and Their Impact on Reform In Iran,” and would emphasize themes of human rights, democracy, accountability and rule of law. This attempt to subvert and use Iranian Shiite theologians is considered of particular importance, in conjunction with recruiting secular youth of the type that has been at the forefront of other “color revolutions’ around the world. The cable states:
There has been only limited western interaction with the clerical sector, portions of which have in recent decades provided intellectual and political resistance both to the former Pahlavi regime as well as to the current regime’s ideology of “Velayet e Faqih” (rule of Islamic jurists), which, though based on the writings of the late Ayatollah Khomeini, is nevertheless theologically repugnant to many Shiite thinkers and believers; such ferment is centered in Iran’s seminaries. Outreach to Iranian Shiite seminarians could complement USG and Western interaction with the more secular, Western-oriented elements of Iran’s political class.
- $75,00 for a program to train journalists for opposing the regime. This would comprise a five-day workshop at Durham University involving ten Iranian journalists. Additionally another program of $75,000 to create dissident media.
- A further program at Durham was to be the cultivating of Iranian local officials such as those from municipal councils. These, it was suggested, might provide the US with valuable contacts for what can only be regarded as spying.
- There is a request of a $48,400 grant for a one-day conference of students to form a united front to organize cultural and education exchanges.
Durham University
When Wikileaks published the cable in February 2011, Durham University issued a brief statement only responding that the university received money from a “broad range” of funders but remained true to its principles of “independent academic discovery.”[19] The student newspaper commented:
The cable suggests that the University was offered and may have accepted over $400,000 from the U.S. State Department for running a series of seminars “under the auspices of Durham University’s School of Governmental Affairs”. The cable dates from April 2008 and emphasizes the usefulness of Durham’s ties with high-ranking Iranian officials as “political cover” for the projects.[20]
Funding subversive programs
The latest report (2009) for the National Endowment for Democracy funding in Iran is vague but alludes to grants totaling $674,506.
The International Republican Institute’s chairman, Sen. John McCain, speaking at a NED conference lauded NED’s annual Democracy Award going in 2010 to “Iran’s Green Movement.” The honor was gained by Iranians having rioted in an abortive “Green Revolution” in 2009, when they spat the dummy after President Ahmadinejad was re-elected. Presumably only certain electoral outcomes are accepted as “democratic” by the globalists. If an electorate chooses by majority not to pursue that path then it is not truly “democratic” and other means must be found to introduce the correct form of democracy. McCain declared:
My friends: If there were ever any doubt, the birth of the Green Movement over the past year should convince us that Iran will have a democratic future. That future may be delayed for awhile, but it will not be denied. And now is the time for the United States to position ourselves squarely on the right side of Iranian history – on the side of courageous Iranian reformers like Shiva Nazar Ahari.[21]
The riots in the aftermath of President Ahmadinejad’s re-election in 2009 would have been about as “spontaneous” (sic) as the “color revolutions” in Eastern European, Central Asia, Egypt, and Tunisia. A report run by USA Today in 2009 stated of these covert programs:
The Obama administration is moving forward with plans to fund groups that support Iranian dissidents, records and interviews show, continuing a program that became controversial when it was expanded by President Bush.
The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), which reports to the secretary of state, has for the last year been soliciting applications for $20 million in grants to “promote democracy, human rights, and the rule of law in Iran,” according to documents on the agency’s website. The final deadline for grant applications is June 30.[22]
NED funding for previous years is easier to identify. In 2005 NED gave grants totalling $4,898,000. The recipients included the Abdorrahman Boroumand Foundation, mentioned below, and the American Center for International Labor Solidarity of $185,000. The latter program included training Iranian labor leaders. It should be recalled that ACILS works closely with free market globalists.[23] Institute of World Affairs (IWA) $45,800, to train jurists on how to bastardise Sharia law via Western liberal jurisprudence. International Republican Institute $110,000, for the purpose of linking Iranian oppositionists with international networks. National Iranian-American Council (NIAC) $64,000, to link Iranian groups with international organizations, and to assist with the English translation of Farsi materials.[24]
Going ahead to NEDs 2008 reporting on Iran, the recipients included: Abdorrahman Boroumand Foundation, $140,000. Association for Civic Society in Iran (ACSI) $80,000, Center for International Private Enterprise (CIPE) $141,793, which fosters free market capitalism on a global scale in solidarity with their comrades in the American Center for International Labor Solidarity.[25] Research Initiative for Contemporary Iran (RICI), $87,000.
While Soros’ Open Society Foundations claim they have not operated in Iran since 2007, this is disingenuous. The Soros networks fund a colossal number of fronts and allied organizations, including those with a presence in Iran. The conference of the Digital Youth of Central Asia, which is funded by Soros but which does not seem to be a Soros front per se, includes Iranian youth activists whose presence was mentioned at the Digital Youth December 2010 conference held in Tajikistan.[26]
Iran Moves Against Globalists
In January 2010 Iran blacklisted numerous organizations regarded as subversive, including:
1. Soros Foundation — Open Society
2. Woodrow Wilson Center
3. Freedom House [27]
4. National Endowment for Democracy (NED)[28]
5. National Democratic Institute (NDI)[29]
6. International Republican Institute (IRI)[30]
7. Institute for Democracy in East Europe (EEDI)[31]
8. Democracy Center in East Europe (CDEE)
9. Ford Foundation
10. Rockefeller Brothers Foundation
11. Hoover Institute at Stanford Foundation
12. Hivos Foundation, Netherlands
13. Menas, U.K.
14. United Nations Association (USA)
15. Carnegie Foundation
16. Wilton Park, U.K.
17. Search for Common Ground (SFCG)
18. Population Council
19. Washington Institute for Near East Policy
20. Aspen Institute
21. American Enterprise Institute
22. New America Foundation
23. Smith Richardson Foundation
24. German Marshal Fund (US, Germany and Belgium)
25. International Center on Nonviolent Conflict
26. Abdorrahman Boroumand Foundation at Yale University
27. Meridian Center
28. Foundation for Democracy in Iran
29. American Initiative Institute
30. Private Trade International Center
31. American Center for International Labor Solidarity[32]
32. International Center for Democracy Transfer
33. Albert Einstein Institute
34. World Movement for Democracy[33]
35. The Democratic Youth Network
36. Democracy Information and Communication Technology Group
37. International Parliamentarian Movement for Democracy
38. RIGA Institute
39. The Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard Law School
40. Council on Foreign Relations
41. Foreign Policy Society, Germany
42. MEMRI
43. Centre for Democracy Studies, U.K.
44. Yale University and all its affiliates
45. National Defense University, U.S.
46. Iran Human Rights Documents Center
47. American Center FLENA
48. Brookings Institution Saban Center
49. Human Rights Watch
50. New America Foundation[34]
The nature and extent of the Iranian blacklist indicates just how aware the Iranian administration is as to the character of world globalist subversion. Every nation that aims to maintain its sovereignty could do well in consulting the Iranians.
Looking at several of the blacklisted organizations, the Abdorrahman Boroumand Foundation, “receives approximately 50% of its support from private U.S. Foundations, 34% of its support from private European foundations, and 16% of its funding from the National Endowment for Democracy (NED)…”[35]
The Foundation for Democracy in Iran was founded in 1995 with grants from NED. The Governing Board includes: FDI Chairman, Nader Afshar, who “has worked extensively with the United States Information Agency and the Voice of America Farsi Service;” and Secretary-Treasurer, William Nojay, who has worked in Ukraine and Afghanistan for the International Republican Institute.
FDI Board Member Herbert I London, is president of the Hudson Instituted, is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
The FDI Advisory Board includes: Menashe Amir, Persian language broadcaster for Israel Radio International; Pooya Dayanim, president of the Iranian Jewish Public Affairs Committee; Frank Gaffney, former Reagan appointee and NATO advisor, founder of the Center for Security Policy, a neocon think tank whose slogan is “peace through strength;” Amil Imani, director of Former Muslims United, and founder of Arabs for Israel; Reza Kahlili, a CIA agent who had worked in Iran for more than 20 years; R. James Woolsey, U.S. Director of the CIA 1993–1995.
FDI Founding Board Members: Joshua Muravchik, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, Trustee, Freedom House[36]; Peter W. Rodman, Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs; Dr. Mehdi Rouhani, “spiritual leader” of Shiites in Europe.[37]
A major oversight of the Iranian blacklist seems to be the Center for Applied NonViolent Action and Strategies (CANVAS), headquartered in Serbia, and having their origins in the Optor (“Resistance”) movement that helped toppled Milosevic. Having screwed up Serbia for the benefit of international big business, the fine young idealists who were at the forefront of the “color revolution” thought it would be a noble idea to impart their experiences to those in other countries who might want their nations subservient to US foreign policy, their economies wracked by debt and privatization and their traditional cultures replaced for the culture of the global shopping mall, American sit-coms and MTV. They provided the training for Kmara in Georgia, which led the revolt or “Rose Revolution” against Shevardnadze in 2003 after he had the temerity to win the presidential election. “It was followed by the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, where former Otpor activists spent months advising the Pora (“It’s Time”) youth movement.”[38] While Rosenberg claims that Optor now gives Washington “a wide berth” after many felt betrayed when it was found that the organization had been funded by the USA, despite denials, CANVAS nonetheless continues to receive funding from Freedom House, and the International Republican Institute,[39] so denials about Washington funding are quite disingenuous.
CANVAS provided training for the Egyptian youth of the April 6th Movement that provided the impetus for the Egyptian revolt, Mohamed Adel, travelling to Serbia in 2009 for instruction. Tina Rosenberg enthuses:
They have worked with democracy advocates from more than 50 countries. They have advised groups of young people on how to take on some of the worst governments in the world — and in Georgia, Ukraine, Lebanon, the Maldives, and now Egypt, those young people won.[40]
Another CANVAS ally is The Albert Einstein Institute, one of the organizations blacklisted by Iran, founded in 1983 by Gene Sharp, the ideological and strategic guru of the “color revolutions,” who apparently got his start as the intellectual mentor of “velvet revolutions” when his first revolutionary manual, The Politics of Nonviolent Action (1973) was funded by the Pentagon via the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. Sharp is stated by the Iranian Government to be the primary inspiration for the “Green movement.” A US press report states:
In a mass trial of some 100 key reformist figures this past August, Iranian prosecutors charged that postelection protests were “completely planned in advance and proceeded according to a timetable and the stages of a velvet coup [such] that more than 100 of the 198 events were executed in accordance with the instructions of Gene Sharp.”[41]
The AEI receives funding for the publication and translations of their revolutionary manuals; especially Sharp’s seminal From Dictatorship to Democracy,[42] from Soros’ omnipresent Open Society Institute. Sharp writes:
The Albert Einstein Institution (then in Cambridge, and later in Boston, Massachusetts, USA) solicited funds from the Open Society Institute that made possible the translation and publication of From Dictatorship to Democracy into four of the ethnic languages of Burma: Mon, Karen, Jing Paw, and Chin.
Translations of this publication in print or on a web site include the following languages: Khmer (Cambodia), Farsi (Iran), Mandarin (China), Russian, Vietnamese, Amharic (Ethiopia), Spanish, Belarusian, Dhivehi (Maldives), Nepali, Tibetan, Tigrinia (Eritrea), Uzbek, Kyrgyz, Arabic, Indonesian, and Azeri (Azerbaijan). Several others are in preparation. [43]
“We Are All Ahmadinejads Now!”
President Ahmadinejad has been one of the few statesmen in the world to stand up to both Zionism and plutocracy. His blacklisting of a host of nefarious subversives shows great insight into the workings of the globalist web of subversion. Iran remains a roadblock in the culmination of the new world disorder. To coin a catchy slogan for the current times: “We Are All Ahmadinejads Now!”
Notes
[1] Tina Rosenberg, “What Egypt Learned from the Students who Overthrew Milosovec,” Foreign Policy, (not to be confused with the venerable Foreign Policy Journal) February 16, 2011, http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/02/16/revolution_u?print=yes&hidecomments=yes&page=full
[2] The first “Green Revolution,” prompted by a sour-grapes loss by the oppositionists in the 2009 elections, was abortive.
[3] K R Bolton, “Tunisian Revolt: Another NED/Soros Jackup?,” Foreign Policy Journal, https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/01/18/tunisian-revolt-another-sorosned-jack-up/
[4] K R Bolton, “What’s Behind the Tumult in Egypt?,” Foreign Policy Journal, February 1, 2011
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/02/01/whats-behind-the-tumult-in-egypt
[5] Project for a New American Century, “Toward a Comprehensive Strategy
Project for the New American Century,” September 20, 2001.
[6] Project for a New American Century, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and resources for a New Century,” September 2000, http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
[7] Project for a New American Century, ibid., p. 2.
[8] US Africa Command, “FAQ,” http://www.africom.mil/AfricomFAQs.asp
[9] Adam Morrow and Khaled Moussa Al-Omrani, Jan./Feb. 2011, “Sudan Set to Split, Despite Egyptian moves,” The Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs: http://www.washington-report.org/component/content/article/363/10285-sudan-set-to-split-despite-egyptian-moves-.html
[10] Keith Harmon Snow, “Africom’s Covert War in Sudan,” Dissident Voice, March 6, 2009, http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/africoms-covert-war-in-sudan/
[11] Snow errs here. “Ultra-nationalist capitalist” is a misnomer.” In former centuries the nation-sates served capitalism, as did the age of empires. These eras have gone, and the concepts of both empire and nation-state are inimical to the globalization process of capitalism. For those of a Leftist-bent, Marx wrote of this current globalization process of capitalism in The Communist Manifesto.
[12] Yasmine Saleh, “Rewrite Egyptian Constitution form Scratch, say critics,” Reuters, February 16, 21011, http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE71F0N620110216
[13] Arabic Network for Human Rights, http://www.anhri.net/en/reports/net2004/thank.shtml
[14] National Endowment for Democracy, “Egypt,” http://www.ned.org/publications/annual-reports/2005-annual-report/middle-east-and-north-africa/description-of-2005-gra-2
[15] It seems that the “tyrant” Mubarak was altogether too tolerant of these nests of vipers.
[16] Ernesto Londoo, “Egypt Starts Overhauling Constitution,” Washington Post, February 17, 2011, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/16/AR2011021606943.html
[17]Maura Connelly, Political Minister Counselor, US Embassy, London, “Iran: Democracy Small Grants Proposals Recommended for Funding,” February 15, 2011. http://www.wikileaks.ch/cable/2008/04/08LONDON1163.html
[18] Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, “Radio Fardo Fast Facts,” http://www.rferl.org/info/Iran/186.html
[19] Daniel Johnson and Jack Battersby, Palantinate: The Official University Student Newspaper, February 8 2011, http://www.palatinate.org.uk/?p=10679
[20] Ibid.
[21] International Republican Institute, “Remarks at the National Endowment for Democracy Conference One Year Later: Prospects for a Democratic Transition in Iran U.S. Senator John McCain,” IRI Chairman, June 10, 2010, http://www.iri.org/news-events-press-center/news/iri-chairman-speaks-ned-conference-honoring-irans-green-movement
[22] Ken Dilanian, “US grants support to Iranian dissidents,” USA Today, June 28, 2009, http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-06-25-iran-money_N.htm
[23] K R Bolton, “The Globalist Web of Subversion,” Foreign Policy Journal, February 7, 2011, http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/02/07/the-globalist-web-of-subversion/all/1
[24] National Endowment for Democracy, “Iran,” http://www.ned.org/publications/annual-reports/2005-annual-report/middle-east-and-north-africa/description-of-2005-gra-3
[25] National Endowment for Democracy, “Iran,” http://www.ned.org/publications/annual-reports/2008-annual-report/middle-east-and-northern-africa/2008-grants/iran
[26] Digital Youth of Central Asia, “Going Digital In Central Asia,” December 7, 2010, http://blog.soros.org/2010/12/going-digital-in-central-asia/
[27] K R Bolton, “The Globalist Web of Subversion,” op. cit.
[28] K R Bolton, ibid.
[29] K R Bolton, ibid. National Democratic Institute’s program in Iran is centered on the “Supporting Democratic Initiatives” project to provide resources for Iranian oppositionists.
[30] K R Bolton, ibid.
[31] K R Bolton, ibid.
[32] K R Bolton, ibid.
[33] K R Bolton, ibid.
[34] Laura Rozen, “Blacklist: Who’s on Iran Intel Ministry’s List?,” Politico, January 5, 2010, http://www.politico.com/blogs/laurarozen/0110/Blacklist_Whos_on_Iran_intel_ministrys_list_.html
[35] Abdorrahman Boroumand Foundation, “About the Foundation,” http://www.iranrights.org/english/foundation.php
[36] K R Bolton, “The Globalist Web of Subversion,” op. cit.
[37] Foundation for Democracy in Iran, http://www.iran.org/about.htm
[38] Tina Rosenberg, op. cit..
[39] CANVAS, “Co-operation and Partnerships,” http://www.canvasopedia.org/canvas-cooperation-and-partnerships.php
[40] Tina Rosenberg, Foreign Policy, (not FPJ)op. cit.
[41] Scott Peterson, “Iran protesters: the Harvard professor behind their tactics,” Christian Science Monitor, December 29, 2009, http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2009/1229/Iran-protesters-the-Harvard-professor-behind-their-tactics
[42] Gene Sharp, From Dictatorship to Democracy, (AEI, 1993, 1994, etc). The book was originally written as a manual for the abortive “Saffron Revolution” in Myanmar. G Sharp, “A Short History of “From Dictatorship to Democracy,” http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD_history.pdf
[43] G Sharp, ibid.
Let me buy a line from The Cure to complement your article on the American policies in the ME.
“… and every time I try to pick it up like falling sand,
as fast as I pick it up, it runs away through my clutching hands.
But there is nothing else I can really do, there is nothing else I can really do at all”
Regards
Iranians are smart. After all they have the world’s fastest growth rate in science and technology. Iran will never fall as most of Iranians love Ahmadinejad. Google for Eric Brill analysis of Iranian election and the ” Analysis of Multiple Polls Finds Little Evidence Iranian Public Sees Government as Illegitimate ” to see that a large propaganda had been designed to bad mouth Iran and instigate another operation Ajax. But Iranian government with help of its people were quick at stopping the US planned coup by a few rich Iranians wearing Calvin Klein jeans and holding up English language placards in a country whose 90% population can not even understand English alphabets. Such is the irony. Democracy by definition is the rule of majority. And the majority in Iran love to live an independent life based on their own cultural and social traditions using their own resources. Is this not wonderful that Iran does not want and need American aid paid by US tax payers as compared to Egypt and Israel? Is this not wonderful if all countries in the world could be free from imperialism and contribute by their strength to world community instead of being a colony for a few fascist “institutes”?
Democracy is rule by majority, BUT with protection of the rights of the minority. This regime supports uprisings elsewhere, but when it comes to its own people it brutally attacks them. It is executing 3 people a day. The opposition is under house arrest. The smart Iranians you are referring to are desperately seeking asylums and visas in the free world. People are not free to dress as they like. This is fascism. If you like it so much, why don’t you go live there.
AP,
In Iran minorities have as much protection as in Spain or US. As I have said below even in US or UK when you become part of certain minority groups then your protection is revoked by states. It is no more different than in Iran. In 1970’s US if you were a communist in contact with Soviet Union then you basically had no protection. The same goes for the rich Iranian neo-liberals in contact with US. Do not be a hypocrite. Admit the fact that all countries have holy cows. Singling out Iran to emotionally hijack Americans in order for American tax payer bankrolling people like you and your dirty dreams is wrong. Iran is supporting the fall of all those regimes which are pro-American. That is their foreign policy. Just like it is the foreign policy of US to bring down Iranian government and it would be stupid if Iran supported its own demise and breakup by protecting certain groups which are working against Iran’s national security on foreign funds. It would be as if US started to support instead of suppressing Alqaeda and Taliban and Communists in US. Freedom has got its limits. The opposition you are referring to are actually traitors from the Iranian point of view. When Bush unfairly stole the election in 2000, the democratic party as a responsible opposition accepted the result in the bigger interest of US and did not join up with Chinese secrete service and their social media servers in order to bring down US constitution. In Iran Mosavi lost the election as proven by all independent international polls conducted and still he joined up with ranks of CIA and Saudis. That is not much of an opposition. That is traitor-ship. And if there is anything true Americans hate more than dictatorship, it is being a traitor. The same people whom you referred being under house arrest if they were in US and had done the same acts, people would have killed them by now. Make no mistake. The smart Iranians I talked about have pushed Iran up in science and technology rankings as has been noted by US gov report published by National Science Foundation. The people who are asking for asylum save afew mostly come to not so free but certainly more sexual western world opting to work as in second hand car dealerships, real state pusher agents and McDonald chicken firers just because they get paid better since US is the imperial power in the world and just because they get cheaper sex and as soon as you take out these out of equation, none of those whom you referred have the spine to stand up and fight for America. Their loyalty to America runs as deep as the money they get paid for. That is the truth. Once a traitor, always a traitor. Once a traitor to the land you were born in, always a traitor to the land you adapt. Watching Iranian channels in US, one gets the sense that the people running those channels are more interested in returning to Iran as kings on the back of US soldiers than actually being true to American principles of hard work and American flag. People are not free to dress as they want in US either. Try to roam around flashing in nothing but your G-panties next time you are in Texas City. Freedom can not be absolute. The law of the land which usually reflects the wish of majority of people living there has to be respected. I do not think Iran being a conservative society is ready to accept girls in Bikinis roaming around just like US is not ready to accept nude people going to white house for a chat with their president live on TV. The only fascism is when you try to implement the ideas of a minority on majority of people. I like my country and just like I said American people are not traitors to just go and leave on every whim and illusive dream they get. They stay, work hard and fix their country’s problems, unlike you I guess. So it is moot whether I should go to Iran or not, since the question here is when will you and people like you go back to Iran for a change instead of wasting our taxes on your political plans for that country.
One more thing. You mentioned Iranian states kills 3 people daily. That is not right since even the wildest anti-Iran international NGO’s do not support that. At most Iran executes 300 a year. People get executed in US too, there are as well state killings in US by cops and other departments. It happens in every country specially killing by cops even in France. Besides almost all those who are executed in Iran are murderers, rapists, armed robbers and drug smugglers. Considering that Iran neighborers Afghanistan a country that produces 95% of world’s opium and heroine and again knowing the fact that over two thirds of all opiates intercepted in the world is done by Iranian police then it is not surprising that so many smugglers are executed. That brings us to another mutuality here. American people also hate drug smugglers and pushers, just like they hate murderers, rapists and armed robbers.
You know very little about the contemporary Iranian history. Iranian people suffered a tremendous loss in 1953 in the hands of subversive planning by the CIA where a democratically elected prime minister was overthrown by CIA’s planning. Even though this plan was designed and financed by the U.S.A, those who executed the plan were Iranian nationals. Iranians have never and WILL never forget this tragedy and will do everything in their power to prevent the repeat of such a disastrous event. For this reason, there is a lot of sensitivity on the part of Iranians to make sure that dissent is expressed peacefully and without any interference from the U.S. and E.U. The harsh treatment of those who oppose the Iranian government has a lot to do with what I just explained and contributed by the millions of dollars (400+) the U.S. Congress has allocated to undermine the Iranian government. So, the fault of the harsh treatment protesters in Iran are getting falls on the shoulders of the U.S. government. One more thing. Tell the U.S. government that they WILL NEVER get their hands on a DROP of Iranian OIL. It’s time to forget about it once and for all!!!!
As an Iranian who has lived 48 years in Iran I am afraid your view of Iran events are very shallow and unrealistic. Try Arabian or even Afgan media and you will find them more profound in Iran issues.
Yes, thanks, Joe P. I also highly encourage people to check out Eric Brill’s analysis: http://brillwebsite.com/writings/iran2009election.html.
I’m proud to say I consulted with Mr. Brill on this paper.
You are welcome. As is the rule of nature, truth can not remain hidden for long.
are you talking about same ahmadinejade who persian beleves looks like a monkey. talk like a monkey, looks like a monkey, guess what he is a monkey. and by the way iam a true persian but you are an insult to persian who are befriended to arab.
Dear Mr. Bolton (I am assuming no relation to John),
Have you ever been arrested by the Iranian morale police because of your hair is sticking out? Have you every been endlessly looking for a decent job, and which is elusive despite your diplomas and parents sacrifice to educate you? Have you ever heard on your national TV lies after lies, which you perfectly know that it is untrue? Have you ever feared to talk? If you have not, you may at last have the explanation on why the middle class is revolting in Iran, putting themselves at risk of losing their lives, or being arrested and tortured. Conspiracy theories are not substitute for this reality.
Dear Mr. Lemaitre (which means “The Teacher” in French), assuming that you name is your last name and not a nickneme, what do you think to teach us about Iran? Have you gronwn up there? Heve you ever even been there even once?
If it is a nick, wouldn’t most of the questions you put apply to most of the countries of the world? Why single out Iran for your resentment?
Usul,
Maybe she is the same French “teacher” who had been arrested in Iran for being a spy and implicated to have organized her contacts to rise up against Iranian government to promote French interests. When she was later on traded for an Iranian spy in French prison, it was announced by the former head of French intelligence as well as others that she indeed was a spy working deep cover in Iran using her beautiful body to make intel contacts in Isfahan. The old trick in spy manuals.
Lemaitre, Dr. Bolton did not propose any “conspiracy theories”. He merely presented facts and drew logical conclusions. Nor did Dr. Bolton ever suggest that the reality you describe was another other.
Lemaitre,
Have you ever been arrested by the American police because you are not standing in the “first amendment zone” when you protested against US policies? A first amendment zone is a fenced-in area, patrolled by armed policemen with trained dogs, where the US government keeps you under camera surveillance as you exercise your right to free speech?
“”Have you every been endlessly looking for a decent job in the USA, and which is elusive despite your diplomas and parents sacrifice to educate you, and the massive debt you will have after you get that diploma?
Have you ever heard on your zionist-controlled national TV lies after lies, which you perfectly know that it is untrue? Have you ever feared to talk or blog because the US Patriot Act can spy on your internet, your library, your credit card, your bank account?
If you have not, you may at last have the explanation on why the middle class XXXisXXX WILL SOON BE revolting in XXXXIran,XXXX putting themselves at risk of losing their lives, or being arrested and tortured. Conspiracy theories are not substitute for this reality.
dear lemaitre ,as a persian living in usa, my eyes crys for you and my hearth bleed for you. you are brave,brave persian who keeps our dreams alive by staying strong. we, persian in usa are yours true supporters and we all love you to death.
@ Lemaitre,
Every Bolton is not a John. Stop judging people on the go, see what they are really made of. As for the rest of your comment which is filled with Fox news propaganda against Iran, I must say that the world is tired of them. Long hair arrests if the “long hairs” are out there working on Soros funds to bring down the government is completely justified. Go and read the CIA manual of Gene Sharp who exactly advocates using the same techniques to bring out brain washed people and put them against the governments US does not like. Other techniques include wearing same color panties and bras by the so called protesters pumped up by over 150 TV and radio Persian sat channels beamed into Iran and funded by US based institutes. Looking for job? Are you kidding? People have lost more than jobs in US, they have lost their homes and health insurance, living in parkings on streets. And US is not under sanctions or is not under threat by a force that is thousands of times stronger than her. It would be as if US was under threat by ET aliens and sanctions and Americans would be whining about better job prospects. Iranians are still much better off. They might not all be getting their “ideal” jobs but they still can afford to live. Ask about job prospects from liberated Iraqis, to know what it means. And about your education, that you should be squarely thankful to your government which has been promoting education in Iran for the past 30 years improving the literacy rate of Iran for 7 years and older people from 40% to over 95% today. Not to mention that 30 years back Iran’s contribution to world’s total science and technology production was less than 0.0003% while today it accounts for 1.2%. See the difference. If people in Switzerland have a better life it is because the previous generations of Swiss have been working hard day in and day out for the past several hundred years building the basis of hitech and scientific nation you see today. Iran has just started that process. When Swiss used to manufacture high quality watches for the rest of the world 300 years ago, Iran at the time had no technological product back then. So stop whining and start working so that your next generations can have a better life than yours.
TV news that are lies? That is an old news. Are you talking about CNN and Fox? Or perhaps BBC? Because as I remember the Iranian TV have been right all these times. While CNN and Fox in 1985 were saying that Iran is killing Iraqi kurds by chemical bombing them, Iranian TV was saying it is Saddam who is using US supplied chemical weapons on civilian population. We now know better who was right. That is just one example. I can give you thousands.
Yeah, alot of people are afraid to talk. You start to talk about Israeli interests in the wrong way and the fear will naturally follow. Have you ever tried to even modestly challenge the government sanctioned truth in Germany even in an academic way? Because if you do the fear is the last thing that you will ever feel in your life. How about being a communist in western ally South Korea? If you still do not feel the fear then I would say that you have never known about Dr. Kelly or Kent massacre or Los angeles 1992.
Middle class is not revolting in Iran. All independent international polls conducted show that the majority of middle class support the government in Iran. There is a strong opposition in Iran just like it should be in any healthy political country but only a fraction of Iranian population is against the system in Iran. Lets not mix up opposition with anarchists and CIA supported hooligans who burn public buses and cars on streets. The real opposition seats in parliament while the CIA supported goons like Shaboon Bimokh of operation Ajax roam the streets with knives and guns. I know your history to the last drop. The only conspiracy theory is your ideology that a group of kids hooked up on NSA monitored facebook and tweeter can bring about a revolution in Iran. No that failed. 400 million dollars gone up in smoke. I guess now you have to go to lobbyists to get even more for your nefarious goals using hard earned US tax payers money to fund your “political ambitions” while you and people like are afraid to work hard for a few generations. All this while American tax payer is drowning in debt paying for propaganda satellite channels and expensive covert ops to satisfy your illusions of Iran. The message is clear, if you want something go and work for it. We are tired of bankrolling your ambitions and sending our soldiers to die for your dreams. Your emotional blackmail of American people by using propagandas that little girls are being raped in Iran by state and boys are being castrated in order to hijack American loyalties for your political aims is not going to work anymore. Iranian government is no more monstrous than US government. Your ignorance in the face of tonnes of objective evidence is astounding.
mr joe and usul . do you have any relation to khamenie. if not. i should say, you are surly are being paid very good to have such high view for mullas and goverment that take enjoyment to see persian in iran suffers but load and load of cashs are being send to arabic power so they can feel the power and fame. by the way i forgot . can you remind me where in you wholy book says mullas should ask their soldier to rape girls and boys if they claim their right?
Joe and Usul,
I am Iranian, born in Northern Iran (In Rasht to be precise, which had very violent attacks by Basiji on Sunday 20/2), speak fluent Persian, I have still few family members left, travel every few years back to my mother country and deeply care about Iran. Your views are tinted by a deep anti-American ideology, and your figures that are both true and false. Yes, Iranians are increasingly well-educated, but is it a result of Iranians or Islamic regime? Just for your own culture the same regime that you laude for its scientific research closed in 1980’s for 2 years all universities in order to purge the education system from secular ideas. The same system decides on a regular basis to name deans that are Islamic and obedient to the regime rather than qualified. The same people have been attacking university dorms killing in the past 2 years scores of students. The brain drain of well educated Iranians is constant and increasing, and benefits the Western countries. Mr. Soros or VoA cannot push any unwilling Iranian citizen to put herself or himself into harm way if there was not a profound malaise. It is today a middle class uprising (but which revolt did not middle class as its main constituent?), but the ‘poor’ are also suffering. Drug, unemployment, and low pay are taking a huge toll on this social class (if you could qualify them as social class). I have in my vicinity (people that worked with my mother, nurses that were taking care of my family, …), which suffer from all of the three social and economic problems. They live without hope of a better live, and need assistance to put food on their ‘shofreh’ every night. Your acerb rhetoric belies a deep lack of knowledge of Iran and Iranians. This is a regime that stole the body of a Kurdish student killed by police or Basiji bullets on 14/2/11, to claim it as a Basiji in front of cameras. So one comes with the conclusion that you are at best duped by a propaganda machine, which finds fertile ground in your so-called anti-imperialism.
Lemaitre,
You have again repeated your one liners without providing any objective evidence except your own word of mouth, which I am very skeptical of. I have logically addressed all of your emotional issues above and invited you to google for objective evidence but alas you seem not to have read me at all. Your accusations do not stand up to reality. Ofcourse education has improved because of the Islamic government. Otherwise your last secular kings never accomplished these feats despite having had ruled over Iran for much longer. After every revolution the state institutes are cleansed from the remnants of previous regimes. Read about it in American, Russian and French revolution. What happened in Iran is the classic revolution with all its bells and whistles. The burden of proof is on you to prove that Iranians have achieved educational and scientific advancements despite the government being opposed to it and actually executing people who want to learn and invent. Because the evidence that I have seen tells me that Islamic government has invested heavily in education and funds 80% of all scientific research in the country. As for naming deans and faculty, the same is in US, where any faculty critical of Zionism or other sensitive issues are never allowed in or to be deans. I dont understand why it should be any different in Iran. There have been political and mass killings on US university campuses too, eg. Kent school massacre. So as I said before stop whining about it. Get over it. It is like that every where. You collude with foreign forces doing their bidding to bring down your own country sitting in your dorm, and that is what is going to happen to you, if you are in US. If you do not want SWAT to explode their way into your dorm room electrocuting you down, then do not sabotage national security issues whether in US or in Iran.
I addressed the brain drain issue above. Working as toilet cleaners and Mall security guards is not as per say requiring much brains of top order, save afew that is what most who immigrate do. Even counting for that, as I said US government, British government, Spanish government, international research institutes as well as international indexing organizations all universally accept and regularly announce that Iran has the world’s fastest growth rate in science and technology. To be more clear here, it means that Iran is number one, or Iran is growing fastest. It means that no other nation is growing as fast as Iran in science and technology. This has happened under the same Islamic government which is funding the scientific revival of Iran. I have no reason to believe your assertions that Iranian government is repressing the Iranian scientific community and still Iran is progressing so fast. Because as per your say, Iranian government is an animal which kills on smallest provocation so basically by now with this growth rate in science there must be no scientist left alive in Iran. I and you both know that is not the case. So you are lying. This growth rate has happened under this government and not under the secular Shahs when Iran was always an importer of science and technology with no capabilities of its own whatsoever since atleast 15th century. Infact under successive Shahs Iran was getting smaller by day, losing territories to world powers, such as the last Shah’s loss of Bahrain or the previous ones loss of Caucasus etc. This current system actually for the first time in 350 years is the system that has not lost territory. They defended Iran, instead of the previous spineless Shah’s cowardice. I do not know how you as an Iranian who was born there and speaks Persian can take so much insult and still take more. No American would be able to stand so much historical insult. Mr Soros or CIA are fully capable of bringing people on streets. During operation Ajax CIA had used only afew million dollars to bring people to streets and at that time CIA was only afew years old with no experience and hitech capabilities. During that op not only they brought people to harms way but also caused the killings of thousands of Iranians which ultimately brought down the government of the time. The newspapers of the day in western capitals announced that the people of Iran had protested against the government and had brought down Mossadeq. We now know what really happened after almost 6 decades. 2009 was no more different.
As for your other nobrainers, like drug, unemployment etc etc. I already explained to you that wealth of nations is made over period of several generations. Nations do not get wealthy overnight. I gave you example of Switzerland but alas you like the people with criminal mind want to get rich overnight without hard work. That is what throws me off when I see people like you. You want our tax dollars to finance your wars both political and military while you do nothing. I bet after you get the bikini Iran you wish for then US will have to send billions of dollars of aid to Iran as well just like we are already giving aid to almost all of our “allies”. Drugs exist in US too. Infact as per lots of evidence in public domain, US and NATO have an active role in production of 95% of world’s opium and heroine and shipping it to Iran and Russia. Just to give you some solace, I want you to know that though Iran has high opiate addiction rates, US has a higher addiction rates for Cocaine. But nobody in US with a sane mind blames government for his cocaine addiction. People blame themselves for their addiction since they had a choice when they started taking drugs and when they did, in all probability they did not get advice of the government. Unemployment and low pay exists in US too. One third of US homeless and beggars on streets are US war veterans. 80 million Americans almost the population of Iran do not have any health insurance mostly living in very poor conditions. You have no idea what US slums look like, where there is always a chase between police and residents. Where do you think US gets the world’s largest prison population both by numbers and ratio. 1% of US population at any time is in prison something Iranians can not even imagine in their wildest dreams. Talk about social stresses. Compared to US, Iran has none. I know more about Iran than you since my knowledge does not come from CNN and Fox unlike yours. There are many more people in US living in much worse conditions than your neighbor. These exist in every country.
Iran did not steal any dead body. I went through that story and it seems that he was really a basiji who had been shot dead by MKO elements which have been active in Iran since even before revolution. Such tactics are being used to increase violent clashes. So far Iranian state has been very lenient with these hooligans. If it was in US, as in Los Angeles 1992, US marines would go in with tanks and shoot at will. The father this basiji even told the media that his son was a basiji. Stop playing the Kurd card. Trying to exploit the racial and religious differences is what enemies of Iran are doing and you can not be a true Iranian even by mentioning it. Another reason I suspect you are lying here. Since I have not met a single Iranian who wants to see Iran broken up into an Iranestan or maybe you do. As for more evidence of you lying I refer you to old saying that once a liar, always a liar. Mosavi lied about the election results. All scientific evidence indicates Ahmadinejad won, as I have provided reference for it in above comments. When Musavi lied then why should he and his cronies be telling the truth now. The same media groups who are promoting this dead guy as a green protester are the same who said that Iranian scientists had been killed by Iran itself. Now the truth has come out and we know who killed them. Propaganda is such that only those who have a longer memory can identify it. It is you who is duped by propaganda machine specially that you are such a slave minded person that no amount of evidence is enough to take you off your chains. You shall die in those chains just like many other slaves. Only free spirited souls can taste freedom.
One last point. Never try to teach me about America. I know exactly what American ideals and visions are. And they are not supporting people like you. The founding fathers never envisioned helping a bunch of cheats and liars like the green movement in order to secure America’s (or Israel’s) strategic interests. So do not try to push this anti-American button too far. It is you and people like you who are anti-Americans here. Literally sucking America’s resources out for your future political ambitions. Spending the resources of America’s future generations to satisfy your criminal goals in your motherlands. If you are so much in love with your Iran then go there and dedicate your life for your land. Become mother Theresa or something. Oh, I get it now, you are selfish greedy person who only thinks for his/her own stomach and sexual needs who wants US tax payers to take over all humanitarian aids to their people. What a hypocrite you are. If you believe you are right, in your ideology then why you have left your Rasht and came to west to enjoy your materialistic life. Go back and dedicate your life to serve for free people like your neighbors. Go celibate. Forfeit all material gains. Live off like monks. Too many in west have dedicated their lives in such ways in the past several centuries to improve the society. From scientists who lived in abject poverty like Copernicus to social workers who never married like Florence Nightingale. What you have done for Iran? That is right, nothing. You just watch Fox news and then you max out on burning buses on streets. No expectation of logic from a criminal mind.
Let them be Lemaitre! They are the real traitors themselves. I bet Joe P guy is an Islamic suffering from mind cancer so he doesn’t care about other oppressed minorities in Iran. Just bunch of traitor Iranian-Americans. They are the regime agents blogging against western values for their filthy islamistic ambitions. Their ideology is suicidal and inhuman in all ways. How much do u receive Joe P? Tell me in Iranian Rials. I wanna see if it’s worth disregarding Iranian’s right to live without fear. Joe P you’re a mind whore my friend.
Dajjal,
Interesting name, you got there. It is Arabic for anti-Christ. So now we know what kind of twisted personalities we are dealing with here. I have answered your concerns above. But additionally I have to say this. You are incapable of sophisticated logic and that is why all you have done is personal attacks. So cheap and substandard. I wish we could deport all of you hypocrites back to Iran. But maybe we will do some day when a truely American government takes over in US. You have been living on American tax payers generosity for too long. Your time will come too. American people are already fed up with you and your demands for more and more while American kids have to live on less and less.
I agree with you Joe P. Thanx.
Agree 100%
Joe P is a basiji
joe choss pop is a iranian muslem wanna be hezbullah
love your reply
Iran is not the next domino. Some western regimes might be though.
Great points Joe P.
Thanks Neo.
So what? You think you’re more American than me? And you think your kids are of more help for the US? You have misread some fact my friend. I am here as a doctor who runs his own clinic and pay way more taxes you and your like-minded Muhammedists. Besides, FYI I have studied in Iran and thus had no cost for the US and made it to the US with highest USMLE score. Immigration of Iranians to the US and elsewhere is a win-win game regardless traitor bloodsuckers like u who don’t let the ppl live in peace and live on Mullahs generous charities.
Iranian regime is the filthiest entity on this planet. IRGC is the only state-run terrorist military on the globe who is backed by huge oil reserves (which must be controlled by the West) in the middle-east. Basij is the largest militia in the world and is backed and financed by IRGC together with other infamous terrorist organizations Hizbollah and Hamash. I wonder what kind of American you are. You and Noam Chomsky and other ungrateful Americans should immigrate to Iran. They will welcome you well and you can teach English, Americanophobia, and anti-Semitism to the terrorists who are being trained there.
I certainly think I am American while you are not. As for your kids if they are born in US and have not committed crimes against national security of US they can stay, but you and people like you on the other hand should be thrown out. A bunch of liars who have worked against US interests from within US spending our tax dollars on your twisted dreams for the lands you were born in. Founding fathers never imagined it would come to this. Misreading “facts”, dude you gave no facts except only abusive chatter. You are incapable of a logical discussion. You are a doctor? Is that so? Because I think you are just a janitor in a clinic living off federal social assistance for political refugees. Can not be more. Your doctorship just diagnosed me with the condition of “mind cancer” in your previous comment. Wow. Could you tell me the WHO ICD of this disease. Because we have heard about brain cancer but the mind cancer is new. You are pathological liar. You claim to be a doctor but then the language and the nickname you are using here is so out of place that one gets amazed. Are you in a “facility” or some thing? Any imaginary friends too? Then comes your admittance that you are a “rat”. Studied in Iran on Iranian government funding without having any student debt. So you basically saying that you betrayed your own people and community who expected you to stay and serve them. Good for you, bad for them. They made a wrong choice when the government there allowed you to study in medical school. You claim you got the highest score in USMLE. Is that so? Because my knowledge tells me that USMLE scores are in percentiles and nobody usually claims to have got the highest score. Is that another lie of yours? I bet it is. You are trying to buy time in US using your propaganda.
IRGC is a state military organization which under UN rules has as much respect as US Army. There is no such thing as state run terrorist military in international law. Playing semantics here is not going to help you. If you insist of calling IRGC a terrorist organization then half of the world’s military are terrorists. IRGC as much of a terror as Russian Spetsnaz. So wrap it up on that one. And the huge oil reserves you talked about just earned each Iranian in the past year an average of 3 dollars per day. That is all the oil Iran sold last year divided by its population per day. Out of that 3 dollars, Iranian government pays 1.5 dollar per day directly to Iranians in cash. And with the rest of 1.5 dollars per day per person, the state has to provide everything to Iranian society from health care, education, infrastructure, security, future planning and investment etc. I say Iranian state is doing a wonderful job despite being under sanction. So the share of IRGC in Iran’s oil resources is actually very small considering the ground facts. Infact Iran’s military budget is very much smaller both in total and ration terms than US or its Arab neighbors. And if Iran has a large volunteer military force like Basij then it means that people still love the state and are ready to fight off an invasion. Nothing bad on that front. As for you trying to force me and people like Noam Chomsky out while people like you taking over US, well, I must remind you that US is not Gaza where you Zionists can make us refugees and take over the land. This is America. If any body is to be kicked out it is people like you who are working to destroy US. A so called Iranian who supports John Bolton and John McCain, the figures who sing “bomb bomb Iran”. So either you are not an Iranian or that you are a rat. Even majority of Americans have stopped supporting these two twisted minds. So your support for them clarifies your position with regard to real Americans. And Iranian government is here to stay. In fact in the past 6 years Iranian government power have increased exponential. They in now in control of Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and have got new friends like Turkey and Brazil. They are now moving into Bahrain etc. For the past 30 years people like were predicting the demise of Iran within one year. Nothing happened. For the past three decades your type of people were saying Iran is moving backwards and was doing bad economically while all international data available whether from western sources or from international institutes prove that Iran’s economy has only grown in the past 30 years and that Iran has progressed in education and science. Your lies have all been exposed. The war on terror is nothing but a self-inflicted wound. All the terrorists since 9/11 were wahabis funded by our ally the regime of Saudi Arabia. Not one was Iranian or funded by Iran. If anything Iran helped US marines to capture and kill some real terrorists in Afghanistan. But they stopped cooperating after Bush ruined the relationship with them. If we are to win the war on terror we need to have Iranian mullahs are on our side and not against us. Because Iranian mullahs are the only people capable of countering wahabis ideologically. And this was is an ideological one and not a military one. US made a mistake by supporting wahabis against Soviet Union and then against Iran in 1980’s and 1990’s. Now we are paying the price for that.
At the end I would say, the readers already have come to know you as a fascist who is promoting slavery here. You said the oil reserves of middle east should be controlled by west instead of by their own indigenous people. For your information this is not 17th century and the era of slave ships and colonialism has come to end. The oil belongs to people of middle east. This is how founding fathers would have put it. US was made on ashes of colonialism and imperialism, it is time for US to go back to its roots and eventually kick people like you out of this great nation.
Go to Iran —- Basij members are drafted from half way houses
they are just there for the benefits, like you they have sold their soul to evil
Thank you Dr. K R Bolton thoughtful article indeed! Iran’s regime is collapsing from inside and will hopefully (as Mr. Soros put it) fall in coming years (if not sooner!).
We need to support patriot figures like John Bolton and John McCain if we want to survive the war on terrorism.
Dajjal,
Hey you whose name means Anti-Christ in Arabic and claims to be running a voodoo clinic in US. Dr K R Bolton never said Iran is falling. Go and read the article and my responses to your delusions above. It is amazing to see you guys are trying to push your propaganda by twisting the article in front of the original writer. How pathetic you people can get. Soros is just a front for XXXXX and is not an authority to be referred to. He has had these kind of hallucinations before.
Soros now becoming prophetic and predicticting the future of Iran; oh save us God!
I watched Soros on CNN when he prononced those words to Fareed Zakaria on CNN. Any psychologist could easily detect on his face that he was pretending to say a fact but really stating his wish that he hismself was convinced that would not come true. to get that just watch that Fareed show and look at Soros’s face when he predicts that iranian regime would not be there in a year’s time
hey hussain go to phalastain and leave my bueatiful Iran and persian alone.
@JoeP
Amazing analysis.
@Dr. K R Bolton
Awesome article
Thanks for the complement!
To: JoeP – excellent analysis and discussion.
Thanks a million.
Thank you for your praise. And you are welcome a million times. Please help by spreading the truth.
May God hasten the arrival of Emam Al Mahdi and make us his followers.
Since the West has been killing one million civilians over the past ten years, why should we, Iranians, listen to your lectures on human rights? What can we possibly learn from your example?
hi to mr person. are you by any way has been watching the protest in my country Iran how your Basij brother are beating women and killing inocent persian students.
@Lemaitre
as was already pointed out, Iran is not Switzerland. Though Tehran North may look like Zurich, Iran development has just started (not in the last 30 years, but in the last century).
Unless you are China, every other fast growing player around the world, has had to pay the price in terms of national sovereignty and (political) independency.
It is not a matter of anti-imperialism. It is a matter of fact.
Islamic Iran has made aboundantly clear that these are not things it is ready to give up: cooperation, not subordination.
In that, IRI truly is unique around the world. Not only it does not bow, but it bravely faces its enemies that are both stronger and meaner, not with the madness of a kamikaze, but with the mastery of a consumed chess player. And the underdog always has its sympatizers.
If you truly are Iranian, I dare you to honestly answer to these points (in no particular order), by taking into account the whole Iranian society (one man, one soul, one vote, from Chabahar to Maku):
– the majority of Iranians are justice seeking and proud;
– the majority of Iranians are spiritual;
– the majority of Iranians are religious;
– the majority of Iranians care for their Revolution;
– the majority of Iranians voted for Ahmadinejad for President two times in a row.
Hence who does the bidding of the enemy to overthrow the will of the majority, really is a seditionist and a traitor to his nation.
And finally yes, so many Iranians look for a better life, but where in the world is it not so?
@Dajjal
Burn in hell
Finally I want to Thank Dr KR Bolton for writing this wonderful article which produced a very productive discussion exposing the true faces of certain elements here including the so called greens of Iran. Thanks once again.
Joe P you are just another mercenary of the Iranian dictatorship, shame on you
All your reply comments to me and your other comments are one liner, no-brainers. This says you are just a pathetic loser who can only engage people by attacking them personally and not on the merit of the discussion being held. Unfortunately for you, this place is full of people who are your opposite. So you have failed to prove anything beyond your moronic simpleton rants, while me and others on this discussion forum have solidly proven the reality on the ground.
mr joe who are kidding green movement is part of your doings.We true persian have no desire to be related to any one who were part of your arabic organization and arab culture. We want our Iran with our persian culture back.
It is unfortunate to see that some one sitting in a Western democracy would want to deny that same right to the people of Iran. Calling their grass root movement for freedom an element of the west and calling Ahmadinejad a messiah just indicates how much Dr. Bolton doesn’t know. I suggest that Dr. Bolton would also write an article on Ahmadinejad’s mercenaries (the Basij militia) so that the world can see what his Messiah does:
Arrest, Torture, Kill ……. Deny Iranians their most basic rights
Aki, Ahmadinejad won the election.
Jeremy,
Ahmadinejad may have won the election but the fact remains the regime certainly has not acted like it has. I have read Eric Brills well written analysis on the election and it did change some of my views. However it still has never answered the question of why the regime is not acting like it won. All their actions, deception, intimidation, mass arests, and blocking of the media suggests otherwise. The sad reality is we probably won’t ever truly know until the regime is ousted from power. The fact remains It’s a little hard to objectively gauge what really happened when only one side of the story is allowed to be openly aired that being the regime’s narrative.
Thx
Bill
Bill, how is a regime that legitimately wins an election supposed to act? That seems to me the only thing here that’s objectively hard to gauge. It’s not that he “may have” won. He did win. The evidence for this is overwhelming, and there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support the claims that he stole the election.
Jeremy,
Thank you for your reply. As I stated to Eric in my response to his article the fundamental flaw in his position is:
1) It is almost entirely predicated on regime data
2) Use of polls such as WOP from the Univ of Maryland that state they had an abnormal “no response” rate to key questions that brought into question the validity the findings
3) Put the burden of proof on the Green Movement despite the fact they are obviously being massively obstructed
In a court of law to fairly decide a case you must be able to freely gather and present the evidence. In this instance one side has only been able to present their case freely, the regime. Compounding the issue is the regime’s actions after the election. As I stated earlier it is hardly convincing for their case they won when they have arrested thousands with over 2,500 still incarcerated, over 100 journalists still in jail, almost no action on the over 100 dead, the rape cases completely buried, and the continued preemptive arrests of green movement activists. I liken the whole affair to a soccer match in which one team can field a team and the other not being able to. Everyone knows who will win that match and it is exactly what has occurred in Iran.
Yes the data “overwhelmingly” shows the regime won but it’s their data completely controlled by them. Any and all objections have been either obstructed our outright brutally repressed. I would think that along with overt repression would set some red flags off for you. The funny thing about this whole affair is the astounding irony of it all–these are not real democractic elections but in fact have been selections for years!! Now off to some fun reading—just got the latest Robert Jordan Wheel of Time book—woo hoo!!
Thx
Bill
1) Absolutely false. You obviously didn’t ever read Brill’s paper. Or, if you did, you didn’t bother to look at the footnotes. It is a well sourced paper.
2) Anyone can question the legitimacy of any public opinion survey. Nevertheless:
“The study sought to address the widely-discussed hypotheses that Ahmadinejad did not win the June 12 election and that the Iranian people perceive their government as illegitimate. It also sought to explore the assumption that the opposition represents a movement favoring a substantially different posture toward the United States. The analysis of the data found little evidence to support any of these hypotheses.” — http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/652.php?nid=&id=&pnt=652&lb=
The fact remains numerous surveys have supported the idea that Ahmadinejad won legitimately, and none of them support the opposite claim.
3) Well, Bill, burden of proof is burden of proof, and you can’t just switch it from one party to another on a whim, just because you don’t like it where it is. One can’t prove a negative. One can’t prove the election WASN’T stolen. Maybe you think it’s too bad, but if you’re going to claim the election was stolen, you’re going to have to present EVIDENCE to support your case.
I see you haven’t presented any.
Jeremy,
My bad I should have been more clear pertaining to “data.” What I meant to say is the election data is all sourced and controlled by the regime. As for the results my gut says yes it was stolen but as you accurately pointed it out that is not scientific by any stretch of the means. However, when you flip the coin I would hardly call the regime’s handling of the election as scientific proof of a victory. Simply put we just don’t know and frankly the regime will only let their narrative of the story be aired. Again to draw on the court proceeding analogy how can you declare one a victor when the other side is simply not allowed to freely pursue their case? Frankly I am surprised you can overlook the regimes actions and declaring “how is a regime supposed to act?” Well the winner by a landslide doesn’t need to kill 100, imprison thousands with a 100 plus journalists still behind bars, purge the universitites, block websites, make it a crime to talk to outside news agencies, and continually deny human rights guranteed under the Iranian constituion. Did you not notice the majority of the clerics sided with the people? What am I missing? Do you truly think this is some plan hatched in the bowels of the CIA or Mossad? I am at a loss how you can miss the actions of a regime that clearly contradicts what a winner should act like!
By the way I did read Eric’s paper and responded with a 8 page response I sent him via email.
Thx
Bill
Actually, Bill, the Mousavi-led opposition was given an opportunity to state their case and requested by the Election Council to present their evidence. They simply failed to produce any.
If you wish to continue to believe the election was stolen, be my guest, but recognize that is a belief that is entirely faith-based and contrary to the evidence. All indications are that Ahmadinejad won.
I have never “overlooked” the regime’s response to the protests. I was merely attempting to illustrate your fallacy. I mean, the syllogism you’re presenting of, “The regime cracked down on protestors, therefore the election was fraudulent” requires no response. It’s totally irrational.
If a majority of clerics sided with the majority of the people, as you say, then that means they stood by the election results.
Bill,
Let me teach you the first lesson of democracy. It is the rule by majority. If any minority for whatever reason such as their own illusions to foreign supported elements wants to bring down a majority elected government, that is called a coup. A democracy can not hand over its majority rule to the minority in a coup. Democracy has to protect itself, even if by force. Ahmadinejad should not and did not succumb to operation Ajax (2009). He stood his ground and he was right. Tell me one thing, if a minority (let’s Chinese supported elements) ever try to bring down a US government elected by majority of Americans and take to streets, burn public properties and buses, kill cops and try to dismantle the constitution of United States what should be the response of US government and its departments from FBI to CIA? Should they given in or should they obliterate the anarchists?
As for the story being one sided. You are right. The only thing that is being aired is the view of Zionist media. Iranian government narrative is continuously being ignored. Ah, I remember, US actually suppressed brutally any communist minority specially during the soviet times. Why should Iran be any different? Stop the hypocrisy and get realistic.
Joe P,
“Let me teach you the first lesson of democracy.” Got a laugh out of that one if you think the government in Iran is a true democracy. Democracy is defined as: “a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections.” The key words are “the people” and “free elections.” The fact the unlected Supreme Leader holds absolute power and the presedential elections have been selections for years completely obliterate any notion of Iran being a democracy. You further dug yourself a whole when you brought out the proverbial “Zionist media.” What is it with the fixation on the “Zionists” you know all 13 million of them that everyone thinks controls the world? Has it not dawned on the unrest in Iran was almost entirely homegrown and the fact it caught the rest of the world by surprise?
Unlike you I am not going to claim what you do know or don’t in a pedantic fit! I would only ask you to reconsider what a true liberal demcoarcy is and then compare it with 1) the structure of the governement, 2) their presidental election process, 3) todays actions of the regime after the election and 4) the fact the regime when they first came to power in 1979 lied saying they had no interest in power only to seize it which which resulted in the killings of thousands of the left..
Thx
Bill
Bill,
Again you have come with your racist self and high handed hypocrisy trying to spread your propaganda. But that is the only thing you can do, since your rational and logical capabilities are deficient for the job.
Supreme leader is indeed elected by an assembly which is directly elected by the people. Infact supreme leader election and its annual review is no more different than many parliamentary systems. Your propaganda here is astounding. And the power of supreme leader in Iran is much less than the power Queen holds in UK. As for the corporate zionist media, it is you who has dug himself in a hole. The majority of people around the world today believe the same media has lied about 9/11. That is the what people are saying. So according to democratic values, it is you who is in a hole, not me. In Iran 2009 unrest was as much home grown and surprising as it was in Iran 1953. So get the hell out of here with your one liner propaganda.
As for reconsideration:
1) Structure of government in Iran is as democratic as people in Iran believe it should be. In US no red Indians have ever become president. No communist or Hindus have reached to presidency. No nudist has ever the chance to become a president. That is called the structure of the government. Any candidate before even running for presidency, is vetted by over three dozen intel agencies in US. That is the structure of the government. Any candidate without corporate support has no chance to win even a primary, let alone becoming a president. In Iran instead of having three dozen intel agencies vetting candidates and a web of corporations selecting the future candidates, they have a defined system in the constitution for vetting the candidates using an assembly whose members are both directly and indirectly elected by the people. In Iran the most powerful executive office is that of presidency, and supreme leader is just a theological office of arbitration between different branches of government. If supreme leader as per your twisted propaganda is all in all then, why the hell people like you care so much for Iranian presidential election, and whoever is elected to that office. Hypocrites you are all.
2) Iranians directly elect their president. They can vote anywhere in the world on the election day. Votes are counted locally at every polling station and the result relayed to the center. Polling stations are staffed by volunteers most of them teachers or social workers. There are additionally press observers, government observers, observers of candidates as well as public present in each polling station. Votes are counted by the volunteers and the result is usually faxed to the center for total tally of the nation. Any discrepancy between the announced result of the center and the local poll result will result in automatic recount. There is no electoral college. It is only direct vote. Polling by different internationally reputable agencies including American ones have consistently proven that the election in Iran has been free, fair and the results tallying with people’s wishes. Furthermore, Iran has a very strict rules regarding advertisements during election. This can not be said about US election 2000. But occasional failure can happen in any system. It happened in 2000 US election. The funny thing was, Russia or Iran did not threaten to go to war with US just because the election had failed to represent the will of the people living in US.
3)Actions of the government was very lenient and completely justified. A minority of people supported by US intel agencies tried to bring down the government elected by majority of Iranians through a coup using street violence and lies. Iranian government arrested the planners of violence and put down the coup. If such a thing had happened in US where an election party were to be receiving support from Russian intel agencies and Russian satellites broadcasting 150 channels into US trying to foment violence on streets, rest assured US government will respond much more violently than they did in Los Angeles 1992. Iranians just defended their democracy. They can not be blamed for that.
4)Again another blatant lie by western media which is being repeated here by you. When a revolution happens it is done to take power away from the incumbent government and setting up a new system of governance. To say that the revolutionaries had said they did not want power, is an oxymoron which is repeated by people like you. If they had not been pushing for change in 1979, Iran still would be under a US supported dictatorship of Shah. As for thousands of deaths, again you are lying here trying to put all the fault with revolutionaries. Actually the blame lies with the CIA supported Shah who was not letting go and his cronies were putting up a fight to stop the uprisings. Just like American civil war and revolution which resulted in deaths of hundreds of thousands and the 1979 revolution of Iran with its thousands of deaths were dark hours out which new eras of light came out.
I have exposed your lies and propaganda here. I hope you change your ways.
Joe P,
“racist?” Well that was a classic Ad hominem if I have ever seen one. How have I been racist? Please parse out my words and tell me how? As for the rest of you’re diatribe you lost all credibility stating “And the power of supreme leader in Iran is much less than the power Queen holds in UK..” That one liner gave me quite a chuckle. You might want to have a look at the Iranian Constitution that states:
“Article 110
Following are the duties and powers of the Leadership:
1.Delineation of the general policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran after consultation with the Nation’s Exigency Council.
2.Supervision over the proper execution of the general policies of the system.
3.Issuing decrees for national referenda.
4.Assuming supreme command of the armed forces.
5.Declaration of war and peace, and the mobilization of the armed forces.
6.Appointment, dismissal, and acceptance of resignation of:
1.the fuqaha’ on the Guardian Council.
2.the supreme judicial authority of the country.
3.the head of the radio and television network of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
4.the chief of the joint staff.
5.the chief commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps.
6.the supreme commanders of the armed forces.
7.Resolving differences between the three wings of the armed forces and regulation of their relations.
8.Resolving the problems, which cannot be solved by conventional methods, through the Nation’s Exigency Council.
9.Signing the decree formalizing the election of the President of the Republic by the people. The suitability of candidates for the Presidency of the Republic, with respect to the qualifications specified in the Constitution, must be confirmed before elections take place by the Guardian Council;, and, in the case of the first term [of the Presidency], by the Leadership;
10.Dismissal of the’ President of the Republic, with due regard for the interests of the country, after the Supreme Court holds him guilty of the violation of his constitutional duties, or after a vote of the Islamic Consultative Assembly testifying to his incompetence on the basis of Article 89 of the Constitution.
11.Pardoning or reducing the sentences of convicts, within the framework of Islamic criteria, on a recommendation [to that effect] from the Head of judicial power. The Leader may delegate part of his duties and powers to another person.”
Further debunking your claim is the following regarding the President of Iran:
“Article 113
After the office of Leadership, the President is the highest official in the country. His is the responsibility for implementing the Constitution and acting as the head of the executive, except in matters directly concerned with (the office of) the Leadership”
Hmm both quite clearly state the Supreme Leader is the, well, Supreme Leader and the President reports to him. Key word is “Supreme” if that has not sunk in yet!! As for the rest of your response no need to continue further. You claim I am a racist and a liar with absolutely no evidence. As for me I am not going to claim either but just point out your arguement is not based on fact and thus largely invalid!
By the way my girlfirend is ten years removed from Tehran and we get reports from her relatives, all of whom live in Iran, when they can. While I am no expert by any means on Iran I would hazard a guess I have a greater working knowledge than most.
Thx
Bill
Bill,
Just like your lies, your ignorance is also huge and beyond belief.
Queen of England has to power to dismiss the parliament and effectively dismiss a government. Also Queen can declare war. She also can lay claim to any private and public property as per law. She is the head of the state, while prime minister is just the head of the government. Her powers are INHERITED. She can sack a prime minister, as well she can break treaties. As per law there are no free citizens in UK, there are only SUBJECTS of queen. Government officials take oath of loyalty to Queen. Laws are written and enforced in her name. Punishment in courts are given in her name. Technically she stands above the law as she is the embodiment of the law of land. She is the largest land owner in the world, owing all the lands in England and overseas territories. Things that so called supreme leader can never do. All these are in addition to the powers that “supreme leader” can exercise. By the way there is no such title as supreme leader in Iranian constitution. That is a mistranslation used by western media. The correct title is the leader of Islamic revolution. But obviously you are incapable of rational thought processes necessary to understand the truth here. Your racism that anything non-western must be undemocratic and against humanity is not lost here. People like you were justifying the slavery of humans in India and Africa and Americas etc using the same twisted lies you have put here. That is the worst kind of racism. Trying to justify your supremacy by lies. Abit of humility and shame would be the prescription you as part of your cure. Your constantly run away from evidence based logical arguments and come out quite shamelessly trying to impose your gut feeling over the evidence and truth. You have not provided a shred of evidence for your claims. The mere claim of yours that queen of England is less powerful that Iranian leader is laughable and enough to prove what kind of person you are. Your claims that Iranian government should have handed over power to the green coup supported by CIA, puts your position to context here. Iranian government defended the rule of majority and this had to be done whether in the process 100 or 1000 of those who were on the side of coup perpetrators had to be confronted due to their violence and ultimately killed on streets, because they were attacking police and trying to bring down the elected government just like the operation Ajax. Your girlfriend does not qualify as an objective proof of anything. So start over. The governments in west have killed more to establish their supremacy than any Iranian government. So your rationale that Iranian government killed 100 as per YOUR SAY, and therefore is illegitimate is an oxymoron since your racism stops you from taking the same position with regard to western governments. The good thing here is that most of the people whether in Iran and in western world already know these truths. Only afew irrational, illogical, half educated individuals still cling to the idea that west is pure and Iran is evil. The only thing evil here is your ignorance. Get rid of it.
hey joe. are you not the one who was carrying the suitcase full of cash to phalistine from your uncle mulla
George Bush won the election. Woo hoo.
See http://media.transparency.org/imaps/cpi2009/
Here is an objective view of how wonderful the world outside is. Note that Iran does not do too well.
– the majority of all people are justice seeking and proud;
– the majority of all people are spiritual;
– the majority of all peopleare religious;
– the majority of all people care for their Revolution;
– the majority of americans voted for Bush for President two times in a row.
Hitler was elected and loved. Putin was elected. …
I know many Iranian refugees who hate the current regime. But then whose anecdote counts more?
Consider this: if the iranian model was exported, would muslims in america be happier. Before you answer, consider that an export would mean that the American christian evangelical church would be the real power in the US.
Your post is quite confused and unintelligible. This is the only answer.
Well-said Aki! It’s useless to talk to Islamists. Unluckily their number is increasing in the US. It’s amazing they even talk about US benefit while obviously talking in favor of our arch-foe enemies. Iranian Shiite Mullahs are no better than Sunni Wahhabis. Mr. Tony Blair put it right when he divided the international terrorism between Sunni and Shiite Islamists. Haghani School in Iran is the mastermind of terrorist operations done by Shiite Islamists. And it’s definitely funded by Iran’s regime. Ayatollahs in Iran believe in no democracy whatsoever and even the world democracy was a taboo before presiden Khatami of Iran. Then the Mullahs hijacked the term and now use the twisted expression “Islamic Democracy” again and again on their propaganda which is mostly bought outside Iran. ppl like Joe P who are Muslims-in-peace by grace of western laic democracies have no care about the freedom of ppl in Iran and other religion stricken countries. They just want Islam take over more land when they’re enjoying non-Islamic freedom. Well it won’t be like this forever. Sooner or later all ppl find real democracy and ur beloved regime in Iran will be kicked off. Soros is maybe too hasty to say it happens in a year’s time but it won’t last long. Peace!
Ahmadinejad never won any election. It was a large-scale rigid election but to my surprise Ahmadinejad is too good for the green movement. If Mousavi were elected Iranian’s could not protest and Mousavi who is peaceful would help the Mullahs last longer for another 8 years (2 terms). But now Ahmadinejad has made the fall of Mullahs more possible than ever. I think he’s not even pro-Islam. Khamenei made his biggest blunder ever by backing Ahmadinejad. For now we should support Mousavi who is pro-Khomeini and pro-constitution but after the we toppled Mullahs we have to change stance and kick him off the business and found a secular democracy with a new laic constitution. That’s what our like-minded scholars like Jean Sharp are planning for IRan. Iranian ppl deserve to have a free life. ppl like Joe P cannot realize ppl need to have rights mentioned in UN’s first declaration of human rights but who gives a damn to feaks like him. Viva Iran Viva the US! :-)
ppl like Joe P
Dajjal (anti-Christ),
You are funny despite the name you have chosen for yourself. You failed to engage in a logical discussion above and now have come down here ranting. Islamist? What does that supposed to mean? First of all I am not an Islamist but if you believe that your ideology is superior and more logical then you should not run away. You are a coward who can only swear and hurl obscenities around with homophobic tones. That is what you are good at. All objective evidence here goes against you and your ideology. Your denial is not going to make things any better for you and your ilk. You traitors who try to bring your miseries from your home countries to US, have been exposed for what you are. No wonder you were thrown out of your countries in first place. They knew what you were. Your delusions as above completely unsupported by objective evidence and references are just that delusions. Now read my previous comments in which I exposed your lies and recognize it is time for you to see a good psychiatrist for your problems as long as the federal health assistance is available to you since once a true American government based on founding fathers dreams takes over, your time will come to an end. Believe do not feel safe even for one moment. Soon US will change for better, and when it happens you people will have no place in the new system. You people who care less for America’s dreams and more for your personal benefits back home. Americans could not care less if Iranians there want to live wearing Chador or Bikini or if they want to sell their oil or keep it for their future generation. There is no place for imperialism in American dream. War pushers like you working on Zxxxxxx agendas are not welcome anymore. You are not even an Iranian. I went through your comments. No one is so much full of hate for his/her roots. And Iranians all of them I know are very proud of their origin. You on the other hand were calling for Iranian oil to be controlled directly by US. And then you lied about yourself being a doctor… I can go on and on. But the point here is you are a desperate delusional anti-Iran, anti-America homophobic Zxxxxxx.